since when has old friend been closed? What is the reason for the closure?
09/10 Pine Pass Conditions
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That goes double for me! I can't find any info that anywhere in the pass is closed. I did hear paterson was closed but can't find any info on it.
Can anyone recommend a good place to ride in the Crownest Pass area? Me and a buddy are heading out that way this weekend to explore.
We're both pretty experienced, normally ride Gorman/Quartz/Revy and do a lot of snowboard shuttles, so we're hoping to come across something that gets us up into the alpine.
Thanks!!
We're both pretty experienced, normally ride Gorman/Quartz/Revy and do a lot of snowboard shuttles, so we're hoping to come across something that gets us up into the alpine.
Thanks!!
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Powderhound101
Member
Until they put up a sign in the parking lot saying i can't unload or have a cop there to tell me i can't ride, i will continue to ride everywhere in the pass. Its about time we get some representation in some level of government.
As for helping out the greenies by following them at 30km/h thru the pass, and pulling their sh**box 1983 volkswagen diesel polluting garbage pile out of the ditches and snowbanks so they can do more research to shut down more land, well, thats over.
I was told this once, what would you do? Say two identical twin kids come to your door, one needs money to go to school to be a doctor and wants to cure cancer. The other kid wants to go to school to take arts and paint murals. Which one you gonna give money to?
As for helping out the greenies by following them at 30km/h thru the pass, and pulling their sh**box 1983 volkswagen diesel polluting garbage pile out of the ditches and snowbanks so they can do more research to shut down more land, well, thats over.
I was told this once, what would you do? Say two identical twin kids come to your door, one needs money to go to school to be a doctor and wants to cure cancer. The other kid wants to go to school to take arts and paint murals. Which one you gonna give money to?
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WesG
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Old Friend closure
Its closed for Mountain Caribou closure. Here's the link
http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/wildlife/snowmobile-closures/
Its area 42. We definately need to get our areas solidified so they cannot take them away!
Its closed for Mountain Caribou closure. Here's the link
http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/wildlife/snowmobile-closures/
Its area 42. We definately need to get our areas solidified so they cannot take them away!
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brendan ross
Well-known member
what are the penalties if they catch you up there is my question
well that doesn't exactly cover all of old friend, by my somewhat inadequate mapping skills it isn't closed until you cross over around the peak and start heading down into the colbourne/reynolds/parsnip drainages am I wrong? So really any sign posted in the parking lot saying the area is out of bounds would be incorrect and I have full rights to unload and ride in the misinchinka drainage.....somebody please enlighten me if I'm wrong..
These closure's are at least in part from the brains from the enviromental studies group at UNBC they are actively involved at all times along with the ministry of forests. All i could find on the hassler area was the fact that after last years avy's there is a study being done at UNBC on the dangerous avy area's, they are actually going out and mapping these areas. Personally i think they are finding reasons to shut sledders out of wherever they can and to me there is a huge conflict of interest going on here, they are not going in with a open mind towards sledders they just want them gone. Its not only sledders its also helicopters, atv's, ect... so unless you are a artist or photographer or something that they believe wont hurt the natural enviroment you shouldn't be there. For some reason there is a real push to close sledders out maybe we are easy prey i dont know as far as i am concerned we are honest taxpayers and snowmobiling is part of our country's heritage so for any one group of people who probably dont even pay much taxes tell us what we can or cant do is total BS, but its happening everywhere and they have others who support their efforts mostly people who bug the government everyday while we are out working so we can enjoy the fine things our great outdoors has to offer, i would like to hear from the government exactly where they stand on this issue cause while the greens keep making noise and area's are shut down the government is real tight lipped and not saying much of anything. Maybe it is time to make noise because they know that when the snow is gone so are we and they have all winter to build their case, sorry for ranting but this stuff really pisses me off. There is no easy answer to the problems we are facing but i would like to see the government come out and show us wtf is going on here, it dont make sence to me enough land has been taken away for their study's it has to stop here, i may be off but the university is doing lots of studies in the north and the general consensus seems to be keep all forms of motorized users out.
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what are the penalties if they catch you up there is my question
The penalty will be wrecking it for everyone else when they shut the whole area down because people can't follow the law/rules.
We all need to get our "stuff" together and protect what areas we do have open because once they close they will never re-open.
Ride Tomorrow???
Just wondering if anyone is ridin in the pass tomorrow? looking to catch up with someone on my way through. let me know. thanks steve
Just wondering if anyone is ridin in the pass tomorrow? looking to catch up with someone on my way through. let me know. thanks steve
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Koby
Active member
Your right Kane13, there is no easy answer, but what I do know, is that if we "collectively" have to get our **** togeather, or we're going to loose.
So, I will be joining and actively participating in the snowmobile club/clubs as much as I can going forward. I admit to being complacent, and simply reaping the benefits of the hard work of others. That stops now. I will be part of the solution.
So, I will be joining and actively participating in the snowmobile club/clubs as much as I can going forward. I admit to being complacent, and simply reaping the benefits of the hard work of others. That stops now. I will be part of the solution.
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It seems we will all have to join together to protect riding areas (ie join local clubs) or we are going to lose everywhere except the land you own.. I think I bought too big of a track to ride in my back yard.
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Thunderguy BOOSTED
Well-known member
YA!! But your/our back yard are those mountains!! And those mother ****ers are trying to kick us out of our own back yard!!
We live 2 and a half hours from any town and we still see areas getting closed!! AND where i live we see like NO SLEDDERS!! its 6 sleds out there the whole season!!! (me and my fam)
Justin
Yeah, these closures suck. The powers to be are unfortunately winning the battle over land rights....and you know it's not even about the caribou. The biggest problem that I have figured out about all of this....is that our numbers are great that are using these areas in the mountains, but our numbers aren't so great when it comes time to lobby and keep our areas. Our voice isn't EVEN HEARD. For the few people that stand up, join their club and try to protect what areas we do have left....THANK YOU. I found this little blurb a while back on a club website and it basically covers this ongoing problem.....
"In regards to the closures....Snowmobilers MUST respect the boundaries that have been drawn to assist the mountain caribou, whether we agree or not. Compliance will be monitored and more areas can be lost if boundaries are not respected. It is critical that sledders be aware of where they are in any given area and respect all boundaries. Good stewardship practices are critical for our ability to access many areas.
Before you travel to an area new to you, do your research, find out if closures or restrictions are in effect and where they are. Respect signage, contact your local club for information. KNOW BEFORE YOU GO.
Remember 5% of the Snowmobilers
Cause 100% Of The Problems. Don't be the fool
that causes a CLOSURE.
Don't be a five percenter.
Sledders riding in closed areas sometimes think that they have gotten away with their foolishness, not realizing that their tracks will remain visible for weeks even if buried under a meter of fresh snow and an aircraft flying the area can simply take a picture that can lead to further restrictions. Sledders must take charge of their own future. Report violators!
"In regards to the closures....Snowmobilers MUST respect the boundaries that have been drawn to assist the mountain caribou, whether we agree or not. Compliance will be monitored and more areas can be lost if boundaries are not respected. It is critical that sledders be aware of where they are in any given area and respect all boundaries. Good stewardship practices are critical for our ability to access many areas.
Before you travel to an area new to you, do your research, find out if closures or restrictions are in effect and where they are. Respect signage, contact your local club for information. KNOW BEFORE YOU GO.
Remember 5% of the Snowmobilers
Cause 100% Of The Problems. Don't be the fool
that causes a CLOSURE.
Don't be a five percenter.
Sledders riding in closed areas sometimes think that they have gotten away with their foolishness, not realizing that their tracks will remain visible for weeks even if buried under a meter of fresh snow and an aircraft flying the area can simply take a picture that can lead to further restrictions. Sledders must take charge of their own future. Report violators!
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HANDSOME
Well-known member
If the number of people who have read this page were to get a club membership we would have a hope at stopping this. People who want to sit back and say I'll believe when I see it need a kick in the nuts. If everyone thinks that someone else will fix it for them if they just sit back and wait , nothing will be accomplished. BUY A CLUB MEMBERSHIP AND GET YOUR FRIENDS TO AS WELL.
I agree that we have to stand up and make our voice be heard, but unfortunately being an Albertan resident and not paying taxes in BC, my voice will not be heard by the governing body.
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HANDSOME
Well-known member
When you are in B.C you pay, I wonder if you bought a membership if it would count ? Good point anyway. Another point ... if the dealerships threw in a complimentary membership with the purchase of a new atv or sled would help bring the numbers up. Maybe if it was mandatory like registration, everyone would have a membership. We need something like this to happen, its our country too!!
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