that’s one thing that always baffled me. When the proclimb came out and had issues in 2012 they were never allowed to live it down, at least on the internet, even though they were pretty solid sleds by 2014 and just got better from there. Even after the ascender came out people were still bad mouthing them for the 2012 issues. Yet Polaris has been building less than reliable engines for years and then the stacks of recalls in recent years, or the belt eating issues when the doo 850 came out and aside from the guys who personally experienced the issues, not much was said.