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Conquer 280?

Here is a pic of the 165" 3.5P adjusted to 5/8" slack using the 10# weight.

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I don't think 8" wheels will give enough adjustment to compensate for break in stretch.

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I spoke with Tom from TKI this morning and he does have an axle in the works that will push the center of the rear idler to the rear 1-1/4". He can also accommodate an 8" diameter rear wheel. My only concern with that is that it will be adding to the large gap between the end of the hyfax and the bottom of the wheel.

I also spoke to Nick from Ice Age Performance regarding this. He said they may be able to do a production run for this application with a longer rail which would fill in the gap, and allow you to run the factory idlers and axle or upgrade to 8" or 9" idlers if that's your thing. He was going to talk with the boss today to decide if they will do a production run, of if these will need to be a custom order, which will cost $500 plus.

Either way, this is not a cheap endeavor, and I am not sure the gains will be worth it in the end, but I'm in too deep to turn back now!
 
I have 155 2.6" with belt drive.. if i did my math right i can install 156" 3p conquer with 3" center drive drivers without any problems. Just get little taller gearing. Is that right or did i miss something?
 
Here is a pic of the 165" 3.5P adjusted to 5/8" slack using the 10# weight.

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I don't think 8" wheels will give enough adjustment to compensate for break in stretch.

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If you moved that locking nut to the other side of the mounting bracket, is there a bit more room in the axle window for it to move back more? In your picture it looks like the limitation is that the nut is touching the bolt head (or just about)
 
I have 155 2.6" with belt drive.. if i did my math right i can install 156" 3p conquer with 3" center drive drivers without any problems. Just get little taller gearing. Is that right or did i miss something?

That is what I would do.
 
If you moved that locking nut to the other side of the mounting bracket, is there a bit more room in the axle window for it to move back more? In your picture it looks like the limitation is that the nut is touching the bolt head (or just about)

There might be another 1/8" of space left in the axle window. Not enough to make a difference.
 
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I have 155 2.6" with belt drive.. if i did my math right i can install 156" 3p conquer with 3" center drive drivers without any problems. Just get little taller gearing. Is that right or did i miss something?

Im doing the same in track length an pitch size, but i have the SKS with the chaincase, it's stock gearing is a little higher, so I wont bother gearing it up after i change out the drivers.

Got a text from where i ordered the track, received it yesterday. But still waiting on drivers.
 
looking to make the swap on my axys 155 2.6, what will be better?

154 vs 156? (154 will fit with the bigger driver?)
centre driver or "normal" driver with antistab?
 
We just installed a 165 on a 163 and its not even close to that far back. You have 6 tooth 3.5" pitch drivers right?
 
We just installed a 165 on a 163 and its not even close to that far back. You have 6 tooth 3.5" pitch drivers right?

So you are saying the 165 mounts up with no problem on 163? With no modifications done to the rear idler tensioner?
Could we get some pictures on that? :nod:
 
We just installed a 165 on a 163 and its not even close to that far back. You have 6 tooth 3.5" pitch drivers right?
I have the 3.5" pitch, 6 tooth Avid Extroverts. The pic I posted shows the track tensioned to specs. 5/8" slack measured 16" forward of the axle centerline with a 10# weight.

Not sure how much more it will stretch once it has some miles on it. I'm waiting on a new offset axle to arrive from TKI.

My only concern with the offset, is it will be widening the gap between the rear of the hyfax and the bottom of the idler.

My back up plan is to go to Ice Age for new rails. They are mulling the idea of a production piece for this application which will lower the price considerably.

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If Steve has a chaincase sled his rails are for a 162 track (3.0p). I think you guys have belt drive sleds meaning the track is a 163 actual length. Rails must be longer on the belt drive 163s.
 
If Steve has a chaincase sled his rails are for a 162 track (3.0p). I think you guys have belt drive sleds meaning the track is a 163 actual length. Rails must be longer on the belt drive 163s.
Yep, mine was chain case and factory 3".

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If Steve has a chaincase sled his rails are for a 162 track (3.0p). I think you guys have belt drive sleds meaning the track is a 163 actual length. Rails must be longer on the belt drive 163s.

I'm willing to bet you're onto something as the polaris factory rails for a 2.86" pitch tracked sled and 3" pitch tracked sled are different... 2.86" pitch comes out to a 163.02"
 
Parts fiche has two different PN's for the 2.6" and 3" lugged sleds.

Must be the 3" lugged rails are shorter!
 
Parts fiche has two different PN's for the 2.6" and 3" lugged sleds.

Must be the 3" lugged rails are shorter!
I just looked at that too. Any chance you have a pic showing how much adjustment you have left?

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Does anyone know if the 162" conquer will fit the stock 2.6" 163" rails or will you have to cut the rails?

Also, it looks like the stock Polaris 3" pitch drivers are lighter than the Avid 3" pitch drivers. Would it be lighter to get the stock Polaris 3" pitch drivers or get the Avid drivers for the stock QD aluminum driveshaft?
 
So. Anybody tried this track and new drivers on a chaincase Axys yet? I have the SKS with stock 2.6 track with 7t 2.86" drivers.

I have ordered the 154" Conquer track, with 7t 3" drivers, and got to thinking if the clearance to the tunnel would be enough for it to fit and rotate freely, or did i screw up? :face-icon-small-dis


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I did some math, and based on my calculations the 7tooth 3" pitch drivers are 0.19" inches taller from center of driver and out, than the stock 7tooth 2.86" pitch drivers. The Conquer 280 is 0.2" inches taller then the stock 2.6 Polaris track.

So when adding these numbers, I need 0.39" inches or more, clearance between the tunnel and stock track, to fit the new drivers and track.

Any inputs if this will be to tight?
 
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