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Alpha Review - Rob Snowest YT video

Chewy22

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Cool video to watch. Rob is dead right on how you need to ride the Alpha. I was ready to switch to a twin rail but decided to give it one more season. Decompressed over the summer, taking a slower approach and learning to ride the sled versus making it ride like the older sleds. I had so much damn fun on the Alpha this first trip out. It’s exactly like having to learn to ride all over again but the technic is coming on faster. The biggest mistake you can do is trying to ride it like a twin rail. Not going to work and only going to make you frustrated. Can’t wait to get back out.
 
I agree.
First sled I've owned that that i need less throttle input. I am so use to going full throttle everywhere. With the Alpha, track speed is much closer to ground speed than other snowmobiles. U go full throttle and ur hauling Azz.


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I have a buddie that has a alpha, people ask him if he likes it, and he says he loves it, but at the end off the day he complains how tired he is, and I'm thinking , your sled is supposed to be easier to ride than my pro but your exausted more than me,what's up with that?
 
I have a buddie that has a alpha, people ask him if he likes it, and he says he loves it, but at the end off the day he complains how tired he is, and I'm thinking , your sled is supposed to be easier to ride than my pro but your exausted more than me,what's up with that?
That is relative to the physical shape of all people involved. Alpha definitely takes less energy to ride but u can't be lazy when ur riding aggressive.
That being said I can side Hill sitting down.

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I’m in the market so this was a good watch.
I can’t find much commented about trail/groomed or ungroomed manners.
I’m used to my proclimb not being so friendly. Is it similar?


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I’m in the market so this was a good watch.
I can’t find much commented about trail/groomed or ungroomed manners.
I’m used to my proclimb not being so friendly. Is it similar?


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Very similar on the trail other than smelling the hifax and track melting.

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I have a buddie that has a alpha, people ask him if he likes it, and he says he loves it, but at the end off the day he complains how tired he is, and I'm thinking , your sled is supposed to be easier to ride than my pro but your exausted more than me,what's up with that?
I just made this post somewhere else too. It's easier to ride in hard terrain but harder to ride in easy terrain. By that I mean you need to 'ride' it all day. You can't just cruise around absentmindedly or sit on the seat and steer the bars. It has a real tendency to find any hole or soft spot in the snow and wants to follow the fall line of the terrain. I came from Skidoo and they had much better trail manners as well as much better downhill descent line manners. Personally I love the Alpha and only miss the Doo on those big deep descents and at the end of the day going back to the truck.
 
I’m in the market so this was a good watch.
I can’t find much commented about trail/groomed or ungroomed manners.
I’m used to my proclimb not being so friendly. Is it similar?


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"most of these guys in the Midwest have probably been in tractor for 300hrs the last week and a half and all they can think about is the first snow storm" ?‍♂️ guilty! LOL.

To answer your question- If you don't think the proclimb is trail friendly you're not probably gonna like the Alpha on the trail either. I haven't rode one on the trail so I don't know, but haven't really heard any BAD about them compared to a twin rail, regardless its not a trail sled and not gonna handle like one.

I finally had the chance to ride an Alpha a few weeks ago and loved it. It didn't feel the way I thought it would feel(like at all), which was weird. One would never guess its a single rail skid by just riding it, to me it was just another sled that rolled over well and got insane traction and lift. Super cool how it gets on the snow and goes. Extremely easy to ride. I only rode it in deep snow, so I have no idea how it works on hard pack, but I never felt like it was out of control, was able to just ride it VERY similar to how I ride my AXYS, took virtually zero time to figure out how to ride it. Hop on a Gen 4 if you've never rode one and you basically have to totally change the way you ride. Not the case with the Alpha.

Rob is correct to a certain extent, yes the sled is so easy to ride that you need to slow down, but at the same point these new sleds beg to be ridden aggressively, you have to be on top of your game- they are so sensitive to every move you make and go wherever your body tells them to go.
 
I have a buddie that has a alpha, people ask him if he likes it, and he says he loves it, but at the end off the day he complains how tired he is, and I'm thinking , your sled is supposed to be easier to ride than my pro but your exausted more than me,what's up with that?
I rented 2 different alphas last year. The first one was an absolute blast and I wasn't tired at all at the end of the day. The second one felt really front end heavy and my shoulders and upper back were just dead at the end of the day. They were both 154" so the only difference had to have been suspension setup, it was crazy how big of a difference it was. I'd definitely suggest your buddy play around with shock pressures.
 
I just made this post somewhere else too. It's easier to ride in hard terrain but harder to ride in easy terrain. By that I mean you need to 'ride' it all day. You can't just cruise around absentmindedly or sit on the seat and steer the bars. It has a real tendency to find any hole or soft spot in the snow and wants to follow the fall line of the terrain. I came from Skidoo and they had much better trail manners as well as much better downhill descent line manners. Personally I love the Alpha and only miss the Doo on those big deep descents and at the end of the day going back to the truck.

I've only got about 100 miles on my alpha, but so far I kinda agree with this. There's times where it just feels effortless to ride then I've started noticing there's times where I feel like it takes more effort than I remember my last sled ('14 m8) taking. Mostly slight off camber stuff with firmer snow, seems like it wants to go to the down hill side more.
 
Firm snow and Alpha are not a great combination for sure. I prefer the twin rail on firm snow. Not just because of the 2 rails but also because the Alpha track is way too soft. It doesn't bite in the firm snow.

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It took me some time to get used to my alpha, I kept flipping it upside down from putting in "normal" effort like required on other sleds, I can now hop onto a doo or pro rmk and ride it as if I never left. But hopping on the alpha was different, For me it was learning to input less effort for sure. and you don't need to counter steer no longer. Last weekend I let my buddy who rides a doo try my alpha, in a meadow with some decently fresh now he flopped the sled over twice because your used to putting in so much effort when it takes half the effort many times.... when these respond well from even just weight change between feet.

I'm far from great like many are, but ridden my whole life. I haven't come off some stock sleds prior to this, But so far I'm loving the confidence and line holding this sled will do, The fact of how easy it is to get over, hold over, and recover if bumped back over really puts trust in what im doing and where I'm going. I'm loving tree riding that much more now,no longer is it a struggle and tiring which is making me a better rider.

Spring riding, I picked my alpha up last late march, it was hard spring snow, and yeah she drifted around and slid around, I can understand how the twin rail will "bite" in. But that said I still went and got around just like everybody else, When the snow's like that your not the only one struggling regardless, snows hard as a rock lol....
 
Haha I was trying this today! I was thinking, man this is physically easier and it rides like a motorcycle!
I've been doing since 2004.(zx chassis)
I really like to do it on a hill after watching people struggle sidehilling... kind of a d!ck move but it is funny. Well i laugh anyway...[emoji1787]

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Great tips and especially agreed with the end when he talked about how segregated we have become as a snowmobile community. A lot of people only ride with their buddies that ride the same brand and bash anybody that doesn't. I miss the days of riding because it's fun. I rode snowbikes for a couple seasons and it was even worse. If you weren't on a KTM you were considered to be on a downer cow brand. I got rid of mine and came back to sleds. I grew up on Skidoos, rode Yamaha's through the 80-90's and swapped to Cat after 7 years of trying to herd an RX-1M around the mountains. I still want to ride Polaris's for a few years because I haven't yet. I just want to have fun out there and couldn't give two ****s about what anyone else rides as long as they are out there to have fun as well.
 
If brand "X" offered anybody tons of cash to ride their brand and only hang out with the brand everyone would do it. When it comes to making a living and providing for family the money takes over every time, no reason to put someone down. If Rob was offered Chris's deal he would accept it hands down.
 
If brand "X" offered anybody tons of cash to ride their brand and only hang out with the brand everyone would do it. When it comes to making a living and providing for family the money takes over every time, no reason to put someone down. If Rob was offered Chris's deal he would accept it hands down.
I don't think he's saying anything negative about Chris or "his deal" I think he's more getting at how ridiculous it is that brand bias has gotten so bad now that he can't just load up and go ride with someone like burandt just because they work for/ride different brands.
 
What exactly is chris’ “deal”? I’d be shocked if anyone worked harder than him and his crew at what they do. It appears well earned from the outside.
 
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