my question isn't to debate if the fix it kit is a good idea or not....in my mind, I've already decided I'd rather have the piece of mind that I did what I could until Polaris decides if there is an issue. My dealer and 4 year warranty aren't an issue. I know there won't be an issue regarding my warranty with installing the collar if it still breaks. Only issue will be getting the machine fixed as quickly as possible. My question is just that IF your going to buy a kit, wouldn't you want one with 2 collars? Last I checked, both sides are using the same glue. ???
FYI- Polaris Pro RMK Driveshaft fix by EdgeWorks.
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Warranty problem with collar?
What happens if you put this collar on and the shaft fails? If the collar leaves marks on the outside of the aluminum shaft and Polaris deems the shaft had an unauthorized modification, they could conceivably deny warranty.
What happens if you put this collar on and the shaft fails? If the collar leaves marks on the outside of the aluminum shaft and Polaris deems the shaft had an unauthorized modification, they could conceivably deny warranty.
deny warrenty for a shaft that will have a proven record for failing...they would not dare to even think of it..
I could not agree more. Reading through all this hatred the one thing I was just shaking my head at is the Warranty Denial Madness. The shafts that have failed did NOT have a "fix" and they still failed....so logic says shafts with a fix would NOT have failed b/c they have a fix...it's almost laughable to think Polaris, who's on the hotseat for a potential safety nightmare...would even think of going down that road.
My issue, like many on here...is that I would HATE to NOT do anything....have mine fail...and wonder if I could have avoided a failiure had I spent $100 +/-. I do agree any kind of fix, for rotational balance & symmetry at the very least, should offer two collars. Just my .02C
There is virtually ZERO twisting force exerted on the other end....I imagine that is why some are only recomending a collar only on the end that sees twisting force. 
It isn't the "glue"...it's the lack of material strength. I am fortunate to get to break things for a living....some things with cutting edge technology glues and bonding. The aluminum shaft is just too thin/weak for that small amount of contact area with the steel insert. Someone screwed up in engineering....I know....that sounds IMPOSSIBLE!!! LOL
It isn't the "glue"...it's the lack of material strength. I am fortunate to get to break things for a living....some things with cutting edge technology glues and bonding. The aluminum shaft is just too thin/weak for that small amount of contact area with the steel insert. Someone screwed up in engineering....I know....that sounds IMPOSSIBLE!!! LOL
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nuggetau
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There is virtually ZERO twisting force exerted on the other end....I imagine that is why some are only recomending a collar only on the end that sees twisting force.
It isn't the "glue"...it's the lack of material strength. I am fortunate to get to break things for a living....some things with cutting edge technology glues and bonding. The aluminum shaft is just too thin/weak for that small amount of contact area with the steel insert. Someone screwed up in engineering....I know....that sounds IMPOSSIBLE!!! LOL
We have seen 3 versions of a clamp as the "fix". Will we be seeing v4 from WB?
I want to see a 2 piece cnc clamp that encloses part of the steel shaft cap, that would eliminate the shaft wobble(loosening) that probably preciptates the aluminum extrusion to fail. All 3 of the current "fix it" makers say I'm wrong, all that is needed is the clamp.
The first person to make a cnc clamp that encloses at least part of the steel shaft(prevent wobble, loosening and seperation) will get my money.
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I will have nothing to do with the Poo driveshaft issue......except for this.....
Yet another failure.....someone sent it to me on my phone, not even sure who's sled it was.
Yet another failure.....someone sent it to me on my phone, not even sure who's sled it was.
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nuggetau
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The aluminum extrusion is strong enough, so long as there is never any off axis rotational force (wobble). Even a tiny wobble will quickly cause the bond to fail, that will quickly cause an off axis force(between shaft and extrusion) that will tear out the aluminum extrusion. Creating a wobble is incredibly easy when the contact area is only 5/8 of an inch!
That is why I say the only "fix" is something that will prevent any chance of any off axis force between the steel axle and the extrusion. Clamping around the extrusion is only half a solution.
The extrusion is not blown out or torn by rotational forces alone, but in combination with latteral forces causing a bind that ends up tearing out the end of the extrusion.
That is why I say the only "fix" is something that will prevent any chance of any off axis force between the steel axle and the extrusion. Clamping around the extrusion is only half a solution.
The extrusion is not blown out or torn by rotational forces alone, but in combination with latteral forces causing a bind that ends up tearing out the end of the extrusion.
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Ok....in sticking with the Polaris light weight, glued together sled theme, I will offer these as a temporary fix.....but they won't be cheap!! Cutting edge adhesives and organic materials that take YEARS to bond!!!
Tyson, I take it this is the symetrical redesigned model?? I just called Parkland and asked for you lol...then spoke to Chris at length...Nice Guy...I ordered two...
Just wanted to know if this design is what I would be getting?
I will have nothing to do with the Poo driveshaft issue......except for this.....
Yet another failure.....someone sent it to me on my phone, not even sure who's sled it was.
Ouch, looks like the drive shaft that failed on my 08 XP
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i think you fella's better call homeland Security....
it looks like the Taliban is putting pipe bombs in the Polaris axles...
it looks like the Taliban is putting pipe bombs in the Polaris axles...
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Tysonh
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yes thats the one
If I had a thin wall socket, and it failed trying to break a bolt loose... I'd try a thick wall socket.
But hey, I'm no inginear or nuthin... this kinda thing is MUCH more complex than most of us can wrap out tiny little brains around, right???
Some folks must just love breaking down in the middle of nowhere, maybe that adds to the fun of it? Myself, if I see a bunch of failures (and 14% is a BUNCH, as much as some folks want to deny it) I'd be looking at what I can do to minimize the risk of this happening to ME. For right now, this sure seems like the best answer till polaris comes up with a fix to me. Though, they still don't have a problem with their motors, they're just fine, why would this be any different?
But hey, I'm no inginear or nuthin... this kinda thing is MUCH more complex than most of us can wrap out tiny little brains around, right???
Some folks must just love breaking down in the middle of nowhere, maybe that adds to the fun of it? Myself, if I see a bunch of failures (and 14% is a BUNCH, as much as some folks want to deny it
) I'd be looking at what I can do to minimize the risk of this happening to ME. For right now, this sure seems like the best answer till polaris comes up with a fix to me. Though, they still don't have a problem with their motors, they're just fine, why would this be any different?