Cops to serious?? story included

[Skinner]

Cops to serious?? story... 08-21-2008 04:18 PM your history lesson is a little off from the truth

Cops to serious?? story... 08-21-2008 04:14 PM too bad you got your history wrong! I guess in your mind, if you say it, it must be true..... look up the facts, and you'll find actual events a little different than you claim

Apparently I touched a few nerves with my last post, as these were comments with my negative red rep. I am assuming that these comments came from LDS members. I am in no way putting the LDS faith down, I am a firm believer in our Constitutional right to Freedom Of Religion. On the other hand, I will debate you until the end of time of what I posted is true and correct. So if you two nameless subjects would like to debate this further, please send me a PM.

Some people take this to serious. If I have a problem with your post I will talk to you up front not anonymous. That’s chicken $hit. Here have a Beer
I know i will have one!

 

[Snow Fox]

Some people take this to serious. If I have a problem with your post I will talk to you up front not anonymous. That’s chicken $hit. Here have a Beer
I know i will have one!

Thanks Skinner, thanks to rasp112 as well..........

 

[Weekday Warrior]

So let me get this straight........you are a mormon kid that is getting ready to go on his mission. You and others like to pick on fundementalist mormons that still practice polygamy. If your family has been practicing the mormon religion for very long then your ancestors may or could have been polygamists themselves, so that could make you a product of polygamy. In the early 20th century the mormon church gave up polygamy due to political pressure from the federal government. The Mormon church however sent out members of the church to different parts of north america to keep practicing polygamy as it was a very important part of the mormon religion. This is how the fundamentalist LDS church was started, which here lately Warren Jeffs has made nationally known for the little raid in Texas and for the events that have taken place in Colorado City. It seems that you are prejudiced towards these people because they are polygamists, though your religion was founded by Joseph Smith and Polygamy was a very important part of the mormon religion...........Hmmmm, interesting...........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1890_Manifesto

here ya go


(I am not LDS nor did I give you rep)

 

[Snow Fox]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1890_Manifesto

here ya go


(I am not LDS nor did I give you rep)

Yes, I am completely aware of the 1890 Manifesto. As I stated I will debate this until the end of time as far as how the Fundamentalist LDS church was started.....it is not something that leaders of the LDS Church would want to be publicized as the church spends millions each year on buying any literature, etc. that discounts the religion. There are many sources that back up what I stated. As I also stated this seems to be a touchy subject for some people, though I am not sure why?? I am Lutheran, I am not ashamed of what Martin Luthers actions were towards Catholicism. If you are secure in your religious beliefs, why care what others say?

 

[Weekday Warrior]

Yes, I am completely aware of the 1890 Manifesto. As I stated I will debate this until the end of time as far as how the Fundamentalist LDS church was started.....it is not something that leaders of the LDS Church would want to be publicized as the church spends millions each year on buying any literature, etc. that discounts the religion. There are many sources that back up what I stated. As I also stated this seems to be a touchy subject for some people, though I am not sure why?? I am Lutheran, I am not ashamed of what Martin Luthers actions were towards Catholicism. If you are secure in your religious beliefs, why care what others say?

Do you hate Jews?

 

[Snow Fox]

Do you hate Jews?

Exactly my point, I am not ashamed of my religious beliefs. Just because Martin Luther had a problem with Jews, does not mean that I do even though I am a member of the Lutheran church.

I very well could overreact and give you red rep for associating me with hating jews.........this is the point I am trying to convey. Though I could just say that the stories about Martin Luther are complete fiction.

 

[Weekday Warrior]

lol just messin with ya


Trivia for you Snow Fox




Al-Qaeda is to Muslem

as Nazi's are to ????

 

[Weekday Warrior]

I hope that wasn't over the top lol


I'm in a bit of a mood having worked 32 hours in two days


Bright side is I got only 2 hours left!!!

 

[xrated]

sldgy Don't belive anything this guy say's I think he is on drugs.

now that's the funniest line I've heard in a long time!!!!

snowfox, or whoever else....Just to keep the water clean, Catholics and Lutherans are both groups of the same religion. Sects of Christianity if you will....not a big deal, just a little peeve of mine when people say "oh my religion is Catholic or Baptist or Lutheran"....no it's chirstianity.

sldgy, good post on God and having differnt levels of heaven....no idea if this is how Mormons work, but I tell ya what. My God will put a dirty hippie like you right next to the life long missionary in heaven.

 

[IMSICK]

Just cause I have to ask..... What exactly the problem with polygamy? I need to know because there seem to be a pile of followers..... Or are most of the people that hate, bash, honk at, etc doing this because of a fictional characters decision and a fear tactic created to woo the masses?

 

[squarehead55]

Warren Jeff's was a real stand up guy huh? gotta love it

 

[Snow Fox]

lol just messin with ya


Trivia for you Snow Fox




Al-Qaeda is to Muslem

as Nazi's are to ????

Christianity??

 

[Snow Fox]

sldgy Don't belive anything this guy say's I think he is on drugs.

now that's the funniest line I've heard in a long time!!!!

snowfox, or whoever else....Just to keep the water clean, Catholics and Lutherans are both groups of the same religion. Sects of Christianity if you will....not a big deal, just a little peeve of mine when people say "oh my religion is Catholic or Baptist or Lutheran"....no it's chirstianity.

sldgy, good post on God and having differnt levels of heaven....no idea if this is how Mormons work, but I tell ya what. My God will put a dirty hippie like you right next to the life long missionary in heaven.

x, I agree with you that the religions are based on Christianity, though I will disagree with you that Catholicism and Protestantism are the same. If you believe this, you need a history lesson of all the wars and conflicts that have taken place because of the differences between the two. Go ask someone in Northern Ireland if they believe that Catholicism and Protestantism are the same.

 

[xrated]

x, I agree with you that the religions are based on Christianity, though I will disagree with you that Catholicism and Protestantism are the same. If you believe this, you need a history lesson of all the wars and conflicts that have taken place because of the differences between the two. Go ask someone in Northern Ireland if they believe that Catholicism and Protestantism are the same.

Not the same, but overall, when you get to the nitty gritty, they are both groups that follow Christianity and the belief that Jesus was Gods son, sent to save all who will believe....thus the same religous belief. The rest is more methods fo worship, or culutural.

 

[khaddon2110]

Yes, I am completely aware of the 1890 Manifesto. As I stated I will debate this until the end of time as far as how the Fundamentalist LDS church was started.....it is not something that leaders of the LDS Church would want to be publicized as the church spends millions each year on buying any literature, etc. that discounts the religion. There are many sources that back up what I stated. As I also stated this seems to be a touchy subject for some people, though I am not sure why?? I am Lutheran, I am not ashamed of what Martin Luthers actions were towards Catholicism. If you are secure in your religious beliefs, why care what others say?

OK, here is my one and only take on this matter.....I don't know why I'm getting involved because argueing religion is pointless......BUT, I went back and read through everything once I saw the turn of this thread. you are correct about the 1890 manifesto, written to state to the world the fact that Polygomy had been abolished and was no longer practiced. However, when you say that "The Mormon church however sent out members of the church to different parts of north america to keep practicing polygamy as it was a very important part of the mormon religion. This is how the fundamentalist LDS church was started......these people that chose for themselves to keep practicing this aspect of their religion were not sent by the LDS church anywhere......go back and read the manifesto again if it isn't clear.... all aspects of polygomy were abolished and no longer practiced, so unless your aware of some secret movement that exists inside the LDS church, I don't know what's left to debate. The church does acknowledge that polygomy did not end overnight, but it did end and is now grounds for excommunication

I don't know about the rep sent but this little distorted detail that is easily read through without picking it up, could be the reason someone got bent outa shape.

 

[duffman]

I can't figure out why so many people are siding with the polygamists. Polygamy has been disavowed by society in general, and the mormon church. Like it or not, there are negative social consequences for practicing behavior that is outside the mores of society. We have deemed polygamy to be wrong, yet the majority of people here, and the cops, are protecting the actual offenders.

In my mind protecting the polygamists is no different than the average middle-easterner defending radical Islam before 9-11. "Well, their beliefs are different than mine but who am I to judge......"

 

[RMK7SledHead]

oh boy! A MORMON discussion?!!!! Fantastic! Where's dukie? Anybody see that episode of southpark?

 

[Sidehiller]

I think the point everyone is missing is "cops to serious" should be "cops TOO serious". Quit staying up late honking your horn and pay attention in english class. Thanks, I feel better now.

 

[xrated]

I can't figure out why so many people are siding with the polygamists. Polygamy has been disavowed by society in general, and the mormon church. Like it or not, there are negative social consequences for practicing behavior that is outside the mores of society. We have deemed polygamy to be wrong, yet the majority of people here, and the cops, are protecting the actual offenders.

In my mind protecting the polygamists is no different than the average middle-easterner defending radical Islam before 9-11. "Well, their beliefs are different than mine but who am I to judge......"

We don't know that they are polygamists.....this is what dumb azz said....but the masses of snowest have no proof.

 

[Snow Fox]

OK, here is my one and only take on this matter.....I don't know why I'm getting involved because argueing religion is pointless......BUT, I went back and read through everything once I saw the turn of this thread. you are correct about the 1890 manifesto, written to state to the world the fact that Polygomy had been abolished and was no longer practiced. However, when you say that "The Mormon church however sent out members of the church to different parts of north america to keep practicing polygamy as it was a very important part of the mormon religion. This is how the fundamentalist LDS church was started......these people that chose for themselves to keep practicing this aspect of their religion were not sent by the LDS church anywhere......go back and read the manifesto again if it isn't clear.... all aspects of polygomy were abolished and no longer practiced, so unless your aware of some secret movement that exists inside the LDS church, I don't know what's left to debate. The church does acknowledge that polygomy did not end overnight, but it did end and is now grounds for excommunication

I don't know about the rep sent but this little distorted detail that is easily read through without picking it up, could be the reason someone got bent outa shape.

Do you believe everything you are told.......?? I don't know, is there a secret movement inside the LDS church? That is not a question that should be directed at me, but should be directed at the leaders of the LDS church. My question is, Why do the leaders of the church keep important aspects of the churches history locked away for no one to see?