858 Ripping

[Chad_Brochill]

You guys say, "left on the table" like they just forgot about it or didn't perform enough dyno runs to locate the perform being found by tuners. I've got to believe the 858 was tuned specially to meet emissions requirements and that is why the aftermarket, WHICH DOESN'T HAVE TO MEET EMISSIONS, is finding additional power.


If arctic cat is putting out another tune, I can guarantee there will be minimal performance gain. No matter how many tunes they put out, they still have to meet the epa requirements.

The EPA is such a crutch on every single automotive vehicle manufacturer, and it keeps getting worse and worse. I especially wish they didn't regulate powersports as heavily.

Also, the same happened with the 9R I heard though. Polaris left a lot on the table the first year the motor was out and really stepped it up the next year.

Not to mention the 9R had massive fueling issues causing the knock and eventual spark plug failures. It was funny too when that happened. People were blaming NGK spark plugs for breaking, but Polaris uses a BPR9ES spark plug. Which to my knowledge was used in the Polaris 850's and the boost's as well as the CTEC 2 Cat's and none of them had issues. Just a bit of trivia I guess.

 

[NHRoadking]

The EPA is such a crutch on every single automotive vehicle manufacturer, and it keeps getting worse and worse. I especially wish they didn't regulate powersports as heavily.

Also, the same happened with the 9R I heard though. Polaris left a lot on the table the first year the motor was out and really stepped it up the next year.

Not to mention the 9R had massive fueling issues causing the knock and eventual spark plug failures. It was funny too when that happened. People were blaming NGK spark plugs for breaking, but Polaris uses a BPR9ES spark plug. Which to my knowledge was used in the Polaris 850's and the boost's as well as the CTEC 2 Cat's and none of them had issues. Just a bit of trivia I guess.

Seems like a balance can be struck between having clean air and water and sleds that rip!

 

[arcticridr]

Thinking by watching some of the guys riding the 858 is their is more clutching left on the table than anything if ya have one best look at the primary and see how much of it is being used mite surprise you how much clutch tuning is left on the table then work on the mapping etc !!

 

[Chad_Brochill]

Thinking by watching some of the guys riding the 858 is their is more clutching left on the table than anything if ya have one best look at the primary and see how much of it is being used mite surprise you how much clutch tuning is left on the table then work on the mapping etc !!i

Thinking by watching some of the guys riding the 858 is their is more clutching left on the table than anything if ya have one best look at the primary and see how much of it is being used mite surprise you how much clutch tuning is left on the table then work on the mapping etc !!

I watched the Snowest podcast with Ibexx and Black Diamond/SSI and they were making really good gains with both of their clutch kits. They were using multiple angle helixes as well.

When I pick up a catalyst I will likely be getting some sort of ecu tuning and clutching package from a reputable company.

 

[1962Cat]

Broke almost every sled in that way and never had problems. Usually hit Cooke early with down to the dirt and no base. Turns out you get no where without throttle in that. Turns out mine has the same warranty whether it's full or half. Gotta love the internet. Everyone wants you to do what they're doing to justify in their mind it's ok.

Looks like you can afford to replace your sled every year, and the guy who gets owns it after you gets a POS that will have engine failure.

 

[turboless terry]

Looks like you can afford to replace your sled every year, and the guy who gets owns it after you gets a POS that will have engine failure.

I've sold them to buddies, which is the absolute worst if something happens. They've been stellar except a polaris 800 years ago. Crank went out the next year. Standard back then. I sold an 07 xrs, broke in at Cooke like that. It outlasted most. Most went by a 1000. Mine went at 1600 when my buddy's girlfriend got it hot. She didn't know any better. When I sold that sled, the guy that bought it made it 3 miles and blew up. He called me not expecting anything. Told him to hang tuff for a minute and I'll make some calls. I got doo to goodwill a grand and I ate the rest. He had to pull motor and ship to my buddy. That is what I needed to sleep telling him sled ran stellar. How many people would do that? Trying to portray me as a scumbag doesn't fly because I'm not. That guy was so happy he sent me a Christmas card. Have a nice day!

 

[BeartoothBaron]

I've sold them to buddies, which is the absolute worst if something happens. They've been stellar except a polaris 800 years ago. Crank went out the next year. Standard back then. I sold an 07 xrs, broke in at Cooke like that. It outlasted most. Most went by a 1000. Mine went at 1600 when my buddy's girlfriend got it hot. She didn't know any better. When I sold that sled, the guy that bought it made it 3 miles and blew up. He called me not expecting anything. Told him to hang tuff for a minute and I'll make some calls. I got doo to goodwill a grand and I ate the rest. He had to pull motor and ship to my buddy. That is what I needed to sleep telling him sled ran stellar. How many people would do that? Trying to portray me as a scumbag doesn't fly because I'm not. That guy was so happy he sent me a Christmas card. Have a nice day!

Chilly says that's the kind of thing poor people do...



Couldn't resist! And I still can't decide if this place is more or less fun with him (apparently) staying away.

 

[turboless terry]

Chilly says that's the kind of thing poor people do...



Couldn't resist! And I still can't decide if this place is more or less fun with him (apparently) staying away.

I've just been putting a rock in my shoes until he comes back.

 

[koolaid]

Got a good second ride on the 858 today. It's out of break-in with nearly 40 miles on it. Sled revs easily to 8100-8200 with stock clutching. Really liking the suspension on trail, that being due to finally figuring out how to switch between my two driver set-ups (suspension) on the G8. Although it was a little risky, did lots more boondocking off trail. It is going to be a great climbing machine!

Added some air to the FTS as it was only at 40psi. Going to add the Diamond S can tmrw. One of the guys I was riding with had one on his Catalyst and I honestly could not tell he had a can till he told me.