Advice needed on what to do with stock clutches

[madmax]

TRS is the real deal. I hope you got the alignment bar. A lot of the sleds are coming way out of alignment from the factory. The TRS puts in perfect alignment.

 

[shattuck]

While I definitely highly recommend TRS on clutching.
Carls Cycle in Boise makes a good kit for the 850 if you’re on a budget and don’t want to re shim and all that. Not sure about shipping to Canada though.


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[GoBigParts]

Never hurts to get clutches balanced. I feel they run more efficient and last longer. Indy Dan has done my last 2 primaries.

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[Reddragon800]

If you want something that has been tested all over BC. (Revy, Blue River, Valemount and Mcbride.) I can help you out. I own Altitude power sports and can help with geardown and clutching option for your riding style, weight and elevation you ride out. No adjusting necessary. Just install and ride. Can reach me at 780-619-6872. Cheers, Ben.

 

[Eatstone]

If you want something that has been tested all over BC. (Revy, Blue River, Valemount and Mcbride.) I can help you out. I own Altitude power sports and can help with geardown and clutching option for your riding style, weight and elevation you ride out. No adjusting necessary. Just install and ride. Can reach me at 780-619-6872. Cheers, Ben.

Thanks Ben, I already ordered TRS kit. Ill reach out on my future upgrades.

 

[madmax]

Thanks Ben, I already ordered TRS kit. Ill reach out on my future upgrades.

If you need any help with the alignment…

 

[Eatstone]

TRS is the real deal. I hope you got the alignment bar. A lot of the sleds are coming way out of alignment from the factory. The TRS puts in perfect alignment.

The kit comes with the alignment bar. He also added a 2nd set of weights for the times we ride 9-10k. Lots of shims in the kit so I think I’ll enjoy tinkering on it. I almost enjoy that as much as riding.

 

[Eatstone]

Never hurts to get clutches balanced. I feel they run more efficient and last longer. Indy Dan has done my last 2 primaries.

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That was my initial thought as well, full PCC work over. Then the wife said we had some trips to plan and my sled fund shrank. I do want to add a new track so no addition clutch work.

 

[BigAir]

That was my initial thought as well, full PCC work over. Then the wife said we had some trips to plan and my sled fund shrank. I do want to add a new track so no addition clutch work.

If it was me, and what I'm doing, skip the lightening and just get the clutches balanced by TJ. That is $200 instead of $800. You could do the primary and secondary balance and machine work to lighten without the carbon and titanium for $400. Maybe you seen his options, but if not:

Clutch Service Form

 

[Eatstone]

If it was me, and what I'm doing, skip the lightening and just get the clutches balanced by TJ. That is $200 instead of $800. You could do the primary and secondary balance and machine work to lighten without the carbon and titanium for $400. Maybe you seen his options, but if not:

Clutch Service Form

That’s an option… but if I’m going to go through the hassle of sending both clutches to the US I will spend the $800 for the complete work. Damn slippery slope.

 

[madmax]

Does PCC do machine work to lighten the primary?

 

[TRS]

Does PCC do machine work to lighten the primary?

Yes he does

 

[Mentzel]

I would just drop 2 grams on the primary clutch weights. Look at the factory clutching chart in your manual. It tells you what to change for that elevation..

 

[kanedog]

FYI-weights $200
Spring-$50

Both do the same thing except just changing a spring saves $150.
Up to you.

 

[BigAir]

@TRS, what are your thoughts on the above comment? I barely understand clutching, but I know that spring and weight changes don't have exactly the same effect. Maybe for a small change, such as this, it doesn't matter.

 

[Teth-Air]

Good point and also correct. I shoulda said for 95% of clutching this strategy will work. Turbos may need more help. I don’t recommend buying adjustable weights for na. It’s a scam.

I use them all the time for the N/A because I can dial the rpm exactly where I want it for the speed I am riding. I like to stay just under the exhaust valve opening rpm for cruising and it pops to life very quickly when I grab a handful. Stock clutch weights don't allow this fine tuning and springs are not available for that kind of fine tuning.

 

[madmax]

Yes he does

Only on the P-85? Not the p-22? Correct?

 

[TRS]

Only on the P-85? Not the p-22? Correct?

Correct

 

[Teth-Air]

You, my friend, are in the 5% of sledders that knows what you want for clutching/shifting. For all others, adjustable weights are a scam.

So saying 95% of sledders don't know what to tune for makes more sense than discrediting the product design. Are they going to know what spring to choose?

 

[kanedog]

So saying 95% of sledders don't know what to tune for makes more sense than discrediting the product design. Are they going to know what spring to choose?

10lbs spring force=100rpm. Easy peasy!