2012 M8 476 pounds...

[aksnopro]

You guys can Get handed a bag of gold and bitch about the color of the bag...


Our m's are old news i have heard so far 3 ride reports everyone of them say its an amazing ride that the new 4 strokes are like no other 4 stroke on the market, and that the new chassis were going to love.

I personally cant wait, i dont care about 10-20 pounds its got more suspension travel better a-arm removal better steering support, more efficient at gettig power to the ground, stronger tunnel ect ect ect to our current m's.

I know its going to outclimb my 2010, the rest is just getting used to the chassis so you can throw it around anywhere. If guys can throw xps around in the woods a guy could learn to throw a sheet of plywood around in the trees with enough time on it hahaha

The Weights have always been hard to get from cat. Plus i garantee between now and release it will shed weight and unlike other brands cat doesnt lie about there weights.

-Aksnopro

 

[knifedge]

---Arctic Cat SNO PRO M came along way before the Polaris PRO RMK. So what the big deal about naming them PROCLIMB M?

 

[IShartd]

I do have to say the 'pro climb' name could have been less 'transparent', as you called it and a little more original.
The sweedish are guessing on weight as much as we are. All the European and Japanese dealers were at the same show ordering the same stuff.
I will just say, don't believe any weight you read unless it's on cats website, or until we get our hands on production models and weigh them ourselves. And don't expect it to weigh different than a couple pounds less than the 2011 model m8.

Why should we "not expect" cat to make the proclimb weigh alot less than the current M, ITS A NEW CHASSIS, Have we forgotten that Polaris did it with the proride, and Ski Doo did it with the XP. By the way, I would love to read about weight on Cats website, they just dont seem to want to offer it, which seems very suspect. Dont understand, they put out a 2012 brochure of production models and dealer pricing, but their not sure what the production model weighs, HMM...

 

[IShartd]

---Arctic Cat SNO PRO M came along way before the Polaris PRO RMK. So what the big deal about naming them PROCLIMB M?

Pro Ride / Pro Climb, just seems funny to me, not a big deal, pretty sure its not the PROCLIMB M though.

 

[Going West]

Pro Ride / Pro Climb, just seems funny to me, not a big deal, pretty sure its not the PROCLIMB M though.

http://www.arcticcat.com/snow/sleds/modelviewer/M800SNOPRO

 

[IShartd]

http://www.arcticcat.com/snow/sleds/modelviewer/M800SNOPRO

I stand corrected.

 

[IShartd]

The oversea sleds have a ton of emition stuff on them here are the us weights


http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=259966&page=11


#506

Sorry, opened the link, looks like the overseas weight in Kgs, did not see any US #s.

 

[Johnmaster]

I do have to say the 'pro climb' name could have been less 'transparent', as you called it and a little more original.

I was thinking the same thing 5 minutes after I saw that until I realized that Polaris took the PRO name just recently and that Cat has had pro (i.e. SNO PRO) all along.

As for weight, I would rather have a "regular weight" sled similar to what the current models are than have a 30 lb lighter machine that folds under any abuse. XP's sold on super low weight but you have to buy braces and stiffeners if you plan on doing anything more than ice riding... Cat could strip this thing down and sell you all of the rest of the parts to make it a sled again but I am glad they just sell it ready to go.

 

[Norway]

The oversea sleds have a ton of emition stuff on them here are the us weights

Huh?? I dont think this is true. Source?

Rune

 

[Johnmaster]

Ok, so maybe you can ride an XP hard without doing a ton of work to it but there have still been plenty of strength issues that I don't think they will have with these sleds. Have a friend who had to add a rod to the rear of his 09 renegade skid because the top rear ends would bend out when he jumped it. They saved 6 oz and created a huge headache for him.

 

[treemagnet03]

just for the record guys, AC swiped the sno pro name from a racing series in the late 70s. They did not come up with the name in any original form. Thus, it is a bit suspect to use the proclimb name directly on the heels of a pro rmk/ride. I would have liked to see an original idea, but marketing is a war I guess...

 

[Johnmaster]

Maybe if they use the word pro in the names more often they will win the war. They should have the PROclimb M 800 Sno PRO PROfessional edition

Please step out of the car meow.

 

[IShartd]

Sorry the thread got hijacked by my name conspiracy implications, back to topic. I see what you guys are saying about the XP, but no explanation has been given as to the reason why Polaris could come out with a new chassis, which seems to work real well, and drop so much weight and still maintain structural integrity. Listen, I ride Cat, love my M, would just hope that they could meet the "weight benchmark" with a new chassis, some would say this would be progression, Polaris did it, I would see no reason to think AC couldnt.
I'd venture to quess a lot of people on here spend huge $s on weight saving performance gimmicks, I know I do. This would stand to reason then that weight is a huge factor for the Mountain market segment, in turn should be a major if not top priority concern for the manufacturing side.

 

[backcountryislife]

Sorry it was under post 506

I just talked to a dealer and the Those weights are for overseas, they have way more emition stuff on them so they weigh more. She informed me that the m8 is 163, 3 pounds more than lastyear becuase of the new drive shaft and the m11000 turbo crated is 590 # but the crate weighs right at about a 100# ! That puts it in at 490-500#

I think you may be getting the terms "crated" & "crate weight" confused.

crate weight, just means ready to send to the dealer (with coolant, shock oil, etc)

 

[Going West]

To me weight savings is not top priority its just a part of the equation. Total performance it always top. If this sled handles the best climb es the best and is the most flick-able sled out there with great durability (not saying it is, this is just for arguments sake) then why on earth should it matter if it weighs 15 or 20 lbs more then the lightest sled. If all your concerned about is one aspect then it is kind of narrow-minded. I want the full package and maybe this is it, maybe not but I wont know till there has been some actual seat time logged. Its not like its a heavy tank, at worst its going to weigh the same as the 2011 m8's and if thats too much sled for you to handle you need to hit the gym. JMO

 

[AndrettiDog]

Thats what the dealer I just got off the phone with told me! I would think the dealer would Know!!!

That's a really big assumption.

 

[Johnmaster]

I believe Polaris lost so many pounds off their old chassis because their old chassis was heavy. PG 26 Snowest feb 2011 shows real world wet weights of some sleds.

"Which sled is the lightest?
The Polaris Assault, thanks to a 40-pound diet from its 2010 version. Here are the wet weights (full of fuel and oil, carrying a spare belt and OEM-supplied tool kit):
Polaris Assault 800: 548 lbs.
Arctic Cat HCR 800: 556 lbs.
Ski-Doo Freeride 800: 577 lbs."

All are 153-155" tracks.

I don't think Cat dropped 30 lbs this year because they didn't have 30 lbs to drop, they're already right there with the lightest available in the class. Put a can on your 2011 HCR and it should weight the same as a stock 11 Assault ready to ride full of fuel if this article is accurate. I wouldn't trust any mfg dry weight as they don't all play by the same rules, let an independent, less biased opinion compare them and you will probably get better accuracy.

 

[IShartd]

To me weight savings is not top priority its just a part of the equation. Total performance it always top. If this sled handles the best climb es the best and is the most flick-able sled out there with great durability (not saying it is, this is just for arguments sake) then why on earth should it matter if it weighs 15 or 20 lbs more then the lightest sled. If all your concerned about is one aspect then it is kind of narrow-minded. I want the full package and maybe this is it, maybe not but I wont know till there has been some actual seat time logged. Its not like its a heavy tank, at worst its going to weigh the same as the 2011 m8's and if thats too much sled for you to handle you need to hit the gym. JMO

Your right weight savings is not the only issue, but your analogy maybe flawed when arguably, the as you say "full package" for 2011 in many peoples minds was the pro ride and they seem to drop the weight. And trust me the Gyms not the problem, its the exwife.

 

[Nickname]

Thats what the dealer I just got off the phone with told me! I would think the dealer would Know!!!

Well I dont think he know.. I think we gut less emission regulations over here..
The only thing that use to be differnt is the suspetion set up.

 

[Nytro MTX Sweden]

Thats what the dealer I just got off the phone with told me! I would think the dealer would Know!!!

Sorry, your dealer have wrong, we don't have more emition stuff then you have in US! Quite the same machine!!