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Whistler (2000m) is forecasting a foot of snow this weekend. It's not over yet. Let's ride!!!
3' Track to soft?
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Whistler (2000m) is forecasting a foot of snow this weekend. It's not over yet. Let's ride!!!
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Does it seem odd that many who have ridden the prototypes have said it wheelies? Some may say it's the power, some may say it's the setup. I think the track design is really contributing to this. I wish doo would have offered two options, powder lite and the t3 track in 3.5" pitch. Hope I am wrong about the powder lite but history of the numerous track designs before it would lead me to believe otherwise.
Sorry going dirt biking in the sun, if a bit of precip comes saturday freezing level will be at 2200 meters, top of the mountain. I will be flying in some sleds to a much higher elevation later in the summer...but for now its mountain bike, trials, dirt biking and paddling and kiting until next pow day in November! Have a great summer!
The only thing the track has to do with the wheeling is hook up. I answered this question in a pm. Unfortunately there are a lot of guys who are making statements on the forums who can't or don't intend to buy a ski-doo, they also speak with their ego, so guys think they know a lot about the sled by just looking at it or just spending 20-40 minutes on the sled on a demo. I will just ask anyone who bought a new sled of any brand, were you riding that machine better a week after riding it over riding it in the first hour of ownership, the answer is a resounding YES! Many people want you to know they are a wicked rider so they will lead with, hey this track or specific part is no good, but they really have not spent any real amount of time. I have spent over 2000km on the g4 154 and 165, more on the 165 since it is the sled I prefer. The track on the G4 is better in every way and snow condition I have ridden in as I have been riding the G4 at specific times all winter...in early season, deep deep pow and spring boiler plate and spring shmoo....
The people who have snow checked will be very happy. For those who did not, you will of course still enjoy the wicked t3 or xm sleds or what ever other brand you ride. If you did purchase a G4 then ride it before doing any changes and you will see that the biggest thing you have to do these days is stop doing what you did in the past to a machine just because you did it in the past. The T3 and the G4 are two machines you really only need to add gas and oil to and go ride and have fun.
It may be better than the old 3' lug design. Packing more snow insted of crushing it with to many lugs. After testing the G4 vs T3 both 3' in the conditions we have now ( spring snow/ hard pack and trail) the old track easily outperform the new G4 track. G4 track is to soft. Maybe the 2.5 ' is stiffer but this is not an option up here in Scandinavia for some reason! And we have mostly hard pack snow all winter.
We all feel that we need to change the track for something stiffer. This track is not for anything other than deep powder. This is the fact. When riding G4 vs T3 at the same time there is no excuse.
We all feel that we need to change the track for something stiffer. This track is not for anything other than deep powder. This is the fact. When riding G4 vs T3 at the same time there is no excuse.
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Let's be specific about the Summit G4 3 inch track ... #1 it's a deep powder track designed to work in bottomless snow where it works at it's optimum .... The Summit G4 track works "well enough" in every other type of snow condition except for ice ... Is any 3 inch track optimum for hard pack snow ? No IMO.
#2 Now ask yourself what conditions you intend to be riding in most of the time. If your answer is not deep powder more the than 50% of the time maybe a 3 inch lug is not for you.
#3 Don't blame the track lug size ... blame yourself for not selecting the optimum track size for the riding you do most of the time.
If your car tires have highway tread all the way around how well do those tires work in the mud, snow and sand ?
DPG
#2 Now ask yourself what conditions you intend to be riding in most of the time. If your answer is not deep powder more the than 50% of the time maybe a 3 inch lug is not for you.
#3 Don't blame the track lug size ... blame yourself for not selecting the optimum track size for the riding you do most of the time.
If your car tires have highway tread all the way around how well do those tires work in the mud, snow and sand ?
DPG
Yep, looks like this track is just complete junk for spring snow.
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Yep, looks like this track is just complete junk for spring snow.
Holy cow, looks like a blast!
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Yep, looks like this track is just complete junk for spring snow.
Yeah! Time to sink another $1000 in it for a new track!
SIKE!! Cant wait for #plainjane to arrive!
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Excellent riding but Fack is that sled gonna be a tail standing trenching machine in pow.
It seems to utilize a whole 10.5" of the rear of track when under power. Argue with video, not me. It's plain and obvious for all to see. Even doorona is not that blind to see the issues.
You can't even blame Brp for the rear suspension as they have to design for the masses and not the 1% mountain rider segment. That being said, any serious mtn rider will change the rear suspension anyway and then the sled will be something. Might wanna look at the secondary as well.
It seems to utilize a whole 10.5" of the rear of track when under power. Argue with video, not me. It's plain and obvious for all to see. Even doorona is not that blind to see the issues.
You can't even blame Brp for the rear suspension as they have to design for the masses and not the 1% mountain rider segment. That being said, any serious mtn rider will change the rear suspension anyway and then the sled will be something. Might wanna look at the secondary as well.
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I see now that the soft durometer rumors have been nullified with video proof, we've begun to whine about a totally different part of an otherwise junk sled that hasn't even seen a true production run yet. Seriously people, get an effin hobby.
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Thing looks good to me!!!!!!!!! Im assuming that's a 165 in the video? Spring snow Im guessing any sled is going to have issues with front end in the air. I like! Have a 165 ordered and cant friggen wait!
Put enough hp on any sled and it's going wheely.
The poo boys would have you think it's just the saggy baggy teeter totter skid. Lol.
Please, be honest with yourself .... the rider on the vid WANTED the sled to go wheels up and actually TOOK all measures to point the nose to the sky.... Can't you see that?
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