08 Tundra 5.7 ????

[skibreeze]

who gives a hoot if i cant spell or type right! you guys post a bunch of posts and no info sounds like the snowest i know.
p.s. i drive this truck at 80mph
hits the hills drops to 70 unless you give it a little gas. to upshift
dont get me wrong i like the truck and tows good with the two place.

If you want post hogs, go visit the limit thread in fouled plug.
I'd rather be known as a post hog vs. someone who needs to go back to grammar school to learn basic English. Your post was almost as useless, as well as ignorant. Do you actually believe that you are not supposed to use the "tow /haul" mode unless your towing at the trucks max. capacity (10,000 lbs)? Also, how useless is "it usually takes $45 to $55 to fill"?

Back to the subject at hand;

The reliability of the Toyota should be good, but they haven't been as good as in years past. Towing a 4 place with the truck will be just fine, and depending on hwy speeds, passes, and altitude, I'd expect around 10mpg at best. There is no comparison to the low end torque of the cummins or the mileage that most of them get. Each truck will have it's pluses and minuses. The toy will be more comfortable, the cummins would drag that trailer around much easier. As stated by another, the 3/4 ton trucks are rated for much less capacity than they are really capable of. The right truck will be different for every buyer depending on budget, and mainly how he plans on using it. My guess is that you will really miss the cummins when you have the trailer hooked up to the tundra.

 

[509 jw]

tundra goes in the trash bin !!! snowmobiling related only!!!!!!

 

[mod03rmk800]

This is one of those stupid questions that will get all kinds of stupid responses.
So heres goes mine.
So you buy a rig that you want to pull possibly a 4 place trailer, with sleds in it I assume. Instead of hooking it up and going for a "test" tow, you post on the general snowmobile thread, which I assume for the largest possible views and ask if it will handle it? A person can't even ask if brand X sled can handle getting off the trailer without a bashing of sorts. Always is and always will be speculation as to how YOUR machine(truck) will handle whatever on whatever day to whatever your expectations might be.
My thinking is this.
Daily driver/occasional light tow(under 10K)= gasser
Daily tow/heavy load=diesel

 

[arcticridr]

Buy it you won't be dissapointed, I have owned Tundra's since 01 and have been nothing but happy ZERO PROBLEMS!! If you really want a diesel by the Cummins awsome truck, or wait till the 09's come out and buy a Toyota Diesel probibly have the Cat diesel motor. I have an 07 D/C trd 4x4 with the 5.7. I routinely get 20-21.5 on the hiway @ 70-75 mph!! Power is smoothe and linear , Pulled my 2 place from Nor-cal to Mammoth few weeks ago mix of mtns and flats and averaged 16.5 with two sleds @ 65 mph. The truck is amazing in the snow, traction control and auto Lsd's you cant hardly turn it sideways!!! I also pull a 25' proline ocean fishing boat, approx 7000lbs with trailer and normally get 13-14 mpg @ 55mph really doesn't care what you pull, now if you are gonna pull 15,000 lbs regularly buy a diesel of some sort. And as far as "riceburner" they are built in Texas and many other states , only thing "riceburner is the Superior engineering..... Oh add a cat-back exhaust and cold air intake and you will be right @ 410 hp .. I think you can now get the Crew max with the 8' bed even more room!!

 

[arcticridr]

newmtnsldr Pm'd ya

 

[Xrider]

Another thing to consider are maintenance costs, much higher for the diesel. Oil changes, parts etc.

 

[Climbmax]

Truck bashing is jsut like sled bashing I see
I have a Duramax for pulling and a Tundra for driving......now I wish the Tundra would pull like the D max......wouldn't need 2 trucks
Tundra has huge re-sale........unlike the dmax
When Toyota introduces their deisel I'm sure Detroit will be nervous
RS

 

[NewMTNsldr]

This is one of those stupid questions that will get all kinds of stupid responses.
So heres goes mine.

So, why is it a stupid question? And even more mind bending why do people who think it is a stupid question feel compelled to respond to it? Is it really that hard to look at a thread and say "geez I have no value to add to this thread, therefore I am not going to post anything"? I don’t know, it must just be me? It’s not like I asked which one do you think is better….I simply asked for feedback from people who are pulling with the Tundra (WHICH AGAIN you do not have) yet you feel compelled to share your worldly all knowing knowledge with all and add 0 value to this thread…. Once again as I reflect, I am not sure how I ever made a decision without consulting you first. Thanks for clearing things up for me…. I am much better now….

 

[wideopenlemans]

If you want post hogs, go visit the limit thread in fouled plug.
I'd rather be known as a post hog vs. someone who needs to go back to grammar school to learn basic English. Your post was almost as useless, as well as ignorant. Do you actually believe that you are not supposed to use the "tow /haul" mode unless your towing at the trucks max. capacity (10,000 lbs)? Also, how useless is "it usually takes $45 to $55 to fill"?

Back to the subject at hand;

The reliability of the Toyota should be good, but they haven't been as good as in years past. Towing a 4 place with the truck will be just fine, and depending on hwy speeds, passes, and altitude, I'd expect around 10mpg at best. There is no comparison to the low end torque of the cummins or the mileage that most of them get. Each truck will have it's pluses and minuses. The toy will be more comfortable, the cummins would drag that trailer around much easier. As stated by another, the 3/4 ton trucks are rated for much less capacity than they are really capable of. The right truck will be different for every buyer depending on budget, and mainly how he plans on using it. My guess is that you will really miss the cummins when you have the trailer hooked up to the tundra.

Like you said should be good you dont have one !!so your info is useless yes with gas prices up. it takes 45.00 to 55.00 to fill. Like you said my guess is!
you have no clue let alone afford to buy a new truck.

 

[pura vida]

back to the point

i am also looking at getting a new truck. right now i am trying to decide between the 3/4 ton 6.0 chevy/gmc or the tundra. by just the hp and torque numbers i should go with the tundra. price is about the same and the "advertised" mpg is fairly close with a slight edge to the tundra. how accurate either of those are i do not know.

i drove a tundra pulling a loaded enclosed 4 place. pulled it really nice, definitely pulled/towed better than my 99 chevy 6.0 but the 6.0 has 175K on it. it is getting a little tired. but i am concerned with the fact the tundra is "only" a half ton even though there numbers are exactly the same if not better then the chevy 2500 6.0. where would the half ton be a detriment? and what is the limiting factor that makes the toy a half ton rather than 3/4?

the max i will ever tow is 10k lbs and 99% of the time it will be between 7-8K lbs. (so i really don't think i can justify a diesel) why would the chevy be better than the tundra for this? also, since i am comparing gas to gas, is there a reason the chevy would be a better tower in any situation?

pv

 

[OuraySledder]

i am also looking at getting a new truck. right now i am trying to decide between the 3/4 ton 6.0 chevy/gmc or the tundra. by just the hp and torque numbers i should go with the tundra. price is about the same and the "advertised" mpg is fairly close with a slight edge to the tundra. how accurate either of those are i do not know.

i drove a tundra pulling a loaded enclosed 4 place. pulled it really nice, definitely pulled/towed better than my 99 chevy 6.0 but the 6.0 has 175K on it. it is getting a little tired. but i am concerned with the fact the tundra is "only" a half ton even though there numbers are exactly the same if not better then the chevy 2500 6.0. where would the half ton be a detriment? and what is the limiting factor that makes the toy a half ton rather than 3/4?

the max i will ever tow is 10k lbs and 99% of the time it will be between 7-8K lbs. (so i really don't think i can justify a diesel) why would the chevy be better than the tundra for this? also, since i am comparing gas to gas, is there a reason the chevy would be a better tower in any situation?

pv

I have always err'ed on the side of having a bigger truck than I need. It is nice to have a margin of safety. I would agree with some of the earlier posts that 1/2 ton trucks are optomistically rated and 3/4 tons conservatively rated. I would look closely at where the torque peaks fall for the respective engines. The lower, the better for towing. It sure seems like there is a lot of hype about the new Tundra. Obviously GM has been building trucks a lot longer and IMO they are better at full sized trucks. A good friend of mine has the previous generation Tundra and carries a small slide in camper. He has had a leaf spring break and some other issues. He has changed back to a full sized Ford now. Regardles of advertising and statistics I think the Tundra is a good truck for someone who relly doesn't need a truck.

 

[SnowSnob]

Got an 08, LOVE IT.
Only tow a 2-place but can't really tell it's back there.
Haven't really heard anyone who bought one and didn't like it.....well execpt on here cause this is where everyone goes to betch....and post useless chet.

 

[Clayton]

The older Tundras looked so much better. The new body style is hideous. WTF were those designers smoking???

 

[asu_gt]

I have 08 Tundra Crew Max that tows a 29' enclosed V-nose car hauler. I used the Tundra to pull that trailer from Iowa to Ohio; I was hauling a 1958 Chevy Apache pick-up and some other random parts and items. Combined trailer + payload weight was right around 9700 pounds. Obviously, I did not encounter any hill/mountains on this drive. I was very pleased with the performance of the Tundra. We averaged, based on real calculations not the vehicle computer, 12.2 mpg; speed was kept between 65-70 mph.

I have a weight distributing hitch and anti-sway kit.

I perseverated over which truck to buy, after testing all the major 1/2 ton and some 3/4 ton trucks the Tundra was the clear leader. I would recommend a backup camera as the bed depth on this truck (i.e. tailgate) tends to block your line of sight.

I would certainly buy this truck again as it sreves me well (e.g. pulling this trailer and this load and similar loads around the midwest ~4-5 time per year). If I were towing this trailer every day I would probably go with a 3/4 ton diesel.
Jay

 

[Jaynelson]

I have always err'ed on the side of having a bigger truck than I need. It is nice to have a margin of safety. I would agree with some of the earlier posts that 1/2 ton trucks are optomistically rated and 3/4 tons conservatively rated. I would look closely at where the torque peaks fall for the respective engines. The lower, the better for towing. It sure seems like there is a lot of hype about the new Tundra. Obviously GM has been building trucks a lot longer and IMO they are better at full sized trucks. A good friend of mine has the previous generation Tundra and carries a small slide in camper. He has had a leaf spring break and some other issues. He has changed back to a full sized Ford now. Regardles of advertising and statistics I think the Tundra is a good truck for someone who relly doesn't need a truck.

Doesn't really need a truck, WTF are you talking about? So if a guy wants to haul a sled or 2 in the back/on a deck, haul some dirtbikes, quad, and/or pull a decent sized trailer/boat/whatever then his only options are a car or a 3/4 ton diesel? I either have to buy an 11,000lb++ trailer or not need a truck.....man what a waste of a truck, I should have just bolted a hitch to my Civic and strapped my sled to the roof! NO ONE TOLD ME

 

[OuraySledder]

Doesn't really need a truck, WTF are you talking about? So if a guy wants to haul a sled or 2 in the back/on a deck, haul some dirtbikes, quad, and/or pull a decent sized trailer/boat/whatever then his only options are a car or a 3/4 ton diesel? I either have to buy an 11,000lb++ trailer or not need a truck.....man what a waste of a truck, I should have just bolted a hitch to my Civic and strapped my sled to the roof! NO ONE TOLD ME

No, those are MY only options because I wouldn't buy some pu$$y half ton truck. BTW, I'd love to see your half ton with loaded sled deck driving the mountain roads around here. That pile would roll into the 1000 ft deep ravine before you made it half way to the unload point Why not buy a 3/4 or 1-ton truck? They are hardly any more money, don't use any more fuel than a mini truck or SUV an you have capacity beyond your needs. What's wrong with that? I still maintain that the 1/2 tons are almost all used as cars, so why not just buy one?

 

[cmantle1]

No, those are MY only options because I wouldn't buy some pu$$y half ton truck. BTW, I'd love to see your half ton with loaded sled deck driving the mountain roads around here. That pile would roll into the 1000 ft deep ravine before you made it half way to the unload point Why not buy a 3/4 or 1-ton truck? They are hardly any more money, don't use any more fuel than a mini truck or SUV an you have capacity beyond your needs. What's wrong with that? I still maintain that the 1/2 tons are almost all used as cars, so why not just buy one?

This is where i wave the BS flag....hardly anymore money?? i got quoted at 55k for the chevy diesel i wanted, and a Tundra with comparable inside (both Crew cabs) was 38. Mabye 17 grand isnt alot to you, but it is to me. If the poster of the thread got the Tundra and decided he can deal with going 10 mph slower up the pass, he could have a tricked out new sled with the money he saved.

And as fuel prices continue to rise that "little bit" more on fuel could go into his new sled....

 

[Jaynelson]

No, those are MY only options because I wouldn't buy some pu$$y half ton truck. BTW, I'd love to see your half ton with loaded sled deck driving the mountain roads around here. That pile would roll into the 1000 ft deep ravine before you made it half way to the unload point Why not buy a 3/4 or 1-ton truck? They are hardly any more money, don't use any more fuel than a mini truck or SUV an you have capacity beyond your needs. What's wrong with that? I still maintain that the 1/2 tons are almost all used as cars, so why not just buy one?

Well, I live in the West Kootenay's of BC, so I highly doubt your roads are any more mountainous than mine. My old POS 98 1/4 ton Tacoma with a single sled in the back drove right past EVERY 3/4 and 1-ton with a sled deck for 2 springs. Locked in the diff, hit the gas, and drove right past. As far as guys without chains, me and my friend (also driving a Tacoma) unloaded farther up the road than any 1/2, 3/4, or 1-ton ever did in the spring....so if that's the game, I guess the way to win it is with a Tacoma

Why not buy a 3/4 or 1-ton?
- They're slow as arse with the gas motors
- The diesels are nice, but the price premium is quite large IMO....too large if I don't need it
- Once you get that diesel, the maintenence is much more expensive, and the US stuff wears out parts at rates I've never seen Toyotas go through
- Ride quality, turning circle, interior refinement, bells and wistles are very nice in 1/2 tons.....sled on the weekend, drive business associates around during the week kinda thing.
- Don't pull over 10,000lbs
- Don't haul more than 2 sleds + deck, which a Tundra will do very easily...

Again, if I want to haul a sled in the back and an open 3 place, which I've done almost every weekend since november.....what part of that is not working fine with a 1/2 ton? I've got a 4500lb boat, a sled, a dirtbike, and friends with all the same crap that like to come along. Ya I need a truck, but none of that stuff is heavy enough that a 300hp+ 1/2 ton can't still get it there at twice the speed limit.

I think it's hilarious that guys are SOOOO scared of the new Tundra that they have to come out of the woodwork to justify their brand X. That right there shows you the impact this truck has....

 

[cmantle1]

Well, I live in the West Kootenay's of BC, so I highly doubt your roads are any more mountainous than mine. My old POS 98 1/4 ton Tacoma with a single sled in the back drove right past EVERY 3/4 and 1-ton with a sled deck for 2 springs. Locked in the diff, hit the gas, and drove right past. As far as guys without chains, me and my friend (also driving a Tacoma) unloaded farther up the road than any 1/2, 3/4, or 1-ton ever did in the spring....so if that's the game, I guess the way to win it is with a Tacoma

Why not buy a 3/4 or 1-ton?
- They're slow as arse with the gas motors
- The diesels are nice, but the price premium is quite large IMO....too large if I don't need it
- Once you get that diesel, the maintenence is much more expensive, and the US stuff wears out parts at rates I've never seen Toyotas go through
- Ride quality, turning circle, interior refinement, bells and wistles are very nice in 1/2 tons.....sled on the weekend, drive business associates around during the week kinda thing.
- Don't pull over 10,000lbs
- Don't haul more than 2 sleds + deck, which a Tundra will do very easily...

Again, if I want to haul a sled in the back and an open 3 place, which I've done almost every weekend since november.....what part of that is not working fine with a 1/2 ton? I've got a 4500lb boat, a sled, a dirtbike, and friends with all the same crap that like to come along. Ya I need a truck, but none of that stuff is heavy enough that a 300hp+ 1/2 ton can't still get it there at twice the speed limit.

I think it's hilarious that guys are SOOOO scared of the new Tundra that they have to come out of the woodwork to justify their brand X. That right there shows you the impact this truck has....

YOTA FOR LIFE!!! hahhaa. Funny story that relates to your tacoma story, i was in Utah this year when they got like 30 inches overnight, and my buddies and i are on the road up to go skiing in his 84 4 runner and we passed probably 3 huge lifted dodges stuck......

 

[mod03rmk800]

So, why is it a stupid question? And even more mind bending why do people who think it is a stupid question feel compelled to respond to it? Is it really that hard to look at a thread and say "geez I have no value to add to this thread, therefore I am not going to post anything"? I don’t know, it must just be me? It’s not like I asked which one do you think is better….I simply asked for feedback from people who are pulling with the Tundra (WHICH AGAIN you do not have) yet you feel compelled to share your worldly all knowing knowledge with all and add 0 value to this thread…. Once again as I reflect, I am not sure how I ever made a decision without consulting you first. Thanks for clearing things up for me…. I am much better now….

I wasn't calling YOU stupid, only the context of the question.
Maybe I misunderstood your first post? But I thought you said that you already bought the tundra then wanted to know how it pulled a trailer.
I will agree that I'm no expert but I work highway construction and use everything from a colorado to a 425hp International. 1/4 ton up to 82,000# ratings all over montana. And I can tell you that what one person says is good for towing is another's nightmare. There is a lot to be said as for the stability of the towing vehicle and the load. I say you would be happy with your choice. Maybe less mpg than the cummins towing. I have a dakota with the 4.7 and pull a 24 ft camper with a two place trailor on the back of that with @1500# of 4 wheelers on it. I am fine with the 7-9 mpg on the flats and 4-6 up hills. But I would guess that some might say that is a knuckleheaded combination!!