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Diesel nears the $5.00 dollar mark and most likely a way of life

.....My 440 powered 78 Dodge truck, no payment, will get fed. As will the motor home and sleds. Happy Earth day.:face-icon-small-coo

LMAO - till the EPA measures your exhaust emissions and fuel is $35/gallon and your fuel bill is more than someone else's Smart car payment for the month.

Dogmeat - the "poor oil company" band wagon about only making a 9.2% profit?.......MattyMac is right, there is so much going on that we don't see. Being involved directly with the oil industry in Alberta, I can tell you that for certain. My wife is on the regulatory side, I work in the consulting side, all my clients are oilfield companies. Things like liability reduction, royalities, bonuses and payouts, etc, are so much more than meets the eye.

Profitability in the oil industry is not about oil, its about money management. So long as they manage the numbers right, they can report to you what they want. Its legal, but they are also giving people 120% bonuses of their base salary. My neighbour just went and paid cash for a new truck with his share payout (his company was just bought - no one gets fired and they all get cheques).
 
it amazes me that we can put men on the moon, clone cells, and support illegal aliens by the thousands, BUT we cannot produce a cheap, powerful alternative fuel for our toys and trucks????

someone is holding out on us BIG TIME!!

WTF?? The BEST cheap, powerful fuel is OIL.....just stop the insanity....WE need someone with a set of balls to tell the envirmentals to PISS OFF and the USA needs to be energy independant....

Supporting the ARABs has done nothing but give third world countries and religions money and power to FORCE issues/death onto the rest of the world....

As for OIL available to the USA....

North Dakota...

Alaska.....

off shore Gulf....

off shore California...

Texas...

on and on and on....

drill/refine and tell OPEC to piss off....BJ

BTW- I'm OLD enough to remember liberal DEMs scaring everyone in the 1970's ..."IN 20 years there will be no oil"......hmmm that was WRONG

Todays version...."Global Warming will....bla bla bla" Al Gore is a Dumb a$$...there is NO proof that MAN-MADE global warming exsists...

Global temps are effected by 3 things...and this is in order of importance...as in 95-96% percent important...

1) the SUN
2) the OCEAN
3) the CLOUDS


I love this new one....Lets FORCE mercury filled light bulbs onto the masses because Al Gore says so...but if 1 envirmental finds 1 spec of MERCURY in a stream somewere its a dam catastrophy....can you say INSANITY??

The only energy source that is NOT subsidized is OIL...the rest is pure political pandering BS...

E-85 = 7 gallons of water, 4 gallons of oil. FOOD and $$ from the gov. to make....anyone see a problem here???
 
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Filled the truck up yesterday. $142.00 worth of diesel. No question that is going to reduce my riding, especially to the mainland. Throw in the $65.00 each way ferry ride and a day trip to Pemberton is just getting to expensive. Will be heading to McBride for a 3 day ride with friends from PG and it's going be a G note by the time I get back home. Sledding is defineately starting to raise some eyebrows in my household!
High fuel prices fit right into the Greenies plans of reducing consumption, and with the Govt. on the green bandwagon I wouldn't expect much lower fuel prices, even if oil prices went down.
I drive a 91 Chevy Turbo Sprint everywhere I don't need the truck. It's ugly, not very cool but cost me $500.00 and just broke the $30.00 mark to fill up. You just have to park in the far corner of Wal-Mart parking lots so you're not recognized.:D
 
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the only thing that i am really concerned with drilling in anwar is that the oil co told us that if we opened up all the oil in alaska then we will be energy independent forever and that hasn't happened. it is like going to the table with two liars. i just wonder which one to believe less.
 
LMAO - till the EPA measures your exhaust emissions and fuel is $35/gallon and your fuel bill is more than someone else's Smart car payment for the month.

Dogmeat - the "poor oil company" band wagon about only making a 9.2% profit?.......MattyMac is right, there is so much going on that we don't see. Being involved directly with the oil industry in Alberta, I can tell you that for certain. My wife is on the regulatory side, I work in the consulting side, all my clients are oilfield companies. Things like liability reduction, royalities, bonuses and payouts, etc, are so much more than meets the eye.

Profitability in the oil industry is not about oil, its about money management. So long as they manage the numbers right, they can report to you what they want. Its legal, but they are also giving people 120% bonuses of their base salary. My neighbour just went and paid cash for a new truck with his share payout (his company was just bought - no one gets fired and they all get cheques).


Must be different up north or something, because all my bonus money I've gotten has been taxed heavily ...
 
Todays version...."Global Warming will....bla bla bla" Al Gore is a Dumb a$$...there is NO proof that MAN-MADE global warming exsists...



The only energy source that is NOT subsidized is OIL...the rest is pure political pandering BS...

E-85 = 7 gallons of water, 4 gallons of oil. FOOD and $$ from the gov. to make....anyone see a problem here???

Gore - agreed

E-85 is garbage. Using corn oil to produce gasahol is a waste. I identified the oil yields - copied below
individual numbers vary slightly depending on source, but the you'll get the general idea

CROP .................... Oil Yield (gallons/acre)

corn ...................... 18
Cotton ................... 35
Soybean ................. 48
Mustard Seed .......... 61
Sunflower ............... 102
Rapeseed (canola) ... 127
Jatropha ................ 202
Oil Palm ................. 635
Algae ................. 10,000+


Algae oil is long term project, which I feel scares the hell out OPEC. Short term you're right, drill more local oil and gas
 
Gore - agreed

E-85 is garbage. Using corn oil to produce gasahol is a waste. I identified the oil yields - copied below
individual numbers vary slightly depending on source, but the you'll get the general idea

CROP .................... Oil Yield (gallons/acre)

corn ...................... 18
Cotton ................... 35
Soybean ................. 48
Mustard Seed .......... 61
Sunflower ............... 102
Rapeseed (canola) ... 127
Jatropha ................ 202
Oil Palm ................. 635
Algae ................. 10,000+


Algae oil is long term project, which I feel scares the hell out OPEC. Short term you're right, drill more local oil and gas

I have talked with you about the above a couple of times. The thing that gets me is that the available acreage for the plants is much, much larger than the available acreage for algae (I am assuming lakes, ponds and such?). It seems like it has a much larger oil/acreage ratio, yet the total acreage is less then the others?

Just some thoughts.
 
:mad:the greenies got everything nailed down,anyone that trys to drill they sue them til they give up, had some really good wells and a plant that i took care of on the front, (blackleaf) they made them shut the valve and won't let them produce any of it, and thats not the only place thats happened, got the product but won't let em produce it:mad::mad:
 
Every dollar you spend at Walmart on Chinese junk is a dollar that they have to compete with us for raw materials. As their demand increases our prices rise, no big mystery there. Buy American and you rob them of their ammunition and power. In short the blame lies with us. Personally, I quit buying bottled water and $5 capichinos. My 440 powered 78 Dodge truck, no payment, will get fed. As will the motor home and sleds. Happy Earth day.:face-icon-small-coo

Everything we buy that is made over sea's helps to increase fuel prices.
 
Oil closed even higher today at $120. per barrel. That's 2.25 million more than yestrday, and it didn't cost anymore to get it today than it did yesterday. It didn't cost anymore yesterday than it cost five years ago when gasoline was $1.95 per gallon.

Well stated Whit.[/QUOTE]

The dollar is at a 15 year low against major world currencies so oil traded in US dollars and will go higher as the dollar keeps falling.
Too many loose years of spending and a huge trade deficit will keep the dollar droping and oil going up end of story.
This whole dollar/commodity thing is going to cripple the mighty US and there isn't a dam thing we can do about it. THE PARTY IS OVER!!!! and we are going to have to clean this mess up and try start a new one in about 5 years.
It was a pretty great 50 or so years except for parts of the 70's and
early 80's.
 
:mad:the greenies got everything nailed down,anyone that trys to drill they sue them til they give up, had some really good wells and a plant that i took care of on the front, (blackleaf) they made them shut the valve and won't let them produce any of it, and thats not the only place thats happened, got the product but won't let em produce it:mad::mad:


yup thats what kinda crap goes on. i say they drill the piss outa the blackleaf! and the res of the front! dam greenies!
 
I can't believe some people are still buying the republican propaganda. I guess the old saying holds true: There is a sucker born every minute.

Nothing is stopping Gore from presenting his all knowing ideas. You don't need to be prez, just a good business man. If his ideas are that great let him make a few bucks too. So far all I hear are what's wrong, have him tell us how to fix it. Like most polititions, all talk and no solutions let me do a study on that and after a few million $$ then I'll tell you we are working on it. BS
 
I have talked with you about the above a couple of times. The thing that gets me is that the available acreage for the plants is much, much larger than the available acreage for algae (I am assuming lakes, ponds and such?). It seems like it has a much larger oil/acreage ratio, yet the total acreage is less then the others?

Just some thoughts.


The ethanol from algae that is being tested right now uses several tanks built on land. That high of a number comes from the fact that you can make these tanks three dimensional; not just a two dimensional body of water. Compare this to a pack of 20 oz water bottles. Because sunlight is able to get to a much larger surface area of water, more algae is going to be able to grow.

I am 100% against ethanol that is produced from crops. As a rancher, the cost of everthing has gone up the past few years but the increasing price of corn has kept the cattle price from increasing enough to keep up with costs. All the ethonal companies are getting financial help from the government to make ethanol work - but they fail to realize how much its hurting the price of food in the US. On top of that, grain is one of the things we can export to other countries, but instead we are using this "great science" to turn 1 gallon of petroleum into 1.4gallons of ethonal.

Grain should be used for two things, to eat and to drink!:beer;
 
I am 100% against ethanol that is produced from crops. As a rancher, the cost of everthing has gone up the past few years but the increasing price of corn has kept the cattle price from increasing enough to keep up with costs. All the ethonal companies are getting financial help from the government to make ethanol work - but they fail to realize how much its hurting the price of food in the US. On top of that, grain is one of the things we can export to other countries, but instead we are using this "great science" to turn 1 gallon of petroleum into 1.4gallons of ethonal.

Grain should be used for two things, to eat and to drink!:beer;


I totally agree, its robbing peter to pay paul... STUPID!!!!!!!!!


hydrogen is a good idea but it still uses up a natural resource, we just have alot of it but also use alot of it as well. Someday water will probably be the death of mankind
 
yup thats what kinda crap goes on. i say they drill the piss outa the blackleaf! and the res of the front! dam greenies!

there is already wells in the blackleaf, 6 and 4 are good wells, flowed over 1 million mcf per day and some ng liquids, everthing still there, wells were drilled in the 60's and produced up til that gloria flora dyke made em shut the vavle:mad:
 
I guess the way I look at it is, everyone that lives in the rural areas of the Rocky Mountains deserves the opportunity to work hard and get paid well for it.....I absolutley loathe the fact that tens of thousands of oilfield workers in this part of the country fall victim to the political football game that is the rocky mountain oilfield.

Apparenty, all anyone out here deserves to do in life according to some people in washington is flip burgers for tourists ....

I guess the way I see it is, for those of us who work int he patch around here, if we gotta pay a higher price for gas and diesel ... it's worth it to us to keep our good paying jobs because we have a better quality of life from it.

That's really why I get so pissed off when people start *****ing about the "evil oil comapanies" ... I think they do a hell of a lot more good than bad.


Dogmeat, I understand your willingness to defend the so-called "evil oil companies" as they provide you with what is most likely a comfortable living. But you really must give your head a good shake...please don't take offence.

You stated that Exxon Mobil's FY2007 net profit was 9.2 percent....just so you know that works out to 40.6 BILLION DOLLARS, and thats after padding the wallets of the big wigs. Tillerson is making over $20 million a year and Raymond was making the same before he retired with, get this, a $400 million dollar retirement package.

Is this really necessary? Of course not. We are all being f****d over. You included Dogmeat. You would more than likely be paid close to the same wage whether oil is $120 or $80 dollars a barrel. You perform a job that most people cannot or do not what to do and that is worth a top wage.

Don't worry about the oil companies too much, they'll continue to do just fine without your defense. And besides, do you think they worry about you just the same?
 
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