Belt Drive Failure

[AkLogan]

So is that a 2012 with a belt drive installed?

 

[mike_s]

--They are going to get loaded either way, either inertia from track or the inertia from the clutches / engine

Ture, but the inertial loading that the belt will see from the track wanting to freewheel forward, or load applied from the sled rolling are small potatoes compared to the shock loading it will see when a guy clamps on the binders. Stopping the track through the belt is alot more inertia (especially with a longer track) than stopping the secondary clutch.

All of that aside, if you do happen to shelack a belt, have fun cause youre brakes will be officially non opperational. At least if you grenade a chain chances are it will pile up in the bottom of the case and stop you. That is what happened to me the first and only time i broke a chain. Full throttle full steam ahead turned to crunch and uuuuuuuurrrrch in a real hurry.

 

[Kleiny]

--Polaris design lacks a belt tensioner. Any runout in the jackshaft or trackshaft or loose tolerance with the belt may cause tolerance stacking and slippage under load

--Aftermarket belt drives seem to work running a lot more HP

So big horsepower Harley's dont work since they dont have a belt tensioner on there drive belt.

 

[Drifter]

Everybody just relax!!!! Tudizzle I cannot believe the response to your post how old are some of you guys? All you guys that are saying the belt drive isn't going to work are just jealous that you don't have one to ride this year. Some of those demo sleds had thousands of miles on them and not one post saying they had failed. Chris burandt had one last year my brother was down there and watched him ride it.

Snow is coming and very soon everybody will realize they over reacted.

 

[Going West]

Dont know why everyone keeps comparing these things to harleys. I cant remember the last time I saw a harley out on the hill. Simple fact is that these sleds will put way more stress on the belt then a bike. I am personally not that concerned, Im sure If there is a problem it will be either taken care of by Polaris or the aftermarket very quickly.

At least these belts are cheaper then the 25 belts my proclimb ate last year.

 

[mountainhorse]

I made the post you are talking about


YOu posted this am that we knew nothing about the sled...when it had been posted the night before?

I posted this this last night in the original thread.

Still there...but there are no details... turbo or not.... or tail landing on the power... Is it his/her sled or something that was taken somewhere else...??? HMMM????

Don't jump to conclusions...

Referring to the FB post, and not yours, which you replied

my guess is stock since he mentions his dealer not being happy..but do not know for sure...maybe he will update with details

My bad for assuming that you understood that I was referring to the FB Post, and not yours, in this thread... For that I do, sincerely, appologize.


Personally I think the stand up thing would have been to not try and immediately discredit the post...but you threw a lot of what if's but never once said that it looked like a failed Polaris belt. Then another mod steps in and says that it doesn't even look like a Polaris. You were sitting on the thread....did it look like a Polaris to you? Did you speak up?

Yes... looked like a Polaris to me... Driving back from the SLC show to N. Idaho... I did not check back on that thread from my 3g.. till I had WiFi at the hotel this morning but you had already deleted your thread.

Brandon, When a member who posts mostly in another brand section posts up something like this, looking like they are fishing for "gotchas"... It makes me wonder about the intent of the thread in the first place.

What would you think if I came into the Ski Doo Section and posted up something that might lead others to believe that something was defective in the new XM design with only a FB post as my reason?
Try to see it from my perspective if you can.

That added to some people asking why I (or other mods) pulled your thread ...when you actually pulled it... has me clarifying this.

Yes you did not flat out deny it...but seems like you went along way to discredit it. Your clever with your words...have you been watching Trump speak lately?

Careful with words certainly... why get personal and compare me to Trump?? I DID put up my doubts.. and also said it WAS possible.

I work very hard, as a volunteer on here, trying my best to be helpful and courteous to people and also try to keep this a good place for people to find help and good information.

If a sled left the demo with stripped teeth/cogs on a belt and Polaris did not even know about...how do we know what kind of condition the others are in. Maybe nobody has even checked or noticed?


Interestingly I started the same thread on several forums...not one of them turned into the chit show that this is.....a tone that you set.

If I did create a negative tone... certainly not my intent... and again, I apologize to anyone who took it that way.


my guess is a dealer or log bent the under belly....brace should be a simple fix

Could be... We still don't know the full story behind the stripped teeth.
If anyone on here knows Kyle, the original FB poster... Please invite him to chime in on this thread with pics and his experiences.

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[IQ?]

Cant belive Grown ups (?) Have blown BeltDrives as a avatar??
I mean come on some will blow most wont...(Just like chains)
With all the punishment we put to the demos i have high confidence
in the belt drive.
When i se the first T-motion snap i will use it for avatar too...

 

[HighmarkerX]

In reference to Jkinzer post, the sled looks likes a 2012 Pro. So, how did the guy get a belt drive system on it? I thought the parts were not available yet. Also maybe it was not installed correctly? Maybe the guy damaged the belt during install. I

 

[tudizzle]

I'm done with the quote thing but I will address you statements MH


If I was trying to start something I would have titled the thread


"PineCone destroys belt drive"

Don't remember you standing up for Doo during those days?


I just posted a pic I found...and even expressed that I hoped it wasn't a trend. How is that a "gotcha" thread?


Not sure why my post patterns matter....or why you would even research that? Trying to dig up dirt to discredit me now that the picture is real? If you must know I have been contracted to complete a project on the Pro Motor. It is a stop animation Movie and I have been spending hours leaning over one...so naturally my interest has been peaked.


You stated a dozen reasons why the belt may have failed...called it a spoof...and then at the very end said it is not probably but possible. Only 3 days later do you even admit that is is a Polaris!


Comparing your to Trump was wrong...I have no idea what kind of hair you have...if any...but it sure felt like I walked into a tea party convention with Obamas birth certificate.



I wouldn't think Kyle(owner of the sled) would show up with the tone that has been set here.


If someone has a problem with the XM skid...and I am sure it will not be problem free...we as consumers want to know about it. I have no vested interest in Skidoo and I will not go out of my way to discredit the post.

I think your polaris blinders has effected your judgment on this situation.



I also openly admitted to closing the thread and stated my reasons...wasn't a secret and I also provided that info on other forums so people would not blame SW.



I'm done here...this has become some fawked up pissing match that has no end or meaning....just another distraction. Besides I have a massive bladder.



HAve a good winter

diz out!

 

[polaris dude]

cmx belt drive?
Thats assuming it is a 2012 not a 2013

 

[mountainhorse]

Wow... what an emotional thread.

I'd still like to get more info before anyone here jumps to conclusions about the durability based on a pic posted on FB.

Had a log jammed in the tunnel at the front on a 2013 for a good 30 minutes (I think Phatty put it there, ha)... on a demo with no issues.

I'm a born skeptic, regardless of the brand.

Life is good, pray for snow and have some fun.

 

[Oregonsledder]

Wow... what an emotional thread.

I'd still like to get more info before anyone here jumps to conclusions about the durability based on a pic posted on FB.

Had a log jammed in the tunnel at the front on a 2013 for a good 30 minutes (I think Phatty put it there, ha)... on a demo with no issues.

I'm a born skeptic, regardless of the brand.

Life is good, pray for snow and have some fun.

MH hopefully this will be a lesson to future posters regardless of brand loyalty or where they mainly post. The lesson should be, if you have the specifics of an issue with a new technology then post it, but be mindful that if you are a Doo rider and mainly post in the Doo section, your motives for posting without many facts will be under scrutiny. The same would be true if a Polaris guy like me was to post some little bit of info on a Proclimb new feature in the Cat section. I suspect people who watch this forum as a whole would question my motives.

 

[icerider600]

Ok, this is what I am takin from this thread, Tudizzle YOU SUCK!!!! You got to ride already, I am so jealous!!!!!

 

[Oregonsledder]

Ok, this is what I am takin from this thread, Tudizzle YOU SUCK!!!! You got to ride already, I am so jealous!!!!!

Dallas I hope you get many deep and steep days this winter!

 

[skibreeze]

Ok, this is what I am takin from this thread, Tudizzle YOU SUCK!!!! You got to ride already, I am so jealous!!!!!

Where do you get that? Only riding he has done yet is the couch.

 

[trackvs2wheels]

Where do you get that? Only riding he has done yet is the couch.

Na uh...I saw him riding his pink moped the other day heading to Sprouts...

 

[Bocephus]

was there a yo' mama joke at the beginning of this thread? MAN YOU GUYS ARE WORKED UP! worried your polarass belt drive is going to be an "exploding" failure?

we can start a new motto......"polaris: if our 800s arent exploding, our new drive belts are!"

 

[granto]

8 miles on belt drive and it ripped cogs

I was riding with my buddy first time out went 8 miles and ripped a third of the cogs off just like the pics in the other post. Just wondering if it is becoming a problem. I was looking at trading my 12 assault but worried that it will be a problem on these new pros. How many have had these fail or no of any failures.

 

[IEATSRT]

Well this is the third I've heard of. There are already a couple threads going on about this issue, don't see the need to start a new one. Lots of info on belt handling techniques and propper break in. Propper break in is crucial... have a read on the other threads you'll find all your answers.

 

[paulharris]

just a thought here: it could be possible that if the driveshaft end is coming loose (bad glue) from the main driveshaft tube and creating a wobble effect therefore creating a moment of slack on the belt and stripping the cogs. if this is the case the driveshaft could be the main culprit here, not the belts.