3' Track to soft?

[rulonjj]

Doo's stock springs and valving sucks. That's a part of the reason why it is wheeling. Also it's pretty obvious in the video that they are trying to get it to wheelie at times. They certainly aren't trying to keep the front down. If you didn't notice, their feet are back on the boards quite a bit. You said the only way to control wheelies is with an aftermarket skid. On a stock powered sled that isn't true. A few adjustments, heavier springs combined with better valving will do the job quite well. Unless of course this new engine from Doo makes an ungodly amount of torque and power, in that case you'd be right, sorta. But throw an arc or a coupling block on a stock skid and it would control it too.

 

[kanedog]

I agree on 10% of your thoughts. 90% is wrong.
I am aware he is trying to wheelie. I get that. If you have a ton of experience with steep hills in spring snow and you watch the video it is plain to see that the sled is borderline out of control in some situations. Doing wheelies and making squiggly lines uo a hill looks good to thr uneducated and unknowledgeable. He is able to control it because he is a good rider. A less skilled rider us gonna wreck easily.
You are wrong when you say that it can be fixed with revalving and other el cheapo half azzed bolt on junk. Only a coupled skid will fix that Frenchican jumping bean of a sled.
You have obviously never ridden a coupled susoension if you think a skinz arc will rock. Skinz arc is a good idea in theory but it's just a trinket for suckers to buy.

 

[summ8rmk]

I like wheelies, they're much more fun than having both skis on the ground all of the time like a Polaris. I hate coupled skids, they're for hill climbers, I'm a mountain rider. If i can't get that front end up real fast to make quick changes in direction or pop up over a creek i wouldn't have near as much fun. That being said, too much wheelie is not so fun also. That G4 looks a little out of control at times. I don't think an entire rear skid is needed to make it controllable.?
Maybe?
With the deep snow vids and the spring snow vids out there, i think we can all agree that the track is a good all around track.

GS6

 

[Insaneboltrounder/sjohns]

I agree on 10% of your thoughts. 90% is wrong.
I am aware he is trying to wheelie. I get that. If you have a ton of experience with steep hills in spring snow and you watch the video it is plain to see that the sled is borderline out of control in some situations. Doing wheelies and making squiggly lines uo a hill looks good to thr uneducated and unknowledgeable. He is able to control it because he is a good rider. A less skilled rider us gonna wreck easily.
You are wrong when you say that it can be fixed with revalving and other el cheapo half azzed bolt on junk. Only a coupled skid will fix that Frenchican jumping bean of a sled.
You have obviously never ridden a coupled susoension if you think a skinz arc will rock. Skinz arc is a good idea in theory but it's just a trinket for suckers to buy.

Borderline out of control ..... Best line of the week if that's out of control you should stay in the parking lot

 

[Deep Powder Guy]

The biggest mistake a lot of guys do when they powder rider/mountain ride is they let the limiter strap all the way out ... Doing so will cause the front end to come up every time.

DPG

 

[kanedog]

Borderline out of control ..... Best line of the week if that's out of control you should stay in the parking lot

It's obvious that you have no idea what to look for in that vid.
There are parts of the vid, very few mind you, that if you watch closely you will see the sled taking the rider where the sled wants to go, not the other way around. He is a good rider so he was able to anticipate the outofcontrolness coming on. The part I'm describing riding is where he pops over the top of hill. Watch and learn suckas.
Coupled skids are not only for hillclimbers but they are for people who want better deep snow flotation and 109% better Trail ride on whooped out stuff. It's a hard pill to swallow as they are so spendy but once you get one, you won't ride stock skids, ever.

 

[Copex9]

I feel as if he was trying to get the sled to wheely. Looks like he was pulling on the bars, which doesnt really help, while giving it throttle and leaning back. To me he doesnt look like a great rider. He didnt control it well, and looked to just want to wheely a 165 up a hill to say he did, and ofc get it on vid to show everyone... I ordered a 154 as I can control mine pretty damn good already.

 

[rulonjj]

I like wheelies, they're much more fun than having both skis on the ground all of the time like a Polaris. I hate coupled skids, they're for hill climbers, I'm a mountain rider. If i can't get that front end up real fast to make quick changes in direction or pop up over a creek i wouldn't have near as much fun. That being said, too much wheelie is not so fun also. That G4 looks a little out of control at times. I don't think an entire rear skid is needed to make it controllable.?
Maybe?
With the deep snow vids and the spring snow vids out there, i think we can all agree that the track is a good all around track.

GS6

I agree 100%. There are controlled wheelies that help the sled stay maneuverable and light on its feet so to speak. And then there is to much wheelie, which this video dosen't have much of. A few times it was to much but that's to be expected with snow like that. Tons of traction. I would HATE to ride a coupled skid in that snow. Talk about not being able to maneuver very well.

 

[Ski-doo#1]

The video shows me how fun the sled will be next winter as I have said on other topics in this forum.

No need to argue about what the sled is gonna be good at, bad at, blah. This shows it is a good sled for hardpack.

if you want your sled to climb set it up accordingly, you don't need the aftermarket for this.

If you want your sled to be more nimble an uncoupled skid is better. we know that. This sled is meant for this not for hill climbing but yes set it up for hill climbing if that's what you want.

It seems the Polaris guys are confused... Also Polaris marketing team.

They claim "instantaneous lift" doesn't that require ski lift? Oh but now they claim it stays nice and planted for stability. I'm so confused which one does it do?

It's clear to me what the Doo is meant for.

 

[Teth-Air]

Remember your buying a deep powder sled. A stiff 3 inch paddle will have a tendency to dig a trench.

DPG

You are right and we saw trenching on the AXYS with the 2.6" and 3" tracks compared to the old 2.4" tracks. We did overcome most of it with suspension adjustments but it is still there somewhat.

 

[Deep Powder Guy]

The way some of you guys are complaining I have to ask ... Do you guys ever have fun when your riding ?

I always have fun riding even back in the day when trailing arms and steel skis were all there was .... Heck back in the day my seat after a day of deep powder riding was so wet it weighed almost as must as a new mountain sled.

Get over it and have fun there is not a bad sled on the market in any category.

DPG

 

[Scott]

The way some of you guys are complaining I have to ask ... Do you guys ever have fun when your riding ?

I always have fun riding even back in the day when trailing arms and steel skis were all there was .... Heck back in the day my seat after a day of deep powder riding was so wet it weighed almost as must as a new mountain sled.

Get over it and have fun there is not a bad sled on the market in any category.

DPG

I know, right?

 

[MountainJunkie]

This is my first post here and I felt this thread was as appropriate as any.

My wife and I saw these videos and a few others, looked into the design/guts of the sled and we wound up ordering 2 Summit X 165/3" models.

I can't speak for what other people want out of their sleds, but, this is absolutely what we're looking for. A stock sled that performs like this out of the box. We're going to add tunnel/rail reinforcements and other bracing but it's basically what we want these days.

We aren't changing the stock running boards,we are keeping the risers/handlebars, no moving switches off bars, no new tunnels and so on.