I’ll post the setup.
2.6" vs 3" lugs
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I’ll post the setup.
Keep in mind the x3 and 3.2 both add significant weight over the 2.6. I think its around 10 lbs. I think that's part of what I don't like. Rotational weight and staying up on the snow is huge!
I did a straight pull in a few feet of fresh against my buddy. His sled - Axys 850 2.6 belt drive 155" Carl's clutching with some light weight parts. My sled- Axys 850 belt drive 155" camso 3.2 (extroverts) geared down to a 2.25 ratio, similar Carl's clutching with some lightweight parts. He pulled me by a few sled lengths because he was riding higher on the snow. You could see the difference in the trenches.
I know there are tons of variables to a comparison like this. The thing that got to me was that these conditions were where the camso 3.2 should have shined. Dry deep powder.
I have multiple friends that love the 3.2, x3, and series 7. They are also all on turbos. I ride stockers and the 2.6 works best for me. Like I mentioned above the 3.2 did make for great photo opps and show moves.
This track discussion is not unlike the "what bar height", "what chassis", or "what track length" works best topic. It varies rider to rider. Different riders can make different things work for them that wont work for others.
I did a straight pull in a few feet of fresh against my buddy. His sled - Axys 850 2.6 belt drive 155" Carl's clutching with some light weight parts. My sled- Axys 850 belt drive 155" camso 3.2 (extroverts) geared down to a 2.25 ratio, similar Carl's clutching with some lightweight parts. He pulled me by a few sled lengths because he was riding higher on the snow. You could see the difference in the trenches.
I know there are tons of variables to a comparison like this. The thing that got to me was that these conditions were where the camso 3.2 should have shined. Dry deep powder.
I have multiple friends that love the 3.2, x3, and series 7. They are also all on turbos. I ride stockers and the 2.6 works best for me. Like I mentioned above the 3.2 did make for great photo opps and show moves.
This track discussion is not unlike the "what bar height", "what chassis", or "what track length" works best topic. It varies rider to rider. Different riders can make different things work for them that wont work for others.
Dalton 40/36 full progressive
120-200 secondary spring
62.1 Lightning weights
120-310 primary spring
18-46 gearing
<div>I think Tony is referring to a 550 not an 850</div>
I have both machines 800 with 163 tracks my dealer had asnow check this year with a 3” track I purchased the machine. We ride in the cascade mountain range and it can tend to be on the weter side. The best way I can describe this machine is like putting in a deep sewer line it trenches. On the fresh days with new snow it is not uncommon to leave a 3’ trench every where you go. The machine never gets up on the snow like the 2.6 you will find that you will be riding slower than your friends with the shorter paddles. The one advantage you do have is it lets you get away with some mistakes and literally your friends will struggle to fallow you through the tight trees because of the trench it leaves. To do it all over again I would do the 2.6 it works great in our area.
I know exactly what he is referring to. A mod 550 pulling 62 gram Lightening's at his elevation with a touch lower gear? Must be wicked 550's because we are running 62 and 64 lightening's on 800 Pro's and 800 Axys respectively at 4-6k.
Keep in mind most fan motors are set up to make peak power at 6500-7000 RPM, so it's misleading to compare the amount of weight they can pull. To pull an 800 (heck, even my 600) down to 7000 RPM would probably take at least 10g extra weight, or a much lighter spring. You probably can't just use a lighter spring though: that would drop the engagement too low. I just looked through my EDGE manual, and the OE weight for the Trail (550) RMK is actually the same as my 600 (both run a 10-56). It's one of those "no way" things when you first see it, but makes perfect sense when you consider the much lower target RPM.
TKI belt drive 63/28=2.25 That's what Tom recommended considering track, drivers, and gears...
It takes more of a motor to turn the 3" than the 2.6". If you have the power the 3" lifts just as well. If you don't, don't bother.
Throw a 25t top gear in and race your buddy again.
This way you will know for sure.
It just might be the best $100 you ever spent. Cheers!
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Just ordered a 25t top. I'll give her a shot!
That is so cool! Report back your findings.
Looking frwd to the results!
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I run the 25t top gear on my 174" with the 3" Pulls hard at 10psi
At first I really didn't like the pol 3", now with about 1000 miles it has softened up quite a bit almost feels like a different track. It Gets up on the snow faster without trenching so much.
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