Here in Wisconsin we allow ATV's on the certain trails and the temp must be 28 degrees or colder. We as a club are funded for grooming based on what type of trails we have. My club personally grooms our trails for Snowmobile and ATV and are funded by the state at a higher rate then a snowmobile only trail. As for tearing up the trail its about equal on who tears a trail up when they ride. A guy on a wheeler can fishtale and rut it up, and so does the guy who is a throttle jock on a sled. As to who is a better driver is any bodys guess cause I've seen bad sled drivers along with ATV drivers. I've been almost hit by both. I also ride both on our trails, its just what I decide to ride for the day do I want a fairly fast trail ride or a slower ATV ride. But either way its a blast. Sorry guys I just had to give my $.02
ATV's on Sled trails????
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Montana its illegal. They can sure mess up trails.
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Dobber1
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Idaho has a bill in the senate, to make it up to each county, if roads are open or closed. Some counties already declared it illegal (like Boise County), others don't want to face a legal challenge.
The laws in Idaho say that atv's are not allowed on any groomed trails. They are allowed on all non-groomed trails and off road on snow but they must purchase a snowmoobile regisatration besides their atv registration.
Is this the same DallanC from monster muleys????
I think you guys are right, here in Utah it is ok to take them out. We still send out our rental ATV's in the fall up until the close the gates usually around thanksgiving and then start sending them out again around the first couple weeks of April when the start opening up the gates. I don't ever send the ATV's out once the gates are closed. Just sleds at that point.
we all ride our ATV's all winter but most people around here stay in areas were the snows low and no sledders go.
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Rock Star
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Kinda good point there, MTsledder. we in Utah have zillions of miles to ride ATVs all year. The groomed access trail I wondered about yesterday is closed to cars via a gate unually from mid November to June 1st due to heavy snow. that's why I asked. With so much other great terrain, why would someone on an ATV go rut up a sled trail when it is purely a sled trail and access only to back country deep riding? If it was bullet proof I could drive all the way to Bear River service by ATV from Soapstone but it better stay hard. If it gets warm or hit by sun this time of year... sunk! lol.
Last year someone with a small 4WD truck was all the way up to mm26 at Trial Lake. STUCK to the doors, snowed a foot on it too. CA tags. they were NOT getting out. we posed next to it. HA.. oops! GOT TOW BILL?
Last year someone with a small 4WD truck was all the way up to mm26 at Trial Lake. STUCK to the doors, snowed a foot on it too. CA tags. they were NOT getting out. we posed next to it. HA.. oops! GOT TOW BILL?
I think if atv's were outfitted with a set of tracks that should be allowed....makes it not wheeled anymore!
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mod03rmk800
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Makes me wonder if two atv's with track kits could pass each other with some of the widths of groomed trails here? Then the can of worms gets opened for trucks with tracks.
You are right, but I believe ATV's and snowmobiles are in the same category. They are not approved for highway use in most areas. But I agree that we do NOT need trucks on any trails! And any ATV with tracks should be required to buy the same permit the sleds do.
in mn it's not legal because of width. sled is 48" max i belive
As noted above in South Dakota it is illegal to run ATVs on sled trails. However, last year or the year before Kim Raap did a study for one of the snowmobile associations comparing sled wear on groomed trails to ATV wear on trails. His summation was that ATV's don't tear up trails any worse than mountain sleds with 2" - 2.5" paddles.
Two comments on sleds vs ATVS. 1) While I don't care to share my trails with ATVs, an ATV on snow is just like a sled on snow. When the snow melts no (or minimal) damage is left. ATVs on dirt are a whole 'nother thing. 2) I don't think we want to get in a pi$$ing contest with ATVs. There's a whole lot more of them then there are of us.
Two comments on sleds vs ATVS. 1) While I don't care to share my trails with ATVs, an ATV on snow is just like a sled on snow. When the snow melts no (or minimal) damage is left. ATVs on dirt are a whole 'nother thing. 2) I don't think we want to get in a pi$$ing contest with ATVs. There's a whole lot more of them then there are of us.
I disagree with ATV less damaging on trails than sleds. Maybe if it was a good hard packed trail possibley. But they usually dig and tear up alot of the trails
Seen them with the tracks and rut just as bad as the tires. Might as well save yourself some money and run paddles.
I was up by Soap and Mirror Lake sunday as well and I saw some utility type ATVs up there that had torn the trail up a little bit.. but about a month ago I saw some tards up at Timber Lakes with their YFZ450s with paddles and everything flying up the trail 
Good point different reason
2) I don't think we want to get in a pi$$ing contest with ATVs. There's a whole lot more of them then there are of us.[/QUOTE]
When it comes to fighting the anti's orv is orv. I don't like running into the guy's on quads who are inconsiderent or just way out of their element (tearing stuff up where they shouldn't be) other than that I don't mind passing them on the trail. Also like em or not it's good to have their vote when our land is being taken from us, IMO.
2) I don't think we want to get in a pi$$ing contest with ATVs. There's a whole lot more of them then there are of us.[/QUOTE]
When it comes to fighting the anti's orv is orv. I don't like running into the guy's on quads who are inconsiderent or just way out of their element (tearing stuff up where they shouldn't be) other than that I don't mind passing them on the trail. Also like em or not it's good to have their vote when our land is being taken from us, IMO.
ATV's on sled trails
It is illegal in Montana to ride them on groomed trails. I chewed on a couple of guys for riding up Spring Creek Sunday. They called the FS office to complain about it yesterday and told my wife who was with me they a couple of snowmobilers had ran them off the road. They started to back peddle when she told them that was not the case (she was right behind me when I flagged them down). The tracked 4-wheelers are the next issue we will be dealing with.
It is illegal in Montana to ride them on groomed trails. I chewed on a couple of guys for riding up Spring Creek Sunday. They called the FS office to complain about it yesterday and told my wife who was with me they a couple of snowmobilers had ran them off the road. They started to back peddle when she told them that was not the case (she was right behind me when I flagged them down). The tracked 4-wheelers are the next issue we will be dealing with.
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