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Ecoboost ???

Go for the Ecoboost.

I just got mine Friday and I knew this pickup was going to be a hit. But remember it is just a half ton and all they are good for is hauling leaves to the dump or pulling only a small lawn tractor on a small trailer.:face-icon-small-win But if you have a 3\4 or 1 ton diesel you can pull a lot more and even exceed the GVWR and your totally fine. Don't even think about doing that with a lowly half ton or putting a sled deck on it or hooking up to a two place sled trailer because you will be a hazard on the road and have your man card pulled because you don't have a jacked up, dual stack, black smoke belching, big bad diesel.

Yes diesel pickups are more capable of towing and hauling big loads but a half ton gas pickup is more than capable of towing a four place enclosed snow machine trailer. According to the Ford manual that came with my pickup it is capable of a Gross Combined Weight Rating (GCWR) of 17,100 lbs and a Maximum Loaded Trailer Weight of 11,100 lbs. Properly equipped of coarse. Which requires the Max Trailer Tow package and Heavy Duty Payload package. Even without these packages they will handle 14,000 lb GCWR and a 8,000 lb trailer.

I do not have a enclosed trailer but I do have a heavy four place open trailer that is 3,100 lbs empty then add 2,400 lbs of RTR sleds and thats 5,500 lbs. Well under 11,100 lb MTWR. My pickup full of fuel and me in it is 6,700 lbs. Add four 200 lb men and 400 lbs of gear and I,m at 7,900 lbs plus 5,500 lb trailer weight is 13,400 lb Combined Vehicle Weight (CVW). 17,100 lb GCWR minus 13,400 lb CVW equals 3,700 lbs. That's not even exceeding 80% of the rated GCWR which I'm sure Ford has already de-rated for safety any how. I do not know the weight of a loaded four place enclosed but it may put you close to the 17,100 lb GCWR. If so Ford says it can be done.

I agree that a heavier 3\4 or 1 ton pickup will do the job of pulling a enclosed loaded sled trailer with a strong cross wind on slick roads will feel more solid. That's one of the advantages of the 3,000 lbs advantage they have. Another advantage is 5 mpg better towing. The diesel is cheaper to tow with I know, but a half ton gasser will do it also. I've been doing it against my diesel driving buddy's for years. I'll be doing it better now that I have a Ecoboost.:face-icon-small-hap

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I would be scared to drive one of those at 17k. It would be a wormy turd.

Way back in the day I worked for a construction company that had regular cab 3/4 ton Chevs, 91-97 years. At 16k (the max GCW) you could see the curvature of the frame in the body lines, they would lock up the tires really easily and would barely get out of their own way.

I know trucks have come a long ways but that is alot of weight for a half ton pickup.
 
Dont be scared

I would be scared to drive one of those at 17k. It would be a wormy turd.


Way back in the day I worked for a construction company that had regular cab 3/4 ton Chevs, 91-97 years. At 16k (the max GCW) you could see the curvature of the frame in the body lines, they would lock up the tires really easily and would barely get out of their own way.

I know trucks have come a long ways but that is alot of weight for a half ton pickup.


With a properly loaded trailer, correct tongue weight and good working trailer brakes I think you would be surprised.
 
They look to be a great truck but the mileage isn't as impressive as some make them out to be. Those who drive them 80 MPH are getting 15 mpg, a Ram 3/4 ton Hemi will get 14.5 at 80 MPH. Those who tow 3,500 to 4,000 lbs at 80 will see 11 MPG, for comparison a Ram 5.7 will get you 10.5 MPG. If you compare pricing you'll be real lucky to get into an eco-boost for less than $44,000 which is $10,000 to $15,000 more than Ram. I don't see what all the hoopla is about, smooth cushy half ton ride is nice though.
 
Mines a 12' Crew cab XLT 4x4 and I only paid $32000. Not fully loaded of course but much cheaper than $44000 and it pulls better than any gas truck I have driven. I also have a 06' dodge 3500 so I know how diesels pull.
 
I will agree that it will get over the GVW pretty quick. That really only matters if you get stopped :face-icon-small-hap I think an Ecoboost with load range E tires and a set of airbags would drive just fine with a sled deck. But a 3/4 or 1 ton will always give you more confidence with that much weight on there. Why won't Ford let us have a Ecoboost in the 250 and 350 as a gas option? That would be a really nice truck!!!

I sure wish it would happen,the Super Duty is the only truck left on the market that has enough headroom for me.
 
I had a 3/4 ton hemi. It was a nice truck but the mpg sucked, never saw more than 13 mpg empty(on the average). Just drove 240, round trip, miles yesterday in my 11 EB and got 24.4 MPG round trip with a 2500 foot rise in elevation and one major summit to go over. Didnt even come close to $44,000 for the truck. $32,600 for a 4x4 crew cab xlt nicely equipped with the tow max package.
 
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Totally agree with Adreniline addict!!
I would roll with the 3/4 Hemi the new hemi, it's proven the eco is not.
Love my 12 Ram!
 
Well I finally did it, I know I know 6 months later! I pulled the trigger on a 12' fx4 luxury supercrew with the Eco last week. After test driving a couple and talking to many with them I decided to go with the Eco over the v-8. So far I'm overly impressed to say the least! I picked it up and two days later took off on a hunting trip out west, covered over 3000 miles in a week, going from northern mn. to Wyoming, Montana and back. I wasn't pulling anything, but did have about 800+ in the back plus three guys, we averaged 18.2 for the trip with a best tank at 19.7 and worst at 17.2 mpg. It has great power, never downshifts on any grade, actually even accelerates in overdrive up any grade. It's quiet, rides nice, has even more interior room than my 05 supercrew. So far I'm very pleased!!! Oh btw it hauls *** empty!!!
 
I came from an 07 tundra that was not shy on power. Had full intention of purchasing another but somebody told me to test drive the ford. Overall I'm very impressed. You can really tell it was designed better for towing. Lots of torque and never hunting for gears. My first ford and I've been very happy.
 
prices?

I also am leaning toward an ecoboost, had been thinking a diesel would be the best way to go for hauling or pulling sleds but after hearing about the ecoboost on here I'm changing my mind. I'm working in a small town in AK right now and can only search the internet, what are you guys seeing for availability and price? On a side note I would not hesitate to put a deck on it after having been on a trip from N.Idaho to revelstoke in my friends 1/2 ton crew with 2 on the back and 3 on an open trailer 5 guys and gears, bad mpg but the truck did ok. It did have air bags.
 
I sure wish it would happen,the Super Duty is the only truck left on the market that has enough headroom for me.

^X2 the interior room is nicer in the Super Dutys. I want an ecoboost but don't want the payments. I got an 08 Super Duty with the Diesel now.
 
I have an '11 Eco Boost and my dad a '12 F250 6.7 Diesel. The Eco Boost pulls like the diesel - period. As long as you are within the rating limits.
But if your wanting to tow max weight all the time then buy the frame and suspension you need, that would be a 3/4 ton.

The Eco Boost simply runs out of suspension before it runs out of power.
 
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