ram, that looks good man! Are you local??
homemade air intake?
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Looks like silicon/sealant around that opening? if and when that starts to break down it cant be good at all for the injection system.also you still have the air box in,a pod style setup would work better and the weight loss would be more beneficial.slp has a high flow kit for 52.99 that works good and gives 2hp gain.
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the sandman using silicone, i don't think so. plastic sealing ring with prefilter, push pins to hold it in place with foam around the bottom to insure a proper seal!!!! don't see how a pod set up is going to be of any more benefit than leaving the bottom of the air box in. i'm sure the pods weigh at least as much as the bottom half of the airbox does especially with a new intake to hold the pods. ran the slp high flow last year, this i think is a better set up. the slp high flow intake does nothing to increase your airflow, the most narrow part of the air system is the airhorn where the accordian hose hooks to. the slp intake is located before this opening, thier intake does nothing to increase the size of this opening, thus if the smallest opening is not increased it doesn't matter how much air flow you get to that point its still the smallest. increasing the airbox opening to 4 inches alone without the univents probably increases the smallest opening nearly 100%. just my opinion others may vary but they will be wrong
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colorado logger
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Ramrod, nice job on your intake. Your welding is better than cats. Im just wondering if you used a spool gun or tig. THANKS
I think your system looks good but working good I think not.Unless you have some type of cover over those filters you are going to be sucking warm air from under the hood.If you do put a cover over them you are going to be air starved because no air can get in unless you drill holes into bumper and ski wells and cover with a screen that lets air pass not moisture.
I would recommend going to Black Diamond and ordering a light weight cold airbox.$169.00 you can't beat the price and you get something that is proven to work.It comes complete with all the screens you need and is a true cold air system. Notice in pictures how the airbox is covered and pictures of bumper how it gets air through bumper. This is an excellent product that I will use on my next sled again.Just my opinion.
Cheers,
Dave
I would recommend going to Black Diamond and ordering a light weight cold airbox.$169.00 you can't beat the price and you get something that is proven to work.It comes complete with all the screens you need and is a true cold air system. Notice in pictures how the airbox is covered and pictures of bumper how it gets air through bumper. This is an excellent product that I will use on my next sled again.Just my opinion.
Cheers,
Dave
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Last year I ran my box a lot like yours.Before you put in those bulls eyes did you open up the inside of your air box? If you stick your hand inside you will feel on each side you will feel a small triangular hole which opens up the box.With putting the bulls eyes in you need to grinder or dremel into the box and carefully open it up to let it breath better.There is a line in side that you don't want to grind into as this is were they bonded box together.You don't want to weaken box by grinding into this. This really helps the mods that you have done work to full extent. Looks good though you are on right path.
Cheers,
Dave
Dog- yeah, I'm local where I live. I live in Kennewick.
Co Logger- I wish I could say I did that, but I actually had another sleddin' buddy help me with it. He used a Tig machine. We're diein to make more alum. stuff but don't know exactly what to do next.
Co Logger- I wish I could say I did that, but I actually had another sleddin' buddy help me with it. He used a Tig machine. We're diein to make more alum. stuff but don't know exactly what to do next.
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JHG
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I just wonder about the BDX setup sucking in air through the front like that. Does it not clog when pushing through deep powder? It looks like snow would just stick to the vents. I think the theory with the pod filters is similar to the theory being used by OVS and Twisted Turbos where they mount the intake low in the belly pan. They are saying that the hot air is going to rise so vent the hood well and the hot air will exit out the top of the hood while the cold dense air settles low in the belly pan. Just a thought.
It not only sucks air from front but has same holes and filters in ski wells.To top it off included in kit they supply four bulls eyes to install.Two go under front bumper and two go in ski wells up top.I have been out in over the hood powder and have had no issues.
Also having seen and rode a Twisted Turbo M8 there are no filters in the belly pan.There is a intake manifold that runs to the turbo and on the turbo there is a round basket type filter covered in a fine screen and directly in fron of the filter in the ski well Shain has installed a intake screen to feed the beast cold air.You can see clearly in pictures where this Twisted Turbo gets her air.
Cheers,
Dave
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JHG
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I guess the belly pan was the wrong phrase but I guess what I was saying is that he is not shielding the filter from underhood heat. The way I explained it (with hot air rising) was the way shain explained it to me when I asked him about why the filters were under the hood.
On Shains system right in front of the filter on the turbo in the ski well is a intake screen were this brute sucks from.You questioned will my BDX airbox plug up with all the screens yet say that the OVS or Twisted Turbo work but they have only one screen right in front of the turbo intake.In thery if the one and only screen in front of the turbo were to get clogged it would start sucking warm air from under the hood.Well I can assure you it doesn't because we have rode through deep powder and that Twisted Turbo never missed a beat.Also I said I had rode my sled in deep powder and also never clogged up .Only problem I had was side hilling on exhaust side on my sled in the deep and choked my exhaust which I hope to eliminate this weekend.
Just my opinion though.
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JHG
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I'm defiantly not trying to argue with you and say your setup doesn't work. You have tested it so you know, I don't know how the BDX setup works, I've never owned one. I have owned a timbersled w/ pod filters and never had a problem and was just wondering if the hot air rising was the theory that the designers were using. Again, shains has the vent in front of the intake BUT if it were to get clogged there is still cool air available under the hood b/c the hot air has risen out of the vents in the hood leaving the cold air near the bottom. It just looks...no facts here...that IF in some way the BDX vents were clogged, with the cover over the box there would be no air available for the intake but what you're saying is with all the vents there is no way for that to happen, so cool, good info that I didn't know. Just thoughts, I'm not trying to say anything doesn't work, I guess I was just trying say why I think the pod filters work, while asking a question about how well the BDX kit works. I've never even seen one so I have no clue where all the vents were located. Thanks for the info.
All I know is that sleds draw a LOT of air at WFO, so IMO, if you are pushing snow with slow ground speed using a BDX or similar intake, after a short time you will scavenge any air available under the hood which will be hotter than outside air.
I think the twisted set up or similar would be the lesser of 2 evils as the shock towers get less snow build up due to the A arms and skis shielding them.
I think the twisted set up or similar would be the lesser of 2 evils as the shock towers get less snow build up due to the A arms and skis shielding them.
I've seen pics on here where a guy built a shield that hung down a 1" or 2" lower than the OE flashing around the exhaust tip. Just a thought....
Timbersled makes a longer shield to rivit on.Apparently it is perferated to help it. I am going to order one as this sidehilling bog sucks.
Cheers,
Dave
I have bullseyes and many screen covered holes in the shock towers. I have also Put two 1" holes in the aluminum were the intake is and put an other frog skin there. This is also in back on top of you idler arm.
As far as sucking warm air going fast or slow it will always suck cold as it has a cover on top of box and with all the extra venting in bumper shock towers and under the intake.I have this season put on many a slow mile through the trees and played in meadows pushing powder with my hood no bog or hesitation.
Black Diamond sells nothing but good products for Arctic Cats. Everything they sell is top notch and proven.Factory race sleds come with a simular airboxes built by speedwerks.Seem to work for them.Just my opinion.
Cheers,
Dave
Heres an idea I came up with for powder, two approx 8in shorkels drawing cold air into the air box under the windshield. cut 2 tubes out of shop vac hose and drilled 2 holes behind speedometer and 2 in airbox snapped in hoses covered ends with pet screen
Thanks for posting the pics jared.
Was kind of dark when I took the pics but it looks like you can see them ok.
There is also an SLP flowrite on the backside of the box.
Was kind of dark when I took the pics but it looks like you can see them ok.
There is also an SLP flowrite on the backside of the box.
