DIY Watercraft thread

[MOB]

Anybody who have W/C fitted Slp/Jawspipes for gen2/edge for sale??
Pm me.

Will have a completely fresh Ruth 1050 with SLP's in a mod'd KK chassis for sale soon...runner, 4Z has ridden it many times...ask his opinion...

Couple programmable XCR 800 ignitions with custom maps
Couple Ultra ignitions
1200PSI Billet flywheel hub
Avid's
2.5 162 camo Extreme
Rider Forward Post (handles like an M-sled)
Custom Chromo hoop (Fastrax)
New crank
honed/renic'd cylinders
Spare Ruth ported to match jug
4 spare domes
fuel manifold with 2 highflow pumps
Boss Flattop
Snow Eliminator boards
lots of other stuff...

 

[1200xcsp]

hey guys I may be selling my crankshops for a gen 2 1200. npp fitted, and a set of lectron 44mm carbs. U guys get dibs. pm me!

how much for the lectrons? i might be interested. thanks

 

[mattymac]

Will have a completely fresh Ruth 1050 with SLP's in a mod'd KK chassis for sale soon...runner, 4Z has ridden it many times...ask his opinion...

Couple programmable XCR 800 ignitions with custom maps
Couple Ultra ignitions
1200PSI Billet flywheel hub
Avid's
2.5 162 camo Extreme
Rider Forward Post (handles like an M-sled)
Custom Chromo hoop (Fastrax)
New crank
honed/renic'd cylinders
Spare Ruth ported to match jug
4 spare domes
fuel manifold with 2 highflow pumps
Boss Flattop
Snow Eliminator boards
lots of other stuff...

How did you get the WC mounted in the cat bulkhead??? Who made the plate/mount?? Been looking for one.

 

[MOB]

How did you get the WC mounted in the cat bulkhead??? Who made the plate/mount?? Been looking for one.

You could use one of Brad's plates, I had a blank that was already bent locally, just cut it to fit.

Mounted by machining roundstock to interleave with bulkhead slots, anchor bolts through bulkhead, roundstock 'spacers' dropped over bolts and used smash/sandwhich type Polaris mounts on the plate (Ultra I believe?).

Spacers match diameter of Polaris motor mounts, could even be a bit larger - not critical.

 

[MOB]

how much for the lectrons? i might be interested. thanks

Lectron 44mm with 5-3 metering rods and 5-2's as well, would sell turnkey sled for $8.5k this spring....don't have replacement carbs (rack won't work with steering mod) otherwise would sell Lectrons.

$8.5k is a VERY good number on this sled, but goes along way between here and fall...

 

[powdersledder]

Anyone ever thought of running oil injection on one of these? I've been toying around with this idea and I may have found a way to mount 2 older style mikuni pumps with the 650 style water pump. One hooked up to the 3 carbs, the other to fittings in the case. But I'm just worried about making sure the inner bearings have enough oil. Seeing as i don't yet have one of these cases does anyone else know if there is enough room in between the cylinders to add oil fittings over the bearings?

 

[rocket]

I'm mulling over the oil pump thing myself. Looking at it a little different than you, though. The big block twins don't have bearing oilers except on the MAG and PTO end bearings, so my thought is not to worry about the inner bearings on the crank. The end bearings could be done just the same as a "factory" big block. The '97/'98 big blocks had an oil pump with 2 bearing oiler lines and one line that dumped oil into the fuel pump. Oil for the cylinders gets delivered through the fuel - basically like pre-mix. Haven't decided on what to do with mounting a pump, though. I'm not sure I have room in the chassis for a twin-style water pump. If I do, mounting a pump is easy, just have to figure out the ignition. Again, I'm just getting started and am a ways from sorting out the details. Oil injection is a "luxury item", not my first priority - lots of stuff to deal with before I get to that.

 

[euge]

"I'm not sure I have room in the chassis for a twin-style water pump."
What chassis/bulkhead? I have a twin style waterpump etc. on my 1200 fits fine in a wedage and a gen 2 minor notching

 

[johnsodo]

i got a twin style watter pump in my edge

 

[Snowstar]

By the time you get the third carb and pipe in there I wouldnt think theres alot of room for an oil tank. Another "luxury" that needs to get figured out is electronic reverse.

 

[powdersledder]

Reverse isn't that big of a deal for me, if I really wanted it I'd just add the extra weight of the mechanical reverse instead of trying to set it up with PERC and a team secondary. As for the oil, from what I've read I think I'll feel safer with the 650 style water pump with the wide belt. Probably end up using a PA mag housing and then modifying it so that I can run another belt or gear to run the the oil pump, which I think I could mount next to the water pump, but closer to the gas tank.

I didn't even think about how the BB twins don't have an oil line going to the center bearing, maybe it would be possible just to do the carbs and the MAG/PTO bearings? Which would mean only 5 lines which could all be run off one pump.

 

[HIGHMARK]

By the time you get the third carb and pipe in there I wouldnt think theres alot of room for an oil tank. Another "luxury" that needs to get figured out is electronic reverse.

I guess that would depend on the chassis. All the factory triples I know of came stock with oil injection. Then again, that was before everything was Edge or IQ chassis.

 

[Hillboy]

Yep reverse would be really cool.

 

[Hillboy]

Almost ready to pull the cord

So the class got the rails cut and the suspension in yesterday for the 1200. All we have left right now before pulling the cord is some hose routing and some wiring.
Here is my question I have a what looks like a sensor plug that comes out of the cdi my guess is that it is for water temp but I have replaced the head with a PSI dial a dome and have no sensorcan I elminate it unlike the newer ones that pull timing because that is the next phase wiring in the 4 window digitron.

We did pull the pig over and holy frikken cow I can barely get it to turn over I think I will turn the dial a dome down.

 

[Snowstar]

What ignition are you running? I wouldnt be to stuck on those POS dial-a-domes. There a gimick if anything, leak if you adjust them much. Im sure Brad would love another PSI bash post.

 

[Hillboy]

Looks like an xcr ignition, as for the heads they were a very good price and I just had watercraft covers and rails so I figure I will get it set right and leave it I do not have a spare 600 laying around for a new head heck on doing this on less than a teachers salary

Some pics
http://picasaweb.google.com/hillbill1/PicsEscape1200Wiring

 

[Snowjunky]

Way too slow Brad. On my Dial-a-sh&%%ts I have more compression in the hood compartment than the cylinder. From bottomed out to full rise was (and there is a reason I say was) was only 5 lbs on one side and 8 on the other. I went with Brads full setup for my wc motor. The etching brings a very nice cosmetic appeal but what I was really impressed with was the fit of all the pieces. Another thing is his desire for my product to work. You dont get that much anymore.

 

[rocket]

I've got an '02 Pro-X race chassis. I'll have to remove a pretty good size chunk from one side of the bulkhead to even set the motor in place. After that, it might be the belly pan that gets in my way with a twin water pump housing. Can't just raise the motor until everything clears because the shock tower brace will get in the way of the exhaust. I'll admit I'm very fussy about how this gets done and how everything looks and fits when its done, so I'm moving a step at a time. Got a motor plate on the way from Brad, so my first step will be to get the case set into the chassis, see where the bulkhead needs cut, see if rack carbs will clear the steering post and look at my options for the water pump. This will be interesting.....

 

[Hardass]

My set up

Well i did one of these 1200s and love mine. I ride from 4200-6000 feet polaris primary with the black green spring, team secondary with the black white, 70 gram weights. rack mounted 40s unbored Mag 350,360,360, 03 needles, 55 pilots runs at 8550 after the pipes are warmed up. This is the first motor i've had that you could really see the difference in pipe temp. a cooler pipe will run about 8000 rpm but once warmed sticks at 8500.Holding the motor in place is paramount(did i use that right) i weigh 215 pounds In any snow that has any kind of firmness at all it rips and can be thrown around easily. Oh it;s in an edge chassis which has been reinforced on the outsides of the bulk head.Just thought i would share.

 

[mattymac]

I've got an '02 Pro-X race chassis. I'll have to remove a pretty good size chunk from one side of the bulkhead to even set the motor in place. After that, it might be the belly pan that gets in my way with a twin water pump housing. Can't just raise the motor until everything clears because the shock tower brace will get in the way of the exhaust. I'll admit I'm very fussy about how this gets done and how everything looks and fits when its done, so I'm moving a step at a time. Got a motor plate on the way from Brad, so my first step will be to get the case set into the chassis, see where the bulkhead needs cut, see if rack carbs will clear the steering post and look at my options for the water pump. This will be interesting.....

Yeah you have to remove a good amount of material to get even the billet mag housing to fit in a prox. I dont even know about a twin style setup! Alot more to take out plus that little waterpump belt sucks! My advice is to get a billet mag housing from brad and be done with it. It took about 4 or 5 diffrent test fits to get the bulkhead on mine just right. I have about a half an inch around the mag housing to the bulkhead. After I cut it I used some flat aluminum plate to "T" or gusset the cut to help strengthen it back up, it looks really good. If your running rack carbs you will need to move them back just take the forward spacer out of the steering post/hoop if your chassis has it.