Christ is risen!

[caper11]

My parents and teachers taught me critical thinking and my disbelief in the church and it's fantasty children's stories are a testament to my upbringing. I've read plenty of theology to try to see if any certain prophet or deity is a clear answer. It turns out almost all religions are nearly the same with slight adjustments based on their location of origin. Reading about the creation of Mormonism in the United States is definitely a classic tale of man's quest for power and control. Christianity has had a nice long run but it seems to be losing its grip. Islam as well. The atheists will take the top spot soon.

List of religious populations - Wikipedia

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Just like in politics, the left and right wing nuts can fight over everything and the people with no affiliations will make the smart logical choices. That is the critical thinking community. We know faith is just another word for ignorance.

So do you return your statutory holiday pay you receive for Christian holidays???
Or Do you keep working when the stat day shows up. Or should we get rid of all stat holidays with this cancel culture????
It seems some have missed the actual meaning of a Stat holiday.

 

[simple]

Lol what a silly point.

Do you know how many schools get religious holidays off? Then you enter the work force and get only a few holiday days off. So one of them is Christmas and that has a tie to Christianity? And? It now is a time of year to boycott companies that don't say merry christmas. Who is on the cancel culture train again? I can't keep up if right wing extremists are for or against it?

Thanks for the laugh. Take back your holiday that was originally a pagan winter solstice celebration anyway. I can't tell if it is about black Jesus or white Santa anyway. Lol

 

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[Teth-Air]

Lol what a silly point.

Do you know how many schools get religious holidays off? Then you enter the work force and get only a few holiday days off. So one of them is Christmas and that has a tie to Christianity? And? It now is a time of year to boycott companies that don't say merry christmas. Who is on the cancel culture train again? I can't keep up if right wing extremists are for or against it?

Thanks for the laugh. Take back your holiday that was originally a pagan winter solstice celebration anyway. I can't tell if it is about black Jesus or white Santa anyway. Lol

Do you think you descended from a worm or were your ancestors dropped off by an alien?

 

[IDspud]

Pay Attention, everyone on here calls him dipshit for a reason.....He Fell straight from Uranus.

 

[simple]

You guys still carrying on about a dead prophet? Which one? Jesus, Muhammad, or Krishna? Because there wasn't just one.

Funny you never questioned that. Blind devotion gets you nowhere. Enjoy your time here. You'll be dead as dirt eventually. Lol

 

[Teth-Air]

You guys still carrying on about a dead prophet? Which one? Jesus, Muhammad, or Krishna? Because there wasn't just one.

Funny you never questioned that. Blind devotion gets you nowhere. Enjoy your time here. You'll be dead as dirt eventually. Lol

How many of these "profits" had followers that gave up their lives before they gave up their faith? This is a first step to qualifying religions and understanding if it is a fad or something solid. If you are going to die for it, your faith is strong and these followers probably experienced something life-changing. What would it take for YOU to completely make a 180 and tell us all that you were completely wrong? Maybe seeing something with your own eyes? Maybe a super-natural visitor in the night? Everybody is willing to say, "if I saw "xxxxx", then I would believe. I takes more for some than others but everybody has their point of reckoning. I have had experiences that I would have said would be impossible, so I have faith. I hope you get that "experience" too. What you read and hear, all aside, when you experience, it is personal.

 

[simple]

I'm always looking for a reason to allow Allah into my life. His followers are willing to die for their faith. They seem so passionate about the Quran. Since mohammad was a prophet after Jesus it seems he might have the upper hand about what the word of God/Allah sounds like. I'm just confused why I can't find more Islamic worship places to practice my faith in western US

 

[leisureexpress]

 

[Teth-Air]

I'm always looking for a reason to allow Allah into my life. His followers are willing to die for their faith. They seem so passionate about the Quran. Since mohammad was a prophet after Jesus it seems he might have the upper hand about what the word of God/Allah sounds like. I'm just confused why I can't find more Islamic worship places to practice my faith in western US

I have read the Quran so I could know first hand if it was good or bad. I would say the message is good but differs from the bible in how you are saved. Some will read it differently. With the Koran your salvation is based on "good works" (saying we can buy salvation) while the bible tells us a sacrifice was, and faith is, required for salvation. If you are Muslim it is your interpretation of what a "good work" is and that is where things can go sideways. You might think helping the poor is a "good work" or you might think hurting non-Muslims is a "good work". Both religions worship the same God but interpret what God wants and his methods and character differently. I respect how faithful most Muslims are and I bet there are more Muslims that are actually "good people" than Christians that are actually "good people". (percentile) This comes from religion being more woven into day to day life in Middle-Eastern countries more than in Western countries.

 

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[James T Kirk]

I have read the Quran so I could know first hand if it was good or bad. I would say the message is good but differs from the bible in how you are saved. Some will read it differently. With the Koran your salvation is based on "good works" (saying we can buy salvation) while the bible tells us a sacrifice was, and faith is, required for salvation. If you are Muslim it is your interpretation of what a "good work" is and that is where things can go sideways. You might think helping the poor is a "good work" or you might think hurting non-Muslims is a "good work". Both religions worship the same God but interpret what God wants and his methods and character differently. I respect how faithful most Muslims are and I bet there are more Muslims that are actually "good people" than Christians that are actually "good people". (percentile) This comes from religion being more woven into day to day life in Middle-Eastern countries more than in Western countries.

Only the religious would be arrogant enough to think that only they know what their god wants. I guess that’s the beauty of imaginary friends, you can make up whatever you want about them...

So you say muslims can “buy” salvation? So do Christians-you join the church and put your money in the collection plate every week and , wow, look at that, you are saved too, doesn’t matter if you’re a homophobic bigot that supports an institution doesn’t want two people who love each other to be able to marry (among other things) because it offends them-as long as you join the club and pledge fealty you’re good...

 

[simple]

I find salvation every time there is a powder day. I just don't understand why people don't find that kind of divine happiness while here on this earth. It reminds me how fortunate I am and that religion was developed as a means for those less fortunate to believe that level of happiness will come after life is over. Seems like a grift to me. A cosmic level fantasy to help get through a rough life. No surprise people are leaving the church as the world gets more interconnected and sees you can escape your poor life with one click of the mouse. It opens up all sorts of worlds. Sure there is a dark side to it....but there is a dark side to everything that man creates....including religion.

 

[Hawkster]

For some it's a guidance in life , why you choose to control thiers speaks of the dark .

 

[Teth-Air]

Only the religious would be arrogant enough to think that only they know what their god wants. I guess that’s the beauty of imaginary friends, you can make up whatever you want about them...

So you say muslims can “buy” salvation? So do Christians-you join the church and put your money in the collection plate every week and , wow, look at that, you are saved too, doesn’t matter if you’re a homophobic bigot that supports an institution doesn’t want two people who love each other to be able to marry (among other things) because it offends them-as long as you join the club and pledge fealty you’re good...

I disagree. Christians cannot go through the motions to gain salvation only someone who is not versed in the bible will think that. And yes there are many that claim to be Christians but are not really. In addition every sin is allotted the same punishment so it does not matter if you lie, cheat, steal or anything sinful, the punishment would be the same. Its more of a question "are you perfect or not?" Therefore if being homosexual is a sin, only perfect people would be able to judge those living that lifestyle, and we know, no-body is perfect. Most faiths teach us that we need to love others and as soon as this is not done we failing the foundations of the faith. To love is to accept even when you might not agree. This is where things get hard for some people.
What you seem to be doing here is painting everyone with the same brush. There are extremes and everything in between so if you want Christians not to judge others, you should start by setting the example. and not judge all Christians the same. (or any other faith)

 

[simple]

To love is to accept even when you might not agree.

I'm digging the positivity.

I think that when Christian leaders set poor examples they should be condemned. Why is it the church can't do that effectively? One example is the pedophiles and another is the evangelical mega church leaders who spread division and make themselves rich through lies and deception. Why do they get protected by the church?

 

[Teth-Air]

I find salvation every time there is a powder day. I just don't understand why people don't find that kind of divine happiness while here on this earth. It reminds me how fortunate I am and that religion was developed as a means for those less fortunate to believe that level of happiness will come after life is over. Seems like a grift to me. A cosmic level fantasy to help get through a rough life. No surprise people are leaving the church as the world gets more interconnected and sees you can escape your poor life with one click of the mouse. It opens up all sorts of worlds. Sure there is a dark side to it....but there is a dark side to everything that man creates....including religion.

Again, what is your reckoning point that would make you stop in your tracks and humble yourself and announce to all that you have been wrong?
I get it right now your life is so good so you feel you have no need for a god. It is usually some negative life changing event that is out of our control that has us begging for help. If the help comes would you acknowledge the source? Those that have a good life are more likely to do the begging than those who have a very bad life and are ready to die. We all end up there at some point of our life.

 

[simple]

When I hit that low point I asked the devil to help me. Things got a lot easier once I realized by soul is bound to that chaotic deity. I'm dead serious BTW. Satan is actually a much more reasonable deity. Less silly rules and hypocrites running the earthly program.

 

[Teth-Air]

To love is to accept even when you might not agree.

I'm digging the positivity.

I think that when Christian leaders set poor examples they should be condemned. Why is it the church can't do that effectively? One example is the pedophiles and another is the evangelical mega church leaders who spread division and make themselves rich through lies and deception. Why do they get protected by the church?

The sinning pedophile has the same allotted punishment as the thief. In either case there are victims. Our culture has graded sins and punishments. We first must realize all sins are equal and that makes us all equally guilty, Now I agree with you that churches must set an example and there are great churches out there. You just hear about the bad churches and bad Christians. And every congregation has good and bad. You must understand that most people go to church, not because they feel they are good, it is because they think they are bad. They feel it is a place to go to get "fixed". In some cases it works and in other cases they can negatively impact the church and how it is viewed.

 

[Teth-Air]

When I hit that low point I asked the devil to help me. Things got a lot easier once I realized by soul is bound to that chaotic deity. I'm dead serious BTW. Satan is actually a much more reasonable deity. Less silly rules and hypocrites running the earthly program.

Good for you, you can believe in the devil. If the devil exits so must the one who made him. BTW the "rules" you refer to are mostly what you perceive and actually there are very few "rules" other than: Love god and Love they neighbor. These are not even seen by real Christians as rules but rather ways of showing gratitude of what we perceive of what God has done for us. No pressure other than deciding to do what is right rather than what our selfishness tells us to do.