If he's found not guilty I hope Reginald Denny stays in the basement.
George Zimmerman
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YES! But generally speaking you shouldnt start **** you cant finish.If you do I believe you have some responsibility for the outcome what ever that may be.
In the end self preservation takes over if your life is truley in danger
Clearly George Z. Doesn't have a problem finishing.
Oh, and you should tell the police officers and firemen who put their lives on the line every day that self preservation should prevail in these types of situations. After all, this guy is the neighborhood watch. He was doing his job to an over extending degree sure, but this is America where you have the freedom of speech to go up to whomever you want and you can talk to them. He has every right to be nasty, rude, or questioning but I'm pretty sure you don't have the right to knock a guys block off when he acts in said manor to you.
He shot an unarmed kid. 911 told him to stay in his car, he got out of his car and persuade the kid and then all of a sudden he was afraid for his life?
Stay in your car and drive away...
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What part of neighborhood watch do some of you not get?
"ooh, I see someone who looks like trouble, I better stay in my car & wet myself"
WTF?
So your telling me you don't think the neighborhood watch guy should be able to go up and talk to people? Just curious, what should they do?
Time for America to step up and show these thugs whose boss. Time to make our neighborhoods safe so even neighborhood watch guys can talk to people without getting beat the f@%! up!
haha man am I going to feel foolish if it turns out that Zimmerman actually did provoke this fight
oh...Zimmerman was looking for a situation to go down like this..kind of an initiation to pass to have him feel worthy of the shoes he needs to fill...Martin just in the wrong place at the right time..
still don;t see what the problem is though..lol..
still don;t see what the problem is though..lol..
He should have called 911 and stayed in his car like they told him to. Look at it from the kids point of view. Zimmerman's car was not labelled like say a police car would be. At this point it is some random guy who is more than likely not there to offer him a ride home. There was a crime problem there after all.
Zimmerman was a paranoid guy, he had called 911 something like 80 times prior in the last year. I wonder how many times he called 911 over some bs? Random person taking a walk.
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Zimmerman was a paranoid guy, he had called 911 something like 80 times prior in the last year. I wonder how many times he called 911 over some bs? Random person taking a walk.
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So what your saying is that as neighborhood watch he has demonstrated a history of calling the cops when there is something suspicious and not handling it himself. So most likely he did not go provoking trouble this time either.
I'm saying he calls 911 about everything and everyone.
It's not against the law to walk through your neighborhood. There's no reason to call the cops on someone for walking through the neighborhood.
Even so, he called 911 and didn't listen to them. What's the point? As a private citizen you have no legal rights to stop a other person and ask them what they are doing. Even a police officer doesn't have that right unless they have probable cause.
Remember this kid don't break ANY laws and he is now dead.
Even if he did punch Zimmerman, it appears that Zimmerman was the aggressor and the kid was defending himself.
Zimmerman didn't have a weapon on him, he had to go back to his vehicle for it. Meaning he was no longer in danger, he went back got his gun and basically hunted down Martin.
Neighborhood watch works great if properly organized. More than one person. Zimmerman was a one man "team".
He is a wannabe police officer that couldn't pass the psych evaluation to become a real one.
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It's not against the law to walk through your neighborhood. There's no reason to call the cops on someone for walking through the neighborhood.
Even so, he called 911 and didn't listen to them. What's the point? As a private citizen you have no legal rights to stop a other person and ask them what they are doing. Even a police officer doesn't have that right unless they have probable cause.
Remember this kid don't break ANY laws and he is now dead.
Even if he did punch Zimmerman, it appears that Zimmerman was the aggressor and the kid was defending himself.
Zimmerman didn't have a weapon on him, he had to go back to his vehicle for it. Meaning he was no longer in danger, he went back got his gun and basically hunted down Martin.
Neighborhood watch works great if properly organized. More than one person. Zimmerman was a one man "team".
He is a wannabe police officer that couldn't pass the psych evaluation to become a real one.
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The community was a private gated community. Zimmerman was chosen by the people of the community to be part of their neighborhood watch of private property. Martin did not live in the private community, so he was a suspicious person walking around the private community.
So he either had the gun on him or he did as the police said and returned to his car like you said. Which is it? You are contradicting yourself.
I guess it all depends on what exactly Zimmmerman said, and at what point did the kid start punching. I always thought he had the gun with him...
My guess is this was not an innocent kid walking home with a bag of skittles. He was walking through a secured neighborhood and appeared to be up to no good. Zimmerman calls 911 because the kid looked suspicious and was in a place he didn't belong. Zimmerman was told to stay in his vehicle but had no way to keep up with the kid if he stayed in his vehicle to wait for police. Chances are good had he stayed in his vehicle the kid would have never been seen again. Zimmerman gets his gun for protection and starts to follow the kid around waiting for police. The kid is a cocky teenager who already has a guilty conscience and decides he's going to take matters into his own hands and not let Zimmerman follow him around so he turns and confronts Zimmerman and starts a fight. At some point Zimmerman believes he's going to be seriously hurt or killed before police arrive so he pulls his gun and defends himself. Cops show up and game is over. This is totally a guess on my part and hopefully the court system will determine the real facts and punish accordingly.
I was in Zimmerman's shoes once...I had a very similar experience 20 years ago and saw a kid walking around at night looking suspicious. I called police but I chose to not pursue and stayed at my location until police arrived. Police never found him but put little effort into doing so because the only reason to believe something was up was that I thought the kid looked suspicious. The next day an elderly man and his wife were found beat nearly to death in their home less than a block from where I saw this kid. He was caught and I was able to identify him as the same kids I had called police about. He was convicted of attempted murder and robbery, served 15 years and is now a free man. Both victims are now dead, but I was told the wife never recovered from the beating and lived the rest of her life in severe pain. I don't think I did the wrong thing, but I have spend 20 years wondering if I had done more if I could have stopped this crime. I did have a weapon in my vehicle, but would have had no problem man handling this kid without it and maybe I should have done so???
I was in Zimmerman's shoes once...I had a very similar experience 20 years ago and saw a kid walking around at night looking suspicious. I called police but I chose to not pursue and stayed at my location until police arrived. Police never found him but put little effort into doing so because the only reason to believe something was up was that I thought the kid looked suspicious. The next day an elderly man and his wife were found beat nearly to death in their home less than a block from where I saw this kid. He was caught and I was able to identify him as the same kids I had called police about. He was convicted of attempted murder and robbery, served 15 years and is now a free man. Both victims are now dead, but I was told the wife never recovered from the beating and lived the rest of her life in severe pain. I don't think I did the wrong thing, but I have spend 20 years wondering if I had done more if I could have stopped this crime. I did have a weapon in my vehicle, but would have had no problem man handling this kid without it and maybe I should have done so???
a butterfly flaps its wings and tidal waves rock the coast on the other side of the world.....
who knows why things happen?
Maybe by following a kid and would be petty thief you caused him to duck into a yard to hide...causing a chance encounter with an elderly couple...resulting in the tragedy.
I'm not saying that is what happened....but hey....????
A secure neighborhood that he lived in.
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Zimmerman lived there. Martin did not. He was with his father visiting his fathers fiance. He did not live there, also known as a unknown suspicious person walking around at night.
Judge revokes bail for George Zimmerman in Trayvon Martin case. apparently he is a liar as well as murderer.
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...merman-in-trayvon-martin-case?lite/?GT1=43001
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...merman-in-trayvon-martin-case?lite/?GT1=43001
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