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2015 Motor Speculation
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they can easily get the orbital air assisted direct injection patent from orbital, mercury marine did it and now has optimax
should run polaris about a few hundred grand or maybe even close to 1 million
but the only way they could cheaply build a DI engine is using a diesel type injection
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rmscustom
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I think it's kind of ironic how everyone talks about 140 to 165 hp sleds. At 10K feet, you essentially have a 600 at sea level. Unless you're running boost, you lose 3% for every thousand feet. I've had all brands and have even owned a turbo. Sure, the HP is nice, but it's more realistic to compare power to weight on stock sleds. I currently own two Pro 163's and had I not known it was "only" 140hp, I would have never known the difference. The one thing I love about the Poo 800 is the throttle response. It is soooo crisp. And once again, I have owned all brands and ridden all the new sleds. Do I wish that they were all reliable, sure. But I have not had one issue with my 12 or 13 Pro's. We've all seen the improvements and all been test dummy's for the big 4. Anyone can come on here and pound their chest and say mine is the best. They all have their shortcomings and anyone that fails to see that is blind. I'm with Cateye, lets see what 2014 has to offer first.
Exactly. The Pro is efficient getting the power to the snow (where it counts, not at the pto) and the power to weight ratio also helps.
With all the purchases Polaris has made I'd think something is coming up. They are killing the military market right now.
Am I back in the Yamaha forum?
We are riding the best stock mountain sled ever, Its oct-2013 and you guys are talking about 2015 sleds? REALLY?
I kind of enjoy not having to spend thousands of dollars putting aftermarket parts on a new sled to "try" and keep up with other new stock sleds. Eric
We are riding the best stock mountain sled ever, Its oct-2013 and you guys are talking about 2015 sleds? REALLY?
I kind of enjoy not having to spend thousands of dollars putting aftermarket parts on a new sled to "try" and keep up with other new stock sleds. Eric
The new RZR 1000cc four stroke is going into a sled. It has extra bolt holes around where the exhaust attaches... to mount a turbo? The exterior engine design looks sled friendly.
It is only a little over 100 HP and weigh? No thanks, I'll run the old 2 strokes.
It's not really a surprise that people are talking about 2015 already . This happens every year. In march people will start talking on whether they should Snowcheck a 2015 or wait for 2016 then people will speculate about what the 2016 will have! Just comes with all of us being bored waiting for snow!!
ahhh yes now that is true...the optimax does beat the etec in the outboard wars too...hopefully polaris makes a good choice and goes with orbital
The 2014 saw very little change. So looking at past history, 2015 should see some major changes. I doubt that Polaris will have a major chassis change (ie: all new like 2011), but I do think there be something all new for the chassis. New body work for sure.
As far as the motor goes, Poo definitely needs to do something, otherwise, like stated above, the other guys are gonna have a similar chassis soon and the Poo mill will be left in the dust. They have to step it up in the engine dept to stay on top of sales.
As far as the motor goes, Poo definitely needs to do something, otherwise, like stated above, the other guys are gonna have a similar chassis soon and the Poo mill will be left in the dust. They have to step it up in the engine dept to stay on top of sales.
The IQR has been widely unchanged since its introduction in model year 2005, so I'm expecting a brand new race chassis for 2015. As far as the Pro chassis goes, I'm going to guess that they will unveil some sort of 4-stroke unfortunately. I'm with the rest of the guys saying that I'm hoping for a DI 800 making about 160 horse.
Chad
Chad
The 4 stroke market just really doesn't exist yet. According to my friend who is a local Arctic Cat dealer he sold the crap out of the M1100T when it was first introduced, still has a bunch of holdover 2013's he'd love to unload and didn't order a single one for 2014. He personally rode a 2012 m1100 turbo two years ago but switched back to a 2 stroke last year. He said yeah it made a lot of power but the fun factor was just not there. Hopefully Poo is looking at Cat's numbers and not getting too excited about releasing a 4 stroke mountain sled.
And yes we are all bored waiting for snow! Although you could certainly do some road riding on the Grand Mesa this morning --
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sledneck_03
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i think yamaha is ridiculous not to use their hpdi two stroke technology in more than outboards.......
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nuggetau
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The 2014 is virtually unchanged from 2013, and it's only 5 months from the sale of the 2015, so why wouldn't we be talking about it?
Can It just snow already...
I have heard.this also from a Cat dealer. Sales of the four stroke are just not there.
I am really surprised that Yamaha hasn't jumped back into the 2 stroke market.
yes it has.. just not enough to go out and play...otherwise this thread wouldn't be bickering amongst us it would be '15 vs '14 better or worse etc etc etc 
Agreed. But Yamaha jumping back into the two stroke market would be like Obama admitting he lied to the American Public, it ain't happening
