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[summ8rmk]

20lbs is less than 5% difference, think about that

Go Hawks!

 

[Willi2877]

The Yamaha is only 58lbs more than an 850 (618 to 560) with a better weight to power ratio and reliability.

 

[sno*jet]

red mtn. the lightest sled you refer to does not accelerate up the mountain faster than any of the other brands top current models, ask me how i know.
quit pickin on your buddies ol 16.

 

[Red Mtn]

red mtn. the lightest sled you refer to does not accelerate up the mountain faster than any of the other brands top current models, ask me how i know.
quit pickin on your buddies ol 16.

Well, so far it has been, ask me how I know. Since mine is a '16 too that is pretty fair I think. The kid on the 850 couldn't keep up either.


You guys quoting 15-20lbs are missing the truth by 2-3x and you know it. If you can get within 15-20 lbs bone stock, that would be 423-428 lbs in a 153, I am all ears. Truth is, it is more like 40-50lb difference. That is 10%, and I think it is a big deal. I may be in the minority in this section but the lightest sled outsells the Cat by a ton so I am far from alone in considering weight.

 

[Red Mtn]

The Yamaha is only 58lbs more than an 850 (618 to 560) with a better weight to power ratio and reliability.

So that makes it about 120 lbs more than a Polaris? If I brought my wife along to equal out the weight I be the reliability would get a lot better too.


"only 58 lbs" THAT is funny.

 

[sno*jet]

Since mine is a '16 too that is pretty fair I think.

nope. the 8 tooth drivers on the 17MC and 18ER put the gearing in a sweet spot that is noticed on an open hillclimb compared to the 7 tooth models. lower attack angle helps too. as well as the 6-8 pounds they dropped from 16. every pound counts, this is from a "cat guy"

 

[Csm709]

I have news for you. The ONLY folks who do not care about mtn sled weight are Yammi and Cat fans because the other two manufacturers have been handing it to you for years. I have been reading the forums and I do not see where anybody has weights for the '18 MC. Important consumer advice even of you choose to ignore it. My buddies '16 Cat, while a huge improvement in handling over the previous chassis, is still a heavy pig. You can lie to yourself all you want that it doesn't matter, r you can't feel the difference but the truth is weight is a detriment to every aspect of performance. The less unnecessary weight, the better the sled will handle and accelerate.


It is a performance thing, you clearly wouldn't understand....

Looks like a 10lbs difference according to what I read in some other threads

 

[Dam Dave]

I only care about ready to ride weight, the weight as it leaves the parking lot, just my 2 cents your opinion may vary

 

[Dam Dave]

Well, so far it has been, ask me how I know. Since mine is a '16 too that is pretty fair I think. The kid on the 850 couldn't keep up either.


You guys quoting 15-20lbs are missing the truth by 2-3x and you know it. If you can get within 15-20 lbs bone stock, that would be 423-428 lbs in a 153, I am all ears. Truth is, it is more like 40-50lb difference. That is 10%, and I think it is a big deal. I may be in the minority in this section but the lightest sled outsells the Cat by a ton so I am far from alone in considering weight.

not auguring but the 2015 2.6 will out climb a 2016 3.0, the 7 tooth driver really hurts the 2016, I owned both, you can help it a little by re gearing higher but a 8 tooth driver is what it needs

the 2017 MC and all 2018s with rolled chain case and 8 tooth drivers will out climb all previous Cats, drastically different animal

 

[summ8rmk]

Spent the day riding both.
When ur riding the sled down the trail and sidehilling, Cat feels soooo much lighter, so easy to ride compared to the rmk.

Go Hawks!

 

[Red Mtn]

Looks like a 10lbs difference according to what I read in some other threads

Good job, you picked the second heaviest model Polaris sells. Mine is right around 500 RTR, bone stock. That makes for a substantial difference.

 

[Willi2877]

Good job, you picked the second heaviest model Polaris sells. Mine is right around 500 RTR, bone stock. That makes for a substantial difference.

Also note....
Red Mtn Red Mtn is online now
Currently: fixing my Polaris...

So what you have is a 500lb ready to fix sled.

 

[Red Mtn]

I only care about ready to ride weight, the weight as it leaves the parking lot, just my 2 cents your opinion may vary

That's great but nobody publishes RTR weights. Two of the three publish dry weights, it would just be nice to compare. All you have to do is add the same 90-100lbs to any of the dry weights to get the RTR weights. Then I could decide if the base model with most of the same goodies as the MC might be a viable choice. Or are there savings to be had by upgrading? All anyone can do is guess and tell me how good they feel. not really much help


Once again, great news for the Cat faithful! Just a little more info and better color choices would have already made it easy to switch. Getting neither doesn't give much confidence.


Anyway, obviously not even worth discussing here. The new Cat looks great! Party on Wayne, Party on Garth

 

[Red Mtn]

Also note....
Red Mtn Red Mtn is online now
Currently: fixing my Polaris...

So what you have is a 500lb ready to fix sled.

My mistake was thinking I could ride it two seasons. I may just go back to a new Poo every season. Yes, they appear to be disposable, at least the motors. When they are fresh though, I still haven't ridden anything I like better. Glutten for punishment I guess.

 

[Dam Dave]

That's great but nobody publishes RTR weights. Two of the three publish dry weights, it would just be nice to compare. All you have to do is add the same 90-100lbs to any of the dry weights to get the RTR weights. Then I could decide if the base model with most of the same goodies as the MC might be a viable choice. Or are there savings to be had by upgrading? All anyone can do is guess and tell me how good they feel. not really much help


Once again, great news for the Cat faithful! Just a little more info and better color choices would have already made it easy to switch. Getting neither doesn't give much confidence.


Anyway, obviously not even worth discussing here. The new Cat looks great! Party on Wayne, Party on Garth

well........almost, some add lots of heavy duty items to some brands and some brands come ready to ride, so its not quite that simple as adding 100 pounds to any dry weight

 

[Willi2877]

Polaris has a great chassis, but the motors have always been an issue. They are getting a little better, but not enough for me to drop a bank note on one. When I bought my 14 M8000, it was because I would rather pull the clutch bolt to fix my sled than have to pull the motor.

 

[Csm709]

Good job, you picked the second heaviest model Polaris sells. Mine is right around 500 RTR, bone stock. That makes for a substantial difference.

I was simply putting the information for everybody to read, no need to get butthurt over it.

 

[Vern]

The dry weight on paper goes out the window once you have to start adding all the bracing to the doo and poo to keep them together, whereas the cat is good to go right out of the box. I ride predominantly with pros and axys sleds, and have still yet to see this number on paper cause the poo to perform any better than the cat. What I have seen is the poo's crumple tunnels on ski hits that would make you think "maybe" a tweaked A-arm should result, and have seen the cat come out unscathed from hits I was sure there would be damage. That plus the well known fact the cat engine is bulletproof, and poo not so much, is plenty of reason to be happy with whatever weight difference is there.

 

[Dam Dave]

I thought this thread was about color choices?

pick up a dirt bike magazine and you will find actual weights for every bike tested, what is wrong with Snowest and others? caving into advertising dollars!

I would like to see the magazines list actual dry weights and weights full of fuel and other fluids, maybe a spare belt and factory tool kit , come on Snowest get some balls and give us the truth

 

[summ8rmk]

All sleds under 415lbs should be red and 415-450lbs should be green and 450-500 should be orange, 500+ should be blue.

Go Hawks!