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really good sled and im verry happy with it 
174 x 3" AXYS - Any seat time?
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Getting the exact same one - so good to hear that
We took them out yesterday - first ride out on my new 174. This thing is an absolute monster in the powder. It just doesn't get buried and you really don't even have to get after it to stay on top of the powder. I was idling past people that were stuck in 5'+ and just cruising along. My brother has already named the sled the Heber Creeper as I can just lug it around and float/climb where he has to rip on the throttle on his Skidoo 850.
One thing I noticed is that you can't ride this sled like you would a 154". I switched to my dad's 850 Etec and if I try to ride mine the same way I ride his (wide open and really throwing it around), you get exhausted trying to fight it. If you just let the sled do the work and counter steer to maneuver, it's such an easy, stable machine and you have zero to fear as far as tight/technical riding goes.
As far as handling is concerned, I have full confidence that I can take this thing through the trees as I don't have to go nearly as fast or carry as much momentum to stay on top. If you want to do a donut, just be ready because once you counter steer to lay it down and that track hooks, you are going to feel the g's and it will throw you if you don't have your mind right.
Climbing is an absolute breeze, can't wait for this thing to get broken in to see what it can really do. I took this thing down/up a steep ravine and only had to go about 1/2 throttle, even with my 250 lbs. of lead on the sled.
We got up EARLY and were the only sleds there at 6:30am with 30"+ of powder on the main road for miles. It was so much fun that we turned around just so we could do it again before heading up top to go mess around.
One thing I noticed is that you can't ride this sled like you would a 154". I switched to my dad's 850 Etec and if I try to ride mine the same way I ride his (wide open and really throwing it around), you get exhausted trying to fight it. If you just let the sled do the work and counter steer to maneuver, it's such an easy, stable machine and you have zero to fear as far as tight/technical riding goes.
As far as handling is concerned, I have full confidence that I can take this thing through the trees as I don't have to go nearly as fast or carry as much momentum to stay on top. If you want to do a donut, just be ready because once you counter steer to lay it down and that track hooks, you are going to feel the g's and it will throw you if you don't have your mind right.
Climbing is an absolute breeze, can't wait for this thing to get broken in to see what it can really do. I took this thing down/up a steep ravine and only had to go about 1/2 throttle, even with my 250 lbs. of lead on the sled.
We got up EARLY and were the only sleds there at 6:30am with 30"+ of powder on the main road for miles. It was so much fun that we turned around just so we could do it again before heading up top to go mess around.
Thank you, sir. This weekend we rode out of Woodland, UT towards Wolf Creek Campground. Strawberry reservoir had more powder than this, but we had a group going up with new riders and this is a little more forgiving with more open space - there are still some steep hill climbs, but you could see the cracks on the cornices so we stayed off of the big hills for now.
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174 report
Put 60 miles on the 174 today with 70" bottom less no base powder at west today. I don't have the 3" I'm running the 2.8 love the 74 and the 2.8 just kept tractoring around all day. 2 thumbs up. Couldn't tell the difference between the 62 and the 74 in the trees 37" front helps to
Put 60 miles on the 174 today with 70" bottom less no base powder at west today. I don't have the 3" I'm running the 2.8 love the 74 and the 2.8 just kept tractoring around all day. 2 thumbs up. Couldn't tell the difference between the 62 and the 74 in the trees 37" front helps to
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Do you have a tether on your sled?
Carnage can happen in situations like at 1:23 . . .just sayin
Do you have a tether on your sled?
Carnage can happen in situations like at 1:23 . . .just sayin
Totally agree - nobody wants to end up on a snowmobile fail video.
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krillnecks
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Do you have a tether on your sled?
Carnage can happen in situations like at 1:23 . . .just sayin
yes im have a tether you seen it om 0,56 in the video
Any more reviews?
Every one that has one must be to busy rideing.
Mine is kind of unique. It started out as a 16 2.6 163. When I bought it the dealer installed a Polaris 3 inch with Avid drivers and an anti stab kit. A few weeks ago I put a Polaris 174 on it with a TKI belt drive geared 2.41.
The first ride it seemed a little hammer headed. I had the rear shock up tight to get a little more control with the 163. I went back to the by the book setup for both the rear suspension shocks. Made a huge difference. Sled handles great in the trees. Pushes hard. I think the gearing is spot on. I rode a 3 inch 163 pro before this. The truth is the last ride was the first time I can honestly say I prefer the Axys over the pro.
The first ride it seemed a little hammer headed. I had the rear shock up tight to get a little more control with the 163. I went back to the by the book setup for both the rear suspension shocks. Made a huge difference. Sled handles great in the trees. Pushes hard. I think the gearing is spot on. I rode a 3 inch 163 pro before this. The truth is the last ride was the first time I can honestly say I prefer the Axys over the pro.
I bought one and rode it for the first time this past weekend. I am coming off a cat so it took some getting used to. I was impressed with how easy it is to get on it side and side hill or turn. We had a T3 174 there and a 15 Pro 163 as well. The Axys 174 seemed easier to maneuver than either of those sleds. We were riding in settled fresh snow. I haven't ridden it on the hard pack.
The clutch bolt broke while full throttle and the primary clutch fell off. Hopefully that doesn't happen outside of warranty as both clutches ended up damaged.
The clutch bolt broke while full throttle and the primary clutch fell off. Hopefully that doesn't happen outside of warranty as both clutches ended up damaged.
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I've posted on this thread before, but wanted to give an update with more seat time. I own a 16 163x2.6 (completely stock) and a 17 174 (Bikeman pipe, y-pipe and bullydog tune). I also have a friend with a 17 163x3 LE (SLP single) that I have rode several times.
The 16 163x2.6 is an impressive machine for being stock and having the 2.6 track. Most days it goes everywhere and does anything the other two do. That 2.6" track works really well and doesn't give up anything to the 3" tracks except in really deep powder. Even then, it's not night and day difference. It is the most playful of the three and has a very zippy feel (it's the only one with the belt drive and is the lightest). It is the most responsive to subtle changes in rider balance and position and has the most playful front end. This can be both good and bad depending on your age and skill level. For young studs at the top of their game this is great. For old turds like me who's reflexes and balance aren't quite what they were a few years ago, it can be a handful to ride in technical situations.
Compared to the 163x2.6, the 174 feels very different. It is more stable, predictable and forgiving in technical terrain, steep climbs and rutted-up situations. I would describe it as having overall a "smoother" and more confident feel to it. It definitely spins the track less than the 163x2.6 or 163x3, and I would say the 3" track overall works better on the 174 than it does on a 163. The 174 trenches less than any machine I ever ridden, but on occasion when you do get it stuck you need a crane to dig it out (our at least a couple of friends). When climbing a steep slope you need to decide to turn-out a split second sooner if you're not going to make it than you would on the 163. Once you start to trench down, the turn-out is more difficult to initiate on the 174. Stock vs. stock I don't think anything will out climb the 174. With the Bikeman set-up, only something with a turbo will out-climb it. The biggest downside I see with the 174 is initiating an up-hill U-turn in less than ideal powder situations. With the 163 where you use track spin to help make the turn, the 174 won't spin the track as easily and instead wants to push. You can still do it, but it takes a little more effort and better technique. I find with the 174 the balance point for your foot placement on the rails is slightly further back than on a 163.
The 17 163x3 LE is somewhere in between the 163x2.6 and the 174 in handling and feel. It doesn't feel quite as lively and responsive as the 2.6 (heavier track and chain case vs. belt drive?), but in some situations the 3" track goes a little better. In the trees and deep powder there is definitely more traction and less track spin on the 174 than the 163x3, which is what you would expect.
The Bikeman set-up on the 174 has a very torquey feel to it compared to the SLP set-up on my friends 163, which I would describe a having a more "zippy" feel. Both set-up work very well and are stronger than stock, especially on the hills.
The 16 163x2.6 is an impressive machine for being stock and having the 2.6 track. Most days it goes everywhere and does anything the other two do. That 2.6" track works really well and doesn't give up anything to the 3" tracks except in really deep powder. Even then, it's not night and day difference. It is the most playful of the three and has a very zippy feel (it's the only one with the belt drive and is the lightest). It is the most responsive to subtle changes in rider balance and position and has the most playful front end. This can be both good and bad depending on your age and skill level. For young studs at the top of their game this is great. For old turds like me who's reflexes and balance aren't quite what they were a few years ago, it can be a handful to ride in technical situations.
Compared to the 163x2.6, the 174 feels very different. It is more stable, predictable and forgiving in technical terrain, steep climbs and rutted-up situations. I would describe it as having overall a "smoother" and more confident feel to it. It definitely spins the track less than the 163x2.6 or 163x3, and I would say the 3" track overall works better on the 174 than it does on a 163. The 174 trenches less than any machine I ever ridden, but on occasion when you do get it stuck you need a crane to dig it out (our at least a couple of friends). When climbing a steep slope you need to decide to turn-out a split second sooner if you're not going to make it than you would on the 163. Once you start to trench down, the turn-out is more difficult to initiate on the 174. Stock vs. stock I don't think anything will out climb the 174. With the Bikeman set-up, only something with a turbo will out-climb it. The biggest downside I see with the 174 is initiating an up-hill U-turn in less than ideal powder situations. With the 163 where you use track spin to help make the turn, the 174 won't spin the track as easily and instead wants to push. You can still do it, but it takes a little more effort and better technique. I find with the 174 the balance point for your foot placement on the rails is slightly further back than on a 163.
The 17 163x3 LE is somewhere in between the 163x2.6 and the 174 in handling and feel. It doesn't feel quite as lively and responsive as the 2.6 (heavier track and chain case vs. belt drive?), but in some situations the 3" track goes a little better. In the trees and deep powder there is definitely more traction and less track spin on the 174 than the 163x3, which is what you would expect.
The Bikeman set-up on the 174 has a very torquey feel to it compared to the SLP set-up on my friends 163, which I would describe a having a more "zippy" feel. Both set-up work very well and are stronger than stock, especially on the hills.
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Thanks for all the replies to this thread new iron comes this way in 18. 174le with tki and boost we will be set.
Just wanted to provide an update.
I LOVE THIS SLED!!!
It will literally go anywhere, including places that you probably shouldn't go. Powder depth really isn't an issue as it just keeps tractoring.
For the tight stuff, it's all about technique. I can follow my dad/brothers on their 154" 850's anywhere with confidence and when we get into the really deep stuff, I end up breaking the trail for them.
As for climbing, (Insert:I'm only an amateur rider), I still have a set of highmarks at Soapstone where folks have tried time and time again but haven't been able to match them - I can assure you that it was not attributable to my mediocre riding abilities. The 3"x174" track just doesn't quit.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Sledderz/1408085122598135/?notif_t=like¬if_id=1488119215819071
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(If you know this hill - you know the camera doesn't do it justice)
Lastly, this sled holds and edge and sidehills...period. You will be hard pressed to find a hill where you feel like you are washing out.
Does the longer track push in the corners on the trail? Yes - but the more important question is, why are you on the trail other than to get to your riding spot?
The only mods I've made to the sled are an HPS can (love), powermadd 2" riser (I'm 6'5") and zbros dual-rate springs with stiffer springs in the rear which add about an inch of additional ride height.
I weigh about 280 lbs. with gear on and was bottoming out the rear suspension here and there on drops and tree lines.
Only thing left that I would want to do to it would be a 36" front end and a blow dryer to really make things interesting.
I LOVE THIS SLED!!!
It will literally go anywhere, including places that you probably shouldn't go. Powder depth really isn't an issue as it just keeps tractoring.
For the tight stuff, it's all about technique. I can follow my dad/brothers on their 154" 850's anywhere with confidence and when we get into the really deep stuff, I end up breaking the trail for them.
As for climbing, (Insert:I'm only an amateur rider), I still have a set of highmarks at Soapstone where folks have tried time and time again but haven't been able to match them - I can assure you that it was not attributable to my mediocre riding abilities. The 3"x174" track just doesn't quit.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Sledderz/1408085122598135/?notif_t=like¬if_id=1488119215819071
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(If you know this hill - you know the camera doesn't do it justice)
Lastly, this sled holds and edge and sidehills...period. You will be hard pressed to find a hill where you feel like you are washing out.
Does the longer track push in the corners on the trail? Yes - but the more important question is, why are you on the trail other than to get to your riding spot?
The only mods I've made to the sled are an HPS can (love), powermadd 2" riser (I'm 6'5") and zbros dual-rate springs with stiffer springs in the rear which add about an inch of additional ride height.
I weigh about 280 lbs. with gear on and was bottoming out the rear suspension here and there on drops and tree lines.
Only thing left that I would want to do to it would be a 36" front end and a blow dryer to really make things interesting.
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