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2012 M8 476 pounds...

The current m chassis is right there with the new pro in weight if the new cat comes in the same weight and able to drop 10-15 pounds with a can your right at the same weight As the beloved pro.Put a can on a Pro and you drop another 12 as well. I like the statement above the xp is supposidly he ligtest yet is the hardest to throw over.
That is a prime example of why you weight mongers nees to shash and let the chassis do its job no matter the new weight!!!Insert foot here, your comment now retracts and mutes your first whole paragraph Let the rider positioning and throttle responce make your decision..Agreed, you even have M chassis riders on this thread backing up the pro, along with countless fellas who switched this year, not saying they may not switch back or there may not be poo guys to switch your way...


Everyone doesnt care thst the pro is under horsed by 20 ponies yet they think that 10 pounds is going to make all the difference in the world hahaThat ten lbs did make all the difference in the world, look at the Snowest test....

Also for you HP guys, check out your highly toughted DynoTech dyno numbers, there is closer to a 10 hp difference not 20...



Id take 20 pounds for 20 ponies any day of the week!!I agree, i would take that too...escept the best power to weight ratio yet has been the new pro, and when it comes down to it that is the end factor, then you have to weigh in the chassis ergonomics etc, which is truly all speculation on the cat, the pros chassis has proven to be the "cats" meow ! With cats new drive system putting more of them ponies to the ground you pro lovers are gonna reaaalyly feel the difference this year....good speculation, yet to be seen...the polaris drive has never been an issue, and cat toughted theres for how many years?? now they take a step essentially back, to do what the other companies have been doing all along?...

Oh and btw the reason your seeing crated weight is because thats all people get to see is he shippig label..actually arctic cat has always done crated weight, knowbody even has a clue as to what the new sleds will weigh, the final prototypes havnt even been finished or released to ride, why do you think they arent doing demo rides yet...the sleds not finished


-Aksnopro
Thanks
 
One thing i think some people are missing that are saying the pro RMK is only 10 lbs lighter. The assault is 15 lbs heavier than the pro because of the completely different track and suspension ie piggy back shocks. Correct me if im wrong i dont think the HCR weighs 15 lbs more than the sno pro because the track is a similar track mainly just a harder durometer rubber and doesnt have piggy back shocks. So lets say the hcr weighs 5 lbs more than the snopro that brings the weight advantage to more like 20 lbs for the rmk

IMO arctic cat isnt posting weight because it is not their strong suit just like polaris doesnt post hp and ski-doo doesnt brag out being the most agile. I am excited to see how the new cats go. I am very happy with my under powered pro but who knows maybe i could be happier on a heavier pro climb its too bad they are not doing demo rides this year. I would have never snow checked a pro last year with out a demo ride. The last time i snow checked a sled with out doing a demo ride it bit me in the but i ended up with a 08 xp that was light on the scales but felt like trying to throw a locomotive around in the trees.
 
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Your all mental. Cat is'nt posting weights because 1. they never have and 2. these sleds are not finalized, they still have different options they are trying so and all sleds are still in proto type form, no productions units have been built. This is also the reason for not demo ride, they just dont have enough units built yet. This is straight for the Pres of AC's mouth so take it or leave it, its up to you.
 
Haha agreed...i can even beat that though, saw a dealer one time get stumped on where to find the dry weight, went over and lifted up on the back of the sled and said " eh yah id say about 500 lbs" haha ...what a gomer
Now thats funny s..t!
 
Here is the REAL story

OK Guys- am at EXPO right now and just had a good sit down talk with un-biased reps that have ridden both sleds.
The 2011 M8 and the 2012 M8 weights are the SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:face-icon-small-sad

When riding the new M8 compaired to the 2011 there was a difference but nothing huge-no WOW factor. Buying a 2011 leftover was not out of line for the money
The pro800 when campaired to the new M8 was more flickable and rider input was much more noticable....Power went to the M8 but Pro 800 could put it just as good to the track.....in every area but point and shoot

The m1100 turbo is fun to ride but is very nose heavy, but still a very fun sled to ride but your going to have to work at it boondockin and in tight places. (80 lbs heaver than the M8)

I really wanted to buy a new Cat- and came up to really compair the two but their (cat) heart is not totally in this sled- not offering public demo rides ( Polaris is) Cat told me today they didn't have any sleds to ride ...and these were photo shoot sleds and were in pretty hard ridden shape- some sleds were in a truck from the dealer show- Good Grief this is the EXPO- time to strut your stuff:decision:

So I was going to buy Cat- but with the poorly displayed intrest I see not much to really offer ( but losing the DD) I sadly must bend at the knees and go to a Pro RMK:nod:....
Thanks cat- I wanted to support but it is what it is!!!!!

S.C.
 
I think they just want to surprise everyone and right now as we speak they are shredding a few pounds for their believers, whatever else we want off will be up too us to take care of.
 
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^ Sure the 1100 is a bit of a wildcard, but there really isn't much doubt IMO that the new M8 will be a good runner.....it already is in its 2011 form. They would really have to go out of their way to bugger it up....and I'm sure they're not stupid. Doesn't mean it'll be the best feel for everyone, but all of these new sleds are pretty damned close at the end of the day.
 
This is kind of funny as it pertains to 1100T as my brother is at the EXPO right now and he said the A/C rep told him it weighed 530. He tried lifting the front end and could not get it off of the ground.

He then asked if they had any to demo and they laughed and said - " ya right , what you see on the floor is all we have here ".

He and I are pretty much die-hard CAT mind you.

So, he went outside to the Polaris area where the had 15 sleds lined up to demo ride. He and 8 other guys went out for an hour and my brother said IF he was in the market for a new sled , it would be a PRO. And he rides an M8 Cutler turbo. He said the ride was awesome, felt very similar to an M in handling , and the power was strong throughout.

A/C is shooting themselves in the foot by not allowing demo rides. And like I said between my brother and myself we have 6 cats.



OK Guys- am at EXPO right now and just had a good sit down talk with un-biased reps that have ridden both sleds.
The 2011 M8 and the 2012 M8 weights are the SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:face-icon-small-sad

When riding the new M8 compaired to the 2011 there was a difference but nothing huge-no WOW factor. Buying a 2011 leftover was not out of line for the money
The pro800 when campaired to the new M8 was more flickable and rider input was much more noticable....Power went to the M8 but Pro 800 could put it just as good to the track.....in every area but point and shoot

The m1100 turbo is fun to ride but is very nose heavy, but still a very fun sled to ride but your going to have to work at it boondockin and in tight places. (80 lbs heaver than the M8)

I really wanted to buy a new Cat- and came up to really compair the two but their (cat) heart is not totally in this sled- not offering public demo rides ( Polaris is) Cat told me today they didn't have any sleds to ride ...and these were photo shoot sleds and were in pretty hard ridden shape- some sleds were in a truck from the dealer show- Good Grief this is the EXPO- time to strut your stuff:decision:

So I was going to buy Cat- but with the poorly displayed intrest I see not much to really offer ( but losing the DD) I sadly must bend at the knees and go to a Pro RMK:nod:....
Thanks cat- I wanted to support but it is what it is!!!!!

S.C.
 
Thats what the dealer I just got off the phone with told me! I would think the dealer would Know!!!

Uhm.. I would think us Scandinavians know?? No laws or regulations being pushed on sleds over here, your EPA runs that show.

Differences I know have been made in the past are:

1. Gearing, no groomed trails here and people often pull a trailer of somekind.
(old Polaris SKS models almost always came stock with 2-up seat)

2. Clutching. Cant get above 5000ft with a sled here so no need for 10K clutching.

3. MAYBE maps for ECU. Also because of low altitude on mountain sleds + a little different fuel.

This might be derived from cars, whole different ballgame AND European laws/standards.

But sleds, what you buy in the US we buy here. Fact.

RS
 
weight loss/gain

Why should we "not expect" cat to make the proclimb weigh alot less than the current M, ITS A NEW CHASSIS, Have we forgotten that Polaris did it with the proride, and Ski Doo did it with the XP. By the way, I would love to read about weight on Cats website, they just dont seem to want to offer it, which seems very suspect. Dont understand, they put out a 2012 brochure of production models and dealer pricing, but their not sure what the production model weighs, HMM...

My 2008 Summit X 146(POS) was listed at 425lbs and the 2012 Summit X 146 is listed at 454lbs. How much weight do you place on a sleds weight? The Doo guys still think they have the best thing since G Strings and public beaches. My 2010 M8 weighs.......well hell, I don't really care what it weighs cause it's 10 times the sled of '08 Summit in every possible way. Between these two sleds I owned a boosted Nytro that likely tipped the scales at close to 650lbs and it was 10 times the sled the '08 Summit was...even stock!!!! Too much emphasis on weight IMO, especially when it's splittin hairs over 10-15lbs. Just ride the dam thing and then pass judgement...now there's a valid bitch...you won't be able to ride one unless you or one of your buddies buys one
 
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to the dude who thinks his dealer is right about th turbo 1100 weighing 490 lbs. Do you think he`ll give you your money back when it comes and weighs 590lbs with 2 gallons of fuel, NOT. the 1100 is supposedly 100 lbs heavier than the m-8
 
who cares about a few lbs??

467 lbs is good and light!
You know how much the can weight...just replace that can and you have 452lbs.
Add a pipe, loose another xx lbs
And hopefully a sled that wont break
pro rmk is not holding up, running boards is weak and they will crack if you ride to hard.
buy a new proclimb and you will get a great light sled!
 
My last Cat.

The last time I bought a new Cat was in "1975"

I just put money down on a "2012 Proclimb M 1100 Turbo Sno Pro Limited"

I will still have my 177 HP at 10,000'

You 800 guys will be around 120 HP

I have a good feeling about this one.

Wally:face-icon-small-coo
 
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