Civil Rights

[milehighassassin]

I guess I thought this was a discussion not a debate. If this is a debate then we have all been wasting our time.... and you are wrong... the world is not black and white and neither are my beliefs... It seems our government and most civilized countries believe in a thing called human rights.. Some of which I believe in too.. Do I think the farmer is in the wrong.. no. I think he should get paid a bounty for every illegal he captures... not a suit. Like MHA has said and I agree with him, the suit is bs and it should be thrown out..

God this thread went crazy. I simply said that many people have rights, citizens or no citizens. Once again the Supreme court ruled that you do not have to be a citizen in order to get the rights that our constitution gives us.

No they cannot vote, but that is just one right. Felons cannot vote either but they still get due process don't they? Illegals and minors cannot vote either and they both get due process.

 

[Puff_N_AK]

5 minute majors for fighting accessed to Moutain Powder Slut and Mile High Assasin.

Game misconduct to Ruffy for third man in.

Now that everyone is done throwing sand in each others Manjinas

Has anyone noticed that MALDEF is suing this poor rancher for 32 Million, and the convienience is that his 220,000 acre ranch is valued at 34 Million.

As an American i am saddend by the state of our Judical system and the road that our citizens are being led down.

 

[MPS]

God this thread went crazy. I simply said that many people have rights, citizens or no citizens. Once again the Supreme court ruled that you do not have to be a citizen in order to get the rights that our constitution gives us.

No they cannot vote, but that is just one right. Felons cannot vote either but they still get due process don't they? Illegals and minors cannot vote either and they both get due process.

You want to cite the case that the Supreme Court ruled that illegal aliens get all consitutional rights? So an illegal can carry a firearm? Is that what you are saying, because the 2nd amendment allows that. They have 4th amendment rights? haha ...so they are free from search and seizure without a search warrant? haha You brought the Supreme Court into it smart one...so read up on the opinion of the Supreme Court when concerning the 4th amendment read by Chief Justice Rehnquist. He delivers the decision of the court near the bottom, so you don't have to read all that legal mumbo jumbo....because I know you wouldn't understand it.

http://www.guncite.com/court/fed/sc/494us259.html

However this supreme court case refers to property outside of the US. If he had been a US citizen it would have mattered and they wouldn't have been able to search. The search and seizure of an illegal's property on US soil without a warrant has been debated for a long time, but people assume they have that right too because of INS v. Lopez-Mendoza.

...and like i said before I named several civil rights, but you keep focusing on voting. They can hold public office? They can legally work? They can receive federal college assistance? They can legally enroll in public schools (directed at your 12 year old argument)? They can legally obtain a driver's license in most states? They can receive a business grant from the federal government? Are they allowed tax breaks for certain things? Can they receive an FHA loan on a home if they qualify? These are all civil rights. You better get back to school kindi gartner.

You keep changing your verbage....no you didn't say that many people have rights....citizens or not. Keep changing it until it molds into what you know is right! LMFAO!

...and by the way since you keep saying illegals get the rights our Consitution gives us....well by your own admission they cannot vote....and that is a Consitutional right...do you need the amendment?

Illegal aliens are entitled to the rights finding their source in the nature of man (human rights) or in the constitution (unless the right, such as voting, is limited to citizens). Which I have already stated that they are entitled to certain constitutional rights BECAUSE THESE RIGHTS ARE DERIVED FROM BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS....They do not receive all consitutional rights! When it comes to statutory rights, there may be differences between aliens and citizens, and between legal and illegal aliens, unless the statute’s doing so violates the Constitution!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Grizzly Adams]

fast 5 mins in the box MPS. Your makin me a prophet! haha reps for that 1

 

[Puff_N_AK]

fast 5 mins in the box MPS. Your makin me a prophet! haha reps for that 1

Are you kidding, the refs couldn't get him in the box, and he raced over to take on anyone from their bench.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

Every good team has a few goons!

 

[MPS]

shut up you two fu(kers! hehe

b) The Fourth Amendment phrase "the people" seems to be a term of art used in select parts of the Constitution and contrasts with the words "person" and "accused" used in Articles of the Fifth and Sixth Amendments regulating criminal procedures. This suggests that "the people" (p.260)refers to a class of persons who are part of a national community or who have otherwise developed sufficient connection with this country to be considered part of that community.

 

[highmtn]

This is so sad. How far the bleeding hearts in this country are willing to go to flush it down the toilet. The illegal MEXICANS are stealing or destroying the property of an AMERICAN citizen on American soil. The Mexicans are Knowingly breaking the law (premeditated)in groups ( conspiracy?). Who on here would go unarmed against 16 criminals who may be armed? As for the yelling, have you ever seen a Police Officer make an arrest? It's done to establish authority and intimidate the subject. If I catch someone stealing my property, I'll probably yell before I pull the trigger. I have no problem whatsoever with the rancher shooting these vermin as long as he shows responsibility and pays for the backhoe to bury them. Maybe he could throw their scumbag lawyer in the hole first- I'm sure that deep down, he'd be a good person

 

[Grizzly Adams]

Are you kidding, the refs couldn't get him in the box, and he raced over to take on anyone from their bench.

Thats it the Grizzly is going into the stands to sort out the few fans they have, give me 5 too Hope the cooler is full when I get to the box!

 

[MPS]

Interesting facts....more Americans have been murdered by illegal aliens in the U.S. in the last 3 years, than all U.S. troops killed in Iraq in 5 years since the invasion of Iraq in March, 2003 ? Thousands of Americans are being murdered every year by illegal aliens, whose anonymity encourages and breeds more crime (illegal aliens being repeatedly arrested, released, and deported). 29% of all people incarcerated in U.S. federal prisons are illegal aliens! 32% of all illegal aliens receive welfare. 50% of illegal aliens pay no income taxes. Not counting the untold cost of crime, disease, and millions of displaced jobs, illegal aliens are costing middle-class Americans an estimated $70 Billion to $338 Billion in net losses (per year).

 

[MPS]

http://americaswatchtower.com/2009/02/09/illegal-aliens-sue-american-citizen-for-civil-rights-violations/

 

[MPS]

thats it the grizzly is going into the stands to sort out the few fans they have, give me 5 too hope the cooler is full when i get to the box!

lmao

 

[Puff_N_AK]

Thats it the Grizzly is going into the stands to sort out the few fans they have, give me 5 too Hope the cooler is full when I get to the box!

I would have to be on the bench passing sticks over the glass to the Grizzly One. Darned fans heads so hard he keeps breaking sticks on em. Box would have to have a cooler full of refreshments for such a hard working guy.

 

[MPS]

I would have to be on the bench passing sticks over the glass to the Grizzly One. Darned fans heads so hard he keeps breaking sticks on em. Box would have to have a cooler full of refreshments for such a hard working guy.

Pass me a cold one!

 

[Puff_N_AK]

Pass me a cold one!

Would have to pass you the aluminum foil and tape first.

 

[MPS]

Would have to pass you the aluminum foil and tape first.

 

[ski-doo junkie]

" Puttin on the foil coach"

From the movie " Slapshot"

 

[MPS]

" Puttin on the foil coach"

From the movie " Slapshot"

Oh ya ya....hehe

 

[Puff_N_AK]

" Puttin on the foil coach"

From the movie " Slapshot"

we have a winner.

 

[highmtn]

Interesting facts....more Americans have been murdered by illegal aliens in the U.S. in the last 3 years, than all U.S. troops killed in Iraq in 5 years since the invasion of Iraq in March, 2003 ? Thousands of Americans are being murdered every year by illegal aliens, whose anonymity encourages and breeds more crime (illegal aliens being repeatedly arrested, released, and deported). 29% of all people incarcerated in U.S. federal prisons are illegal aliens! 32% of all illegal aliens receive welfare. 50% of illegal aliens pay no income taxes. Not counting the untold cost of crime, disease, and millions of displaced jobs, illegal aliens are costing middle-class Americans an estimated $70 Billion to $338 Billion in net losses (per year).

Last January, the wife of a friend was struck and killed by a Mexican that ran a red light making a left turn and struck her in the crosswalk. The mexican was here legally but had a suspended license because of speeding and traffic signal violations. Also had no insurance. Norm's wife was taken to the hospital and later died. The Mexican was cited, released, and disappeared. This individual didn't care about the family he destroyed and ran to avoid being held accountable.