What adjustments did you do to the limiter and how would you set up a 155 boost for maximum playfulness with the 300lx?
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325 does not like the sugar snow we were in today. Turns out the boost and 325 weren't a big advantage, in tight trees, over 9r with 2.75. Only thing the boost did better was find the bottom quicker. The 2.75 was not liking it either and usually it's decent in it. A foot to 16 inches of fresh on a crust and then sugar all the way down. Had the 2.75 go through, on flat ground, and almost rare over backwards on me. That never happens with a 2.75. Weird snow. The only thing that cured it was speed.
Pro or Khaos?
Sums up much discussion about tracks ...most comments & experience are useless unless riding same / similar conditions and style of riding as the op...
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Khoas rails. Pro shocks and strap
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Rails are the same now. Per Polaris they only contributed to 10% of the khaos DNA. The pro velocities are also valved less aggressively and have no hi/lo adjustment. I would say khaos all day long. Way more bang for the buck and it's free to tame it down. Cost money to make the PRO more fun.
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What is the reason for the Pro shocks with Khaos rails? The pro limiter is the best way to go but I’m not tracking on your shock selection/rail combo
He likes going both ways...
The skid is an ice age/raptor setup from a previous sled. It’s how I bought it.
Need some thoughts and ideas...
So, I'm a flatlander. Have ridden for a few decades upper midwest trails. Currently own a Indy 650 137 x 1.5" and SBA 146 x 2.0". Both have suspension and clutching modifications, engines are stock.
As of last year I started riding mountain. Did a few days of clinic up in Revelstoke, BC last December, a bit of time out in CO and then back to Revy for a Avy 1+ training with Jeremy Hanke at SoulRides (fun course, learned a lot, crappy EoY snow - but still). Mountain riding feels pretty natural out of the gate, but was riding Khaos 9R 155 @ 2.75 all times (rentals). I got stuck quite a bit during the clinic working on deep, steep sidehills and trying terrain I'm just not used to. I like the 9R. The 850 on my SBA is, honestly, plenty with a bit of minor tuning for trail - but I can see how the 9R is just "right" for elevation.
Now... I'm stuck. I really should have ridden a 165, but since the snow was concrete my last ride in BC I just stuck with the 155 so I didn't destroy myself. What I'm wondering is - what's are the general opinions on newer mountain riders (with a lot of trail stick time) who want to get into the treelines and technical stuff. My initial thought was find a PRO-RMK 165 w/2.75 and either 9R or 850 depending on what I could find. But... Reading through this thread I'm wondering if I should target the 3.25. But then at what length? I'll probably be trailering out to Wyoming, Montana and Colorado for riding this winter - maybe up to Canada again. But I'd like a decent all arounder.
I though the PRO-RMK would be the better fit, but after reading through comments it seems as though there's not much difference and that a limiter strap will basically bring them pretty close. I have access to purchase all the following at reasonable deals:
But really torn on going 155 @ 3.25 or 165 @ either lug. Was thinking maybe the 155 @ 3.25 in the Khaos is a good all arounder and I could limit the front of the skid with the strap for more PRO-like handling? Anything else that I should be considering / missing?
TIA, all!
So, I'm a flatlander. Have ridden for a few decades upper midwest trails. Currently own a Indy 650 137 x 1.5" and SBA 146 x 2.0". Both have suspension and clutching modifications, engines are stock.
As of last year I started riding mountain. Did a few days of clinic up in Revelstoke, BC last December, a bit of time out in CO and then back to Revy for a Avy 1+ training with Jeremy Hanke at SoulRides (fun course, learned a lot, crappy EoY snow - but still). Mountain riding feels pretty natural out of the gate, but was riding Khaos 9R 155 @ 2.75 all times (rentals). I got stuck quite a bit during the clinic working on deep, steep sidehills and trying terrain I'm just not used to. I like the 9R. The 850 on my SBA is, honestly, plenty with a bit of minor tuning for trail - but I can see how the 9R is just "right" for elevation.
Now... I'm stuck. I really should have ridden a 165, but since the snow was concrete my last ride in BC I just stuck with the 155 so I didn't destroy myself. What I'm wondering is - what's are the general opinions on newer mountain riders (with a lot of trail stick time) who want to get into the treelines and technical stuff. My initial thought was find a PRO-RMK 165 w/2.75 and either 9R or 850 depending on what I could find. But... Reading through this thread I'm wondering if I should target the 3.25. But then at what length? I'll probably be trailering out to Wyoming, Montana and Colorado for riding this winter - maybe up to Canada again. But I'd like a decent all arounder.
I though the PRO-RMK would be the better fit, but after reading through comments it seems as though there's not much difference and that a limiter strap will basically bring them pretty close. I have access to purchase all the following at reasonable deals:
- PRO-RMK 165 9R 3.25
- PRO-RMK 165 9R 2.75
- PRO-RMK 165 850 2.75
- PRO-RMK 155 9R 3.25
- Khaos 165 9R 2.75
- Khaos 9R 155 3.25
But really torn on going 155 @ 3.25 or 165 @ either lug. Was thinking maybe the 155 @ 3.25 in the Khaos is a good all arounder and I could limit the front of the skid with the strap for more PRO-like handling? Anything else that I should be considering / missing?
TIA, all!
Kaos 325 for the win. These sleds aren't out of hand like the kaos axys.
155 or 165? I had been reading through some posts and... I'm not a spring chicken. If I remember correctly someone said the guys over 40 (just barely, but still) should be riding 165s.
That's complete bs. They say that to justify, in their mind, it's ok they're riding it. 165s are better for heavy riders and more forgiving for someone going slower. Absolutely nothing to do with age.155 or 165? I had been reading through some posts and... I'm not a spring chicken. If I remember correctly someone said the guys over 40 (just barely, but still) should be riding 165s.
I think an appropriate question would be, What type of riding do you and your group enjoy? I'm guessing you'll have your trips booked in advance so you may get 3' of powder or you may get hero snow! If you want to stop at the first steep hill and do bowties all day, then there is no question, 155 or even a 146. By reading your post it sounds to me as though a 165 is going to be what you want. I've got 600-900 miles on 3.25's none of them are missing paddles (granted I don't run to the pick up at 60mph) but I have ridden them on less than ideal snowpacks. The 3.25 will be what you want on the 3' powder days and the hero snow days it won't matter what you have.
Get an 850 pro 165 and use the left over money to buy fuel and have fun. FB marketplace had one with like 300 miles, 7s, for $10500.
I agree with this 9R isn’t worth the cost they are snappier but I don’t notice hardly any difference in the top end. Boost is fun on deep days but they will wear you out especially a 155.
There are a ton of 850 PRO-RMK 165's around me, but only with the 2.75. That's the path I was originally looking to go, my 850 SBA felt really close to the 9R I was riding out West, but it's so hard to tell when you're not riding them back to back and with the snow and length difference.
I think saving the $3-4k and dumping that into some clutching and potentially a different track might be a better path. At that rate I would gather the general choices are 300lx (3") or S9 (3.25")?
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How much do you weigh?
I think 200-220 is about the max you want to be on the 155
I think 200-220 is about the max you want to be on the 155
Anywhere between 170-180 depending on the day and 5'11".
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