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Carl's cycle 900
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snobyrd
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Assault I somewat agree with u, but in conversation with them yesterday he denied there was any issue, and for me or anybody else, were not gonna spend $$s on any performance inhansment product from any mod shop if there's something going on that prevents a kit from working, I've got well over 2000$ into my pull and go kit and it sucks the big one, I feel embarrassed to tell anyone that I'm supposed to be up x amount of hp. There is a issue and the mod shops should accept there is a issue, fix the issue and they will sell a ton more of kits, cause ultimately the money is in my pocket and I'm not spending it on any mod if the benefits are nill. Carls probably makes a dynamite kit,but if the power aint getting to the Trax due to some Polaris enhanced issue than it's like putting perfume on a pig, it's still a pig. There still is pol electronics in these sleds and maybe this is where our problem lies.
I am not sure why some of you are bashing us that have problems or better yet why you are even on this post. I too can get on here and say man I seen one run with an 04 800 and it just ripped. My advice to you guys is I have paid the money so I am entitled to my opinion. If you dont own one I could really care less what you think or what you have. I will tell you if you put this motor up against a comparable motor such as bikeman 900 in an HCR and its not even comparable. The HCR is taking down turbos in all types of riding and my 900 wont even come close. So everyone has an opinion of what a sled should run like, yea if you run them against older sleds or s;eds not set up they rip. But I can take my wifes stock one that is clutched dead nuts and climb anywhere my 900 will go. Does that sound like a sled that rips? oh wait it must cause it has a name brand on it.
I have spent my fair part on the phone with Jack and Chris. And like someone metioned it was a, we have never heard of the problem all of ours run great. Thats direct words from Chris but yet when you call and talk to Jack its a complety different story like yea mine has done that a few times and I dont really know why yet! Great I can except that but when you straight up try and feed me full of BS then yes I get a little upset. This was never supposed to be a bash carls thing, this was a try and gather information from each other and try and figure a solution out cause I would love for this thing to run against a comparable motor.
So for all the people turning this into drama why dont you go post your comments somewhere else and let us that actually have the motor try and help each other. Like I said alot of people are probably amazed with mine but the point of the matter is that I know what I paid and I know the outcome of my money spent and I am not satisfied with it. I could care less if anyone else is happy with my sled or impressed, I just want to hear from actual owners and their experiences. Carls is not GOD and they can make mistakes as does everyone, not sure why the sun rises and sets on them but I guess it does. I dont care what company it is there is always gonna be some problems as we dont live in a perfct world.
RANT Over this thread has turned completley useless.
I have spent my fair part on the phone with Jack and Chris. And like someone metioned it was a, we have never heard of the problem all of ours run great. Thats direct words from Chris but yet when you call and talk to Jack its a complety different story like yea mine has done that a few times and I dont really know why yet! Great I can except that but when you straight up try and feed me full of BS then yes I get a little upset. This was never supposed to be a bash carls thing, this was a try and gather information from each other and try and figure a solution out cause I would love for this thing to run against a comparable motor.
So for all the people turning this into drama why dont you go post your comments somewhere else and let us that actually have the motor try and help each other. Like I said alot of people are probably amazed with mine but the point of the matter is that I know what I paid and I know the outcome of my money spent and I am not satisfied with it. I could care less if anyone else is happy with my sled or impressed, I just want to hear from actual owners and their experiences. Carls is not GOD and they can make mistakes as does everyone, not sure why the sun rises and sets on them but I guess it does. I dont care what company it is there is always gonna be some problems as we dont live in a perfct world.
RANT Over this thread has turned completley useless.
This thread hasn't become useless, ignore the people that aren't contributing and carry on trying to troubleshoot your sleds. If you guys work together everyone of you will benefit, if you start another thread it would probably be disrupted all over. There are those of us that want to learn about these engines and I apologize for riding on your coat tails while you struggle with them but I'm learning stuff all the time listening to you guys. I say keep on doing what your doing.
I would also like to ride with some others. I am meeting a guy in a couple weeks and we will have a side by side comparison of par 910 vs Carl's 900. Should be interesting. Hopefully I don't look like a fool again like I did with a bikeman 900. Bikeman can't fit a pipe without using a hammer but they sure did make their big bore run.
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Anthony Oberti
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PDP. If you are in CO, you should hook up with Burandt or Skinner. They both have Carls 900s and they love them. If you still can't get it figured out just take it to Jack and let him dial it in for you. I have rode 3 different 900s and they all ripped.
Anthony I have a coulple questions for you try not to take them the wrong way as they are legitimate questions.
1. Do you really think that with all the sleds burandt has that the 900 is his first pic when going riding?
2. The 900's you have rode with, will they run with a race gas turbo? Cause I seen the bikeman 900 beat a pro runing 16lbs of boost. I have rode this HCR that is a 900 cause I opened the side panels and looked and it is a 900. First of the HCR has a track speed of 87 mph in fresh up a hill, mine has 46 MPH on same hill same conditions. Carls has heard about this sled from more people than just me and we all say its not true but it is no B.S.
3. Do you feel the 900 has more bottom end and kinda lacks top end or do you think they pull the same until you let off the throttle?
On with my report from what I have figured out this weekend.
Found a hill that was untouched with about a foot of fresh, first pull was taching 8300 at the bottom and was dropping to 7800 by the top and had 43 MPH track speed
put stock pipe on and made 2nd pull right next to my first. 8100 at the bottom and about 7600 at the top 40 MPH track speed. Sled defently lost power with stock pipe. didnt have as good as bottom end or midrange
SLP pipe went back on for remainder of tests. Took lime green primary spring out and put almond in. sled pulled 8300 would fall to 7900 and bounce right back to about 81 sometimes then 8250. Track speed was 46 MPH felt like alot more bottom end and backshift was a huge improvement.
All test were done using 62g belly busters instead of the 64g that are recomended. Did put sled into ethonal mode to see if it got worse and it did so I know sled is not running lean as ethonal richens map up 5%. I am going to put wideband O2 on and see what I got. Remember I thought it was an elevation thing thats why I would like to check AFR. I just may have it running the best its going to run I dont know maybe I am used to my old turbo and am expecting to much of this thing.
1. Do you really think that with all the sleds burandt has that the 900 is his first pic when going riding?
2. The 900's you have rode with, will they run with a race gas turbo? Cause I seen the bikeman 900 beat a pro runing 16lbs of boost. I have rode this HCR that is a 900 cause I opened the side panels and looked and it is a 900. First of the HCR has a track speed of 87 mph in fresh up a hill, mine has 46 MPH on same hill same conditions. Carls has heard about this sled from more people than just me and we all say its not true but it is no B.S.
3. Do you feel the 900 has more bottom end and kinda lacks top end or do you think they pull the same until you let off the throttle?
On with my report from what I have figured out this weekend.
Found a hill that was untouched with about a foot of fresh, first pull was taching 8300 at the bottom and was dropping to 7800 by the top and had 43 MPH track speed
put stock pipe on and made 2nd pull right next to my first. 8100 at the bottom and about 7600 at the top 40 MPH track speed. Sled defently lost power with stock pipe. didnt have as good as bottom end or midrange
SLP pipe went back on for remainder of tests. Took lime green primary spring out and put almond in. sled pulled 8300 would fall to 7900 and bounce right back to about 81 sometimes then 8250. Track speed was 46 MPH felt like alot more bottom end and backshift was a huge improvement.
All test were done using 62g belly busters instead of the 64g that are recomended. Did put sled into ethonal mode to see if it got worse and it did so I know sled is not running lean as ethonal richens map up 5%. I am going to put wideband O2 on and see what I got. Remember I thought it was an elevation thing thats why I would like to check AFR. I just may have it running the best its going to run I dont know maybe I am used to my old turbo and am expecting to much of this thing.
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Anthony Oberti
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I dont know what Burandts first choice is for sleds, but I know he owns a Carls 900, not a Bikeman. I also know that Skinner liked the 900 so much he got one himself. Additionally, I know that Matt Entz told me that he liked Burandts 900 so much he wondered why anyone would want a turbo. As for the 900 running with a race gas turbo. Well I have a lot to say about that. I run my turbo at 12lbs and the 900 will not run with it on top, not even close. It is simply impossible for a NA 900 to run with a turbo at that much boost. If that is the case then I assume the turbo forgot to plug in one of his spark plugs. . It sounds like you have a problem with your sled, so hy don't you drive to Boise and have them dial in your sled.
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carls cycles 900 rocks
I had a reply wrote up for you Anthony but quite frankly I could give 2 sh!ts what you have to say at this point cause you came back with a reply that a 10 year old would write up calling me a liar and trying to lure people into bashing me. Your a real legend to the sport thank you for being such a wonderful help of information.
Oh Internet drama sounds like everyone's mind is made up. I am done with this thread, turned into a complete bash session.
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Anthony Oberti
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Yeah it may have been a little harsh, but come on. A NA 900 running with a 16lb turbo? Seriously, what kind of power do you think the turbo is making? 230, 240, 250hp? I would venture somewhere in there. How can you say that a NA 900 at elevation will even be close? That 900 is not even 200hp yet you say it is beating a turbo?
Here's what I can tell you for sure. It is N/A weather or not it is truly a 900 I don't know. But out across a lake it beat a proclimb, M8 race gas turbo, and a pro turbo. Same thing on the hill, but the hill was not a huge pull. I'm not saying that it smokes the turbos as I think on a long pull the turbo is gonna beat it considerably but on 200 yard hill it was the first to the top. There are some N/A motors that will out run some turbos so you can't say its total BS. So on the big pulls I'm not saying its beating turbos but for the in the trees and steep short hills it runs like a race gas turbo. I'm not the only one that has witnessed this as Carl's said they had another customer near me tell them there was cat 900 getting it done. I replied must have been the one I was telling you about. Carl's said huh yeah this other guy is on a turbo and had to turn the boost up quite a bit to keep up.
Sorry this is really not a thread about a bikeman 900 nor is it a thread about how a 900 compares to a turbo. I shouldn't have brought this up I was just really hoping that if it was a 900 that mine would run like it does.
Sorry this is really not a thread about a bikeman 900 nor is it a thread about how a 900 compares to a turbo. I shouldn't have brought this up I was just really hoping that if it was a 900 that mine would run like it does.
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Anthony Oberti
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Ok, that makes a little mroe sense. Yeah, on a short pull, I can see a 900 beating the turbo. On a big hill, then that is different. On a lake or meadow is even another story. Too many variables, like track, clutching, gearing, you name it. Hope you get your 900 dialed....I assume your secondary is all good?
