2012 M8 476 pounds...

[94fordguy]

You guys can Get handed a bag of gold and bitch about the color of the bag...


Our m's are old news i have heard so far 3 ride reports everyone of them say its an amazing ride that the new 4 strokes are like no other 4 stroke on the market, and that the new chassis were going to love.

I personally cant wait, i dont care about 10-20 pounds its got more suspension travel better a-arm removal better steering support, more efficient at gettig power to the ground, stronger tunnel ect ect ect to our current m's.

I know its going to outclimb my 2010, the rest is just getting used to the chassis so you can throw it around anywhere. If guys can throw xps around in the woods a guy could learn to throw a sheet of plywood around in the trees with enough time on it hahaha

The Weights have always been hard to get from cat. Plus i garantee between now and release it will shed weight and unlike other brands cat doesnt lie about there weights.

-Aksnopro

LMAO about the sheet of plywood, that's good stuff

The one thing I would point out is that when the PRO RMK came out the weight was a huge deal as they claimed it so low. When the production sleds came out and folks actually put them on the scale, they were within 5 lbs of advertised weight.... Take into account the coolant, shock oil, and enough gas and oil to make it start for a few seconds and the weights were spot on - they hit the nail on the head on that one.

I'm gonna agree with a few of the folks on here, weight is second to handling.... why are the XPs reportedly so much harder to hold on a side-hill if they are lighter than the M? It's in the handling. I prefer the handling of my 900 to that of my old EDGE even though its noticeably heavier. Lightweight isn't everything.

I hope Cat hit a good design with this sled, it doesn't benefit anyone in the industry if they turn out a mediocre design. We only get the best technology if the manufacturers try to one-up each other and learn from their respective faults.

I am eager to see how the sled works as much as you guys.... Cat has a huge stake on the line to improve upon the M-series sleds. Even if we prefer something different, the success of the M is unquestionable.

 

[snowmobiler]

ask the dealer to garrenty that 490 weight in writing and you cant loose

 

[Jaynelson]

Seriously, what kind of forrest gump dealer would quote a weight that included the weight of goddamn crate itself?

Does GM weigh their trucks while they are still chained down to the transport truck? "According to the scale, this new Sierra weighs 96,580 lbs! And from looking at it really hard from many different angles, I'm pretty sure that transport truck weighs about 80,000lbs. So go ahead and take that to the bank!"

Seriously give me a break. Obviously AC doesn't know what the final weight will be, or it would be there with all of the other spec.

 

[RidnHigh]

Seriously, what kind of forrest gump dealer would quote a weight that included the weight of goddamn crate itself?

Does GM weigh their trucks while they are still chained down to the transport truck? "According to the scale, this new Sierra weighs 96,580 lbs! And from looking at it really hard from many different angles, I'm pretty sure that transport truck weighs about 80,000lbs. So go ahead and take that to the bank!"

Seriously give me a break. Obviously AC doesn't know what the final weight will be, or it would be there with all of the other spec.

Haha agreed...i can even beat that though, saw a dealer one time get stumped on where to find the dry weight, went over and lifted up on the back of the sled and said " eh yah id say about 500 lbs" haha ...what a gomer

 

[TNTCOPP]

No offense , but you are off of your rocker if you think A/C does not know what the final weight is. They probably know within 5 lbs. just like Poo did. It is just a game they are playing - nothing else.

Seriously, what kind of forrest gump dealer would quote a weight that included the weight of goddamn crate itself?

Does GM weigh their trucks while they are still chained down to the transport truck? "According to the scale, this new Sierra weighs 96,580 lbs! And from looking at it really hard from many different angles, I'm pretty sure that transport truck weighs about 80,000lbs. So go ahead and take that to the bank!"

Seriously give me a break. Obviously AC doesn't know what the final weight will be, or it would be there with all of the other spec.

 

[Jaynelson]

No offense , but you are off of your rocker if you think A/C does not know what the final weight is. They probably know within 5 lbs. just like Poo did. It is just a game they are playing - nothing else.

I think whoever weighs a sled with wood of an estimated weight still bolted to it is off their rocker. And I think Cat is either unsure of whether they will lose/add some weight before production, or the weights are not impressive enough to brag about. It's like Poo with the Pro HP....they didn't feel it would be a huge selling feature so they didn't make a big stink about it. Cat obviously has no intentions of being the lightest....so they are not going to tout lightweight as their big selling feature.

 

[aksnopro]

The current m chassis is right there with the new pro in weight if the new cat comes in the same weight and able to drop 10-15 pounds with a can your right at the same weight As the beloved pro. I like the statement above the xp is supposidly he ligtest yet is the hardest to throw over.
That is a prime example of why you weight mongers nees to shash and let the chassis do its job no matter the new weight!!! Let the rider positioning and throttle responce make your decision..


Everyone doesnt care thst the pro is under horsed by 20 ponies yet they think that 10 pounds is going to make all the difference in the world haha


Id take 20 pounds for 20 ponies any day of the week!!! With cats new drive system putting more of them ponies to the ground you pro lovers are gonna reaaalyly feel the difference this year....

Oh and btw the reason your seeing crated weight is because thats all people get to see is he shippig label..


-Aksnopro

 

[EZmoney]

The current m chassis is right there with the new pro in weight if the new cat comes in the same weight and able to drop 10-15 pounds with a can your right at the same weight As the beloved pro. I like the statement above the xp is supposidly he ligtest yet is the hardest to throw over.
That is a prime example of why you weight mongers nees to shash and let the chassis do its job no matter the new weight!!! Let the rider positioning and throttle responce make your decision..


Everyone doesnt care thst the pro is under horsed by 20 ponies yet they think that 10 pounds is going to make all the difference in the world haha


Id take 20 pounds for 20 ponies any day of the week!!! With cats new drive system putting more of them ponies to the ground you pro lovers are gonna reaaalyly feel the difference this year....

Oh and btw the reason your seeing crated weight is because thats all people get to see is he shippig label..


-Aksnopro

If the RMK aka "rebuilt motor king" was 2 pounds lighter you would still hear its better. These guys will never change. The rmk was lacking or a peice of chit for so many years and now have a good chassis but yet underpowered they got to toot their horn about something.lol

 

[IShartd]

The current m chassis is right there with the new pro in weight if the new cat comes in the same weight and able to drop 10-15 pounds with a can your right at the same weight As the beloved pro. I like the statement above the xp is supposidly he ligtest yet is the hardest to throw over.
That is a prime example of why you weight mongers nees to shash and let the chassis do its job no matter the new weight!!! Let the rider positioning and throttle responce make your decision..


Everyone doesnt care thst the pro is under horsed by 20 ponies yet they think that 10 pounds is going to make all the difference in the world haha


Id take 20 pounds for 20 ponies any day of the week!!! With cats new drive system putting more of them ponies to the ground you pro lovers are gonna reaaalyly feel the difference this year....

Oh and btw the reason your seeing crated weight is because thats all people get to see is he shippig label..


-Aksnopro

2011 sno pro M8 153 / 467lbs dry weight, 2011 RMK pro 155 / 431lbs , where are you seeing a 10 lb differance? Oh and their going to a chaincase, awesome. Hmm, isnt that what they run in the Pro-Ride?


Once again, I'm a M chassis rider, just know a good sled when I see one, don't feel the need to tow the company line if they dont deserve it, but by all means raise that flag as high as you can and buy everything they sell you.

 

[w4cstriker]

2011 sno pro M8 153 / 467lbs dry weight, 2011 RMK pro 155 / 431lbs , where are you seeing a 10 lb differance? Oh and their going to a chaincase, awesome. Hmm, isnt that what they run in the Pro-Ride?


Once again, I'm a M chassis rider, just know a good sled when I see one, don't feel the need to tow the company line if they dont deserve it, but by all means raise that flag as high as you can and buy everything they sell you.

Dont mean to argue but crate weight for a 2011 m8 sp 162 track was 462 ,dont know what dry weight is wasnt listed

 

[polaris dude]

Are you guys trying to convert people to an underpowered pro???

you guys have a brand new platform, why do you gotta hate on polaris? Each brand has their ups and downs I guess I don't understand why your talking polaris in the arctic cat section.

 

[Bubba]

ac

Gee i wonder. that's because you poo guy's are on the cat thred. what the...ell you do think.

 

[Rms Rydning]

Can't go off the Swedish sleds.....totally different emissions and regulations there. Typically not the same sled we get here in US/Canada.

The sleds are the same, the software/clutching can be diffrent, but mostly because of altitude diffrence. You normaly ride M sleds from 6000-10000ft, here we ride them from 0-4500ft..

 

[Ask Yourself]

Yeah.. agreed so they will tout about there 3' high spindles instead.. big selling point..lol

 

[Dam Dave]

2011 sno pro M8 153 / 467lbs dry weight, 2011 RMK pro 155 / 431lbs , where are you seeing a 10 lb differance?

467 is Cat crate weight not dry weight, Cat crate weight is with all fluids except gas

 

[AndrettiDog]

I believe Polaris lost so many pounds off their old chassis because their old chassis was heavy. PG 26 Snowest feb 2011 shows real world wet weights of some sleds.

"Which sled is the lightest?
The Polaris Assault, thanks to a 40-pound diet from its 2010 version. Here are the wet weights (full of fuel and oil, carrying a spare belt and OEM-supplied tool kit):
Polaris Assault 800: 548 lbs.
Arctic Cat HCR 800: 556 lbs.
Ski-Doo Freeride 800: 577 lbs."

All are 153-155" tracks.

I don't think Cat dropped 30 lbs this year because they didn't have 30 lbs to drop, they're already right there with the lightest available in the class. Put a can on your 2011 HCR and it should weight the same as a stock 11 Assault ready to ride full of fuel if this article is accurate. I wouldn't trust any mfg dry weight as they don't all play by the same rules, let an independent, less biased opinion compare them and you will probably get better accuracy.

It seems you are trying to justify the higher weight of the cat. If you shed something off of it (like a can) then an apples to apples comparison would be to do the same to the other sled. Even though the Pro stock can is lighter than past stock cans, the HPS can saves several pounds. If the M8 is the same weight as last year (478 dry) then it is 47 lbs heavier than the Pro.

 

[Going West]

For the 200th time, the 2011 m8 weights are crated weights, that means all fluids, tools and every thing that comes with you sled along with a little gas and injection oil. That weight is about 465 for a 153 track. A RMK Pro ride crated weight is about 452 ish thats only a difference of 13 lbs.

 

[m8sandman]

http://www.arcticcat.se/source.php/1346845/arcticcat_snoskoter_2012.pdf

pro's weighed right out of the crate at 431...

 

[m8magicandmystery]

i don;t care what brand it is...when i can get my sled to 390 with after market all the manufactures are "THE BAY OF PIGS"

 

[polaris dude]

Gee i wonder. that's because you poo guy's are on the cat thred. what the...ell you do think.

Yeah, this is rather exciting news don't you agree? Whenever there is a new chassis on the market everyone looks at them and adds their opinion to the mix. Especially when cat and poo have always been rather similar and it appears they might have totally changed the game I don't see why we wouldn't be here.


But seriously I think people are getting a little out of control with how defensive people are over their brands. Its snowmobiling, no matter what brand it is they all go through snow some way or another