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5 Mountain rides in, pros and cons

Could it be super deep anywhere? Alaska maybe? It’s super d….pressing here. Oh please baby Jesus kill El Niño and let it snow! I wanna ride and ski and run rivers with no fires. Yours truly charlie
 
More importantly, where was this super deep snow at 10,000'?!!!
Mid December CO. We had 6’ fresh that has now condensed to a 40” base. He is a decent rider but is used to the doo turbo R. I know of 2 locals with 600’s and they one come out for the perfect conditions.
 
So dude was in early season, outta shape, first ride, light fluffy sooooooper deep snow, no base, 154” track, 600 cc’s, 10,000 feet and he’s disappointed? Understandable. Prolly would been faster to just walk in those conditions. Haha
 
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Lots of 165 turbo conversions on social media. I think it’s a bit steep. I talked kinda by accident to one turbo fabricator and all though his set up was really thorough and beautifully done it was 6400 us. That isn’t the end of the world money but it isn’t throw away either. I’d guess the new 858 or a competitors turbo would be more cost effective? I d actually do it for fun in a couple of years if I get better at riding if it was more around 3k lol. Seems like it’s hard to pencil out right now and lots of variables, Nevermind catastrophic failures…
 
Lots of 165 turbo conversions on social media. I think it’s a bit steep. I talked kinda by accident to one turbo fabricator and all though his set up was really thorough and beautifully done it was 6400 us. That isn’t the end of the world money but it isn’t throw away either. I’d guess the new 858 or a competitors turbo would be more cost effective? I d actually do it for fun in a couple of years if I get better at riding if it was more around 3k lol. Seems like it’s hard to pencil out right now and lots of variables, Nevermind catastrophic failures…
Charlie, ya been a free member for 6 years now. It’s like 30 bones for a lifetime membership. If ya ain’t spending 30 bux to get rid of ads, ya ain’t buyin no turbo in this lifetime. You too cheap. haha
 
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Lots of 165 turbo conversions on social media. I think it’s a bit steep. I talked kinda by accident to one turbo fabricator and all though his set up was really thorough and beautifully done it was 6400 us. That isn’t the end of the world money but it isn’t throw away either. I’d guess the new 858 or a competitors turbo would be more cost effective? I d actually do it for fun in a couple of years if I get better at riding if it was more around 3k lol. Seems like it’s hard to pencil out right now and lots of variables, Nevermind catastrophic failures…
From what I've seen you get what you pay for on aftermarket forced induction kits. There are some of the cheaper ones that run ok, but it seems to be a crap shoot. Silber on one friend's Ski-Doo runs good 80-90% of the time. Silber on a friend's Polaris ran good 50% of the time and he finally sold it.

Personally, I'd keep the 600 stock and upgrade sleds when ready for more.
 
From what I've seen you get what you pay for on aftermarket forced induction kits. There are some of the cheaper ones that run ok, but it seems to be a crap shoot. Silber on one friend's Ski-Doo runs good 80-90% of the time. Silber on a friend's Polaris ran good 50% of the time and he finally sold it.

Personally, I'd keep the 600 stock and upgrade sleds when ready for more.
I feel like these aftermarket turbos just cannot compete reliability/runability wise with the factory systems. I'm not going to try to act like I know what I'm talking about but it seems that Polaris and Doo figured out how to monitor and control pipe pressure electronically through the wastegate(out the side of the pipe on the Polaris) vs most aftermarket kits just running a mechanical wastegate. That kind of seems to be the magic that makes them work so well. I think Force turbos actually has a similar setup now. I assume Polaris and Doo are running far more sensors than on the NA machine to help in making proper fueling changes on the fly? Aftermarket is just working with whats there on the NAs.

Every aftermarket turbo I have been around has some quirks, misses, starting issues, or terrible bogs. Amazing to me that these factory systems work (mostly) flawlessly and can run like 9lbs of boost on pump gas.
 
I feel like these aftermarket turbos just cannot compete reliability/runability wise with the factory systems. I'm not going to try to act like I know what I'm talking about but it seems that Polaris and Doo figured out how to monitor and control pipe pressure electronically through the wastegate(out the side of the pipe on the Polaris) vs most aftermarket kits just running a mechanical wastegate. That kind of seems to be the magic that makes them work so well. I think Force turbos actually has a similar setup now. I assume Polaris and Doo are running far more sensors than on the NA machine to help in making proper fueling changes on the fly? Aftermarket is just working with whats there on the NAs.

Every aftermarket turbo I have been around has some quirks, misses, starting issues, or terrible bogs. Amazing to me that these factory systems work (mostly) flawlessly and can run like 9lbs of boost on pump gas.

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Oh man I didn’t realize i had been on here six years! That’s embarrassing! I am still terrible at snowmobiling! Oh well! Between two kids in college and boats and cats and my money being worth less now , I spent my turbo money lol. I hope someday to stay least experience deep snow like the movies and see what the turbo guys do . I allways thought forums where free lol! I’ll subscribe and pay even though usually no one really helps me just makes fun of me or someone else somehow’!
 
Oh man I didn’t realize i had been on here six years! That’s embarrassing! I am still terrible at snowmobiling! Oh well! Between two kids in college and boats and cats and my money being worth less now , I spent my turbo money lol. I hope someday to stay least experience deep snow like the movies and see what the turbo guys do . I allways thought forums where free lol! I’ll subscribe and pay even though usually no one really helps me just makes fun of me or someone else somehow’!
It’s not membership shaming at all so no need to haul off and get one. It was more poking fun at ya! And don’t worry about the tree riding experts. I’ll never do that in my life after 25 years of sledding. Fat old No motivation
 
I feel like saying a 600 at 10k in deep snow is disappointing isn't stirring the chit... it's a given lol
Y’all are missing my question. I made a statement and asked if anyone had their catalyst out in hood deep pow because I know boost will fix the sever lack of power. How boggy is it? How well does it climb on the snow?
 
Oh man I didn’t realize i had been on here six years! That’s embarrassing! I am still terrible at snowmobiling! Oh well! Between two kids in college and boats and cats and my money being worth less now , I spent my turbo money lol. I hope someday to stay least experience deep snow like the movies and see what the turbo guys do . I allways thought forums where free lol! I’ll subscribe and pay even though usually no one really helps me just makes fun of me or someone else somehow’!
The best mountain riders on a NA stock sled will easily outride most riders in any conditions and especially when it’s deep.
Muskoka and Caleb get up terrain in deep conditions on NA sleds 90% of us would not get up no matter what we were riding, a turbo would make the crashes and fails more spectacular though😂
A turboed sled can improve the capability of good riders but IMO will get inexperienced riders in trouble.
Bottom line is a turbo will not compensate for lack of skill in most situations.
 
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