08 Tundra 5.7 ????

[wideopenlemans]

looks like posts hogs and no good info

Don't forget proper sentence structure and correct spelling.

who gives a hoot if i cant spell or type right! you guys post a bunch of posts and no info sounds like the snowest i know.
p.s. i drive this truck at 80mph
hits the hills drops to 70 unless you give it a little gas. to upshift
dont get me wrong i like the truck and tows good with the two place.

 

[Vertical Xtreme]

I've got a neighbor who traded his 06 mega cab cummins off for a tundra b/c he never got more than 14 mpg empty! I've had two ford powerstrokes and an old 12 valve cummins and for years I've been hearing that the cummins is THE truck to get. Well last year I pulled the trigger and got an 05 crewcab longbox cummins. (still call it a cummins not a dodge, just cant say that) After putting 45,000 miles on it in the past year I can honestly say what a HUGE dissapointment. Trannys been out, torque converter was out, transfer case has been out lifter was stuck and now the rearend is going out. Now I admit I'm not easy on trucks but I never had anything go wrong with my powerstrokes engine or tranny or rearend. My fords had 200,000 miles on them both when I traded them off, my cummins has 63,000 miles on it. After this truck I don't think the new powerstroke is too far away. For you guys that love the cummins thats fine but I will not EVER be swayed into brand "D" again. Sorry just had to vent

 

[Seeder]

you don't need a diesel if you traded it in on a 1/2 ton Toyota

I've got a neighbor who traded his 06 mega cab cummins off for a tundra b/c he never got more than 14 mpg empty! I've had two ford powerstrokes and an old 12 valve cummins and for years I've been hearing that the cummins is THE truck to get. Well last year I pulled the trigger and got an 05 crewcab longbox cummins. (still call it a cummins not a dodge, just cant say that) After putting 45,000 miles on it in the past year I can honestly say what a HUGE dissapointment. Trannys been out, torque converter was out, transfer case has been out lifter was stuck and now the rearend is going out. Now I admit I'm not easy on trucks but I never had anything go wrong with my powerstrokes engine or tranny or rearend. My fords had 200,000 miles on them both when I traded them off, my cummins has 63,000 miles on it. After this truck I don't think the new powerstroke is too far away. For you guys that love the cummins thats fine but I will not EVER be swayed into brand "D" again. Sorry just had to vent

Every truck is different. Our 01 F-350 7.3 is on it's 5th tranny and 2nd rear end in 140K. We had a 04 6 liter ford that pukee a trans in 8K and the head gaskets went at 60K, these were both COMPLETELY STOCK trucks. I am not going to say that fords are a POS but our 05 Dodge (traded the 04 powerstroke in on it) pulls more weight than the Ford every did and it has NEVER been to the shop in 45K so far, used to plow snow as well

Not going to start a brand war but all brands will have problems and some individual trucks are worse than others.

When it comes to Diesel mileage, the Cummins is the one to beat and the low end power of the I6 cannot be matched by any other truck on the market.

Sorry to get off topic but I laugh at people who are trading in their diesels for gas trucks and trying to justify it by posting topics on forums.

If anyone can trade a heavy duty diesel truck in on a 1/2 ton gasser and be happy then they should not have had a diesel in the first place. If you still need a heavy duty truck and want a gas for the price of fuel then you are a fool because there is not a heavy duty gas truck on the market that can compare to a diesel in mileage, towing mileage and towing power. Plus the resale on a diesel is much better than a gas, how much will that Toy be worth when it has 100k on the meter?

$4+ a gallon for diesel does suck but when you need a heavy duty truck to pull heavy duty weight, you have no other choice.



-Seeder

 

[Beels]

If anyone can trade a heavy duty diesel truck in on a 1/2 ton gasser and be happy then they should not have had a diesel in the first place.

Truest thing I've read today.

 

[wideopenlemans]

dodge diesel 08 gets good gas mileage

but that truck cuts out in the rockies my friend has one he said when we were going up the mountains it would cut out and he had to pump the gas.
yes diesel is the way to tow.

 

[Kong]

I had an 04 Titan and really loved it, but it was still a 150. 150 payload and tongue weight. Having said that, with EQ hitch and sway bar, doubled towed travel trailer and ATV trailer behind that over 2 10,000" passes Durango to Silverton Colorado.

But I was at the edge of my numbers even though it handled it well. I bought a Cummins in November because I was increasing my tow weight, payload, and toungue weight.

Very very hard not to go over payload with a 150 towing heavy.


So just depends on what you do with it. Probem is you end up towing two gears down (counting overdrive) since the torque converter wants to lock up. (At least on mine you had to go to 3rd from 5th to disengage the torque lock)

Running costs aren't that far apart if at all here. First of all hardly ever beat 9mpg towing heavy with the Titan. I get 13-15 towing the same weight.

I had a 27' Wells cargo 4 place and didn't like it with the Titan and got rid of it after one season. The truck would handle it via powertrain, but it pushed the truck around on the forrest roads and on Wolf Creek pass.

So just depends on how you use it. I tow heavy in the summer.

I had to drive my truck every day and really liked the Titan. It hauled butt and was very comfortable.

So good luck and hopefully you'll do well. The new Tundra has a monster power train.


Oh yeah, I bought the 07 Cummins with a 4 speed and 5.9 just to get maximum mileage. I don't care if I'm not the fastest one over the hill. Duramax is awesome and outstanding power, but not near the mpg's.

 

[NewMTNsldr]

Every truck is different. Our 01 F-350 7.3 is on it's 5th tranny and 2nd rear end in 140K. We had a 04 6 liter ford that pukee a trans in 8K and the head gaskets went at 60K, these were both COMPLETELY STOCK trucks. I am not going to say that fords are a POS but our 05 Dodge (traded the 04 powerstroke in on it) pulls more weight than the Ford every did and it has NEVER been to the shop in 45K so far, used to plow snow as well

Not going to start a brand war but all brands will have problems and some individual trucks are worse than others.

When it comes to Diesel mileage, the Cummins is the one to beat and the low end power of the I6 cannot be matched by any other truck on the market.

Sorry to get off topic but I laugh at people who are trading in their diesels for gas trucks and trying to justify it by posting topics on forums.

If anyone can trade a heavy duty diesel truck in on a 1/2 ton gasser and be happy then they should not have had a diesel in the first place. If you still need a heavy duty truck and want a gas for the price of fuel then you are a fool because there is not a heavy duty gas truck on the market that can compare to a diesel in mileage, towing mileage and towing power. Plus the resale on a diesel is much better than a gas, how much will that Toy be worth when it has 100k on the meter?

$4+ a gallon for diesel does suck but when you need a heavy duty truck to pull heavy duty weight, you have no other choice.



-Seeder

I was not trying to justify anything? I was simply asking if anyone had first hand knowledge (which obviously you don't) of how the Tundra pulls. The Tundra has a 10,000 pound tow rating the 3/4 ton Dodge is only 12 something...Not that big of a gap in my book.... I know for a fact I was spending $150 every week and a half on diesel fuel and am very hopeful that number will drop drastically with the new truck. Don't get me wrong, besides the 5 times in 49K miles I had to have the transmission worked on, I loved my cummins.... and maybe your right... if the Tundra pulls a 4 place enclosed OK then I guess I didn't need the diesel after all...

But thanks for your insightful, yet completely uninformative post!

KONG, did they make the 04 Tundra with the 5.7 in it? I thought this was the fist year with the 5.7 and I don't think the 04 had the same tow rating as the new one? Or am I wrong?

Again... I am not trying to debate which truck is better... obviously there is way too much "Mine is better than everyone else's" mentality on this sight.... I am simply looking for folks who have first hand experience towing with an 08 Tundra... to see how they like it.... Thanks

 

[Seeder]

I was not trying to justify anything? I was simply asking if anyone had first hand knowledge (which obviously you don't) of how the Tundra pulls. The Tundra has a 10,000 pound tow rating the 3/4 ton Dodge is only 12 something...Not that big of a gap in my book.... I know for a fact I was spending $150 every week and a half on diesel fuel and am very hopeful that number will drop drastically with the new truck. Don't get me wrong, besides the 5 times in 49K miles I had to have the transmission worked on, I loved my cummins.... and maybe your right... if the Tundra pulls a 4 place enclosed OK then I guess I didn't need the diesel after all...

But thanks for your insightful, yet completely uninformative post!

KONG, did they make the 04 Tundra with the 5.7 in it? I thought this was the fist year with the 5.7 and I don't think the 04 had the same tow rating as the new one? Or am I wrong?

Again... I am not trying to debate which truck is better... obviously there is way too much "Mine is better than everyone else's" mentality on this sight.... I am simply looking for folks who have first hand experience towing with an 08 Tundra... to see how they like it.... Thanks

Sorry to have come off harsh, but to asnwer your original post, yes you will miss the low end grunt of the Cummins. As stated in another post about revving the engine this is exactly what thses new gas engines need to do. They build HP and TQ as the RPM's increase unlike a diesel when the HP builds but the TQ hits peaks and levels off around 1500 rpm.

When I had my 03 Chev HD gas it would pull great when left in third and the engine would be spinning around 3500-3800 rpm but running long distance like that was hard on fuel. Be sure to look where your truck builds its power and tow in that range to benifit from the 381 hp and 401 tq that that thing is suppose to produce otherwise the power is worthless.

One other thing I would recommend looking into is a Programmer from hypertech. I installed one in my Chev HD and it made a big difference and would help 1-2 mpg's in unloaded daily driving conditions.

BTW, instead of paying $4+ for diesel I drive my Honda civic to work and all other driving needs, only use my Cummins for towing.

 

[Dano702]

I cant belive you guys like those Tundra's , that is so funny! I would not be caught dead in one of those rice burners. I guess i have way to much pride in my country , i try to buy from this country as much as i can.

A guy at work was trying to tell me his camry was an american car. It is made in the USA he said , what a pole smoker. He is going to vote for Hillary too , what a suprise.

I own two 3/4 Ton trucks that we use for towing. My truck pulls an excavator that weighs 8000 lbs , so its about 11,500 going down the road. The Av is mostly used for a Bobcat and an enclosed 4 place , both trucks have been flawless since new.

When my HD gets to 150,000 miles i will replace it with the new version of the same truck , and pass this one down to my brother. I will still own this Duramax 10 years from now , and i am sure it will still run just fine.

If i could get away with a 1/2 ton , i would be in an 08 GMC. The new GM trucks get the best MPG out of all the full size trucks.

 

[Kong]

No I had the Nissan Titan. I was citing that experience since their ratings are so close and I went from a GMC 3500 dually to the Titan to save gas and wear as a daily driver. So pretty similar towing experience. Like you said the new Tundra is 10,000 tow rate Titan was 9500#.

Also I was citing my experience towing very heavy with the Titan.
7000# Coachman trailer with 100 gallons of water.
Trailer with Grizzly ATV on it and Honda 4500 generator and junk
Two dirt bikes in the back of the Titan and gear
I was right at my 9500# or a bit over.
I was over on tounge weight
I was over a bit on payload

Hence my statement that the power train handled it all great. Chasis/suspension was pushed. 315HP 6200 rpm motor 385# torque.
I put 97,000 miles on it no power train problems at all. I did add a bigger rear diff cover.

I encourage you to check your payload rating. Titan was 1650# but as the trucks get bigger/heavier, longer beds etc that number sometimes goes down a bit.

The Tundra will do it based on the tow need that you state. Just watch the numbers if you do it all the time. You can put overload bags etc on it if you get too much payload weight on it.

If you have any 1/2 ton problems it is almost always the payload. Also check your tires you may have to go up a rating.


Just a BTW you can't compare the HD's 2500's tow rating at 12500# to the 1/2 ton. They under rate those or you would have to pay big taxes since higher rating put them into another category. Most of those trucks will easily tow 16000# and higher AND they aren't even straining at 12,500#

Not dissing the Tundra at all. Been there (pretty much) and done that. Just do what you think is best. The important thing is to get out and have fun.

Good luck

 

[Kong]

I cant belive you guys like those Tundra's , that is so funny! I would not be caught dead in one of those rice burners. I guess i have way to much pride in my country , i try to buy from this country as much as i can.

A guy at work was trying to tell me his camry was an american car. It is made in the USA he said , what a pole smoker. He is going to vote for Hillary too , what a suprise.

I own two 3/4 Ton trucks that we use for towing. My truck pulls an excavator that weighs 8000 lbs , so its about 11,500 going down the road. The Av is mostly used for a Bobcat and an enclosed 4 place , both trucks have been flawless since new.


When my HD gets to 150,000 miles i will replace it with the new version of the same truck , and pass this one down to my brother. I will still own this Duramax 10 years from now , and i am sure it will still run just fine.

If i could get away with a 1/2 ton , i would be in an 08 GMC. The new GM trucks get the best MPG out of all the full size trucks.

Both of my new vehicles are "American" but don't fool yourself. There is no such thing anymore.

All the trucks we talk about are built in the US. The US trucks have just as many foreign parts in them as the foreign trucks. They also both have US parts. Mucho stuff from Mexico and South America too by the way.

The US companies aren't even US owned anymore. I did an exhaustive search on this in November and it is surprising. They are part of international conglomerates/large capital companies.

Sorry... it's a new world.

 

[NewMTNsldr]

I cant belive you guys like those Tundra's , that is so funny! I would not be caught dead in one of those rice burners. I guess i have way to much pride in my country , i try to buy from this country as much as i can.

A guy at work was trying to tell me his camry was an american car. It is made in the USA he said , what a pole smoker. He is going to vote for Hillary too , what a suprise.

I own two 3/4 Ton trucks that we use for towing. My truck pulls an excavator that weighs 8000 lbs , so its about 11,500 going down the road. The Av is mostly used for a Bobcat and an enclosed 4 place , both trucks have been flawless since new.

When my HD gets to 150,000 miles i will replace it with the new version of the same truck , and pass this one down to my brother. I will still own this Duramax 10 years from now , and i am sure it will still run just fine.

If i could get away with a 1/2 ton , i would be in an 08 GMC. The new GM trucks get the best MPG out of all the full size trucks.

BLLAAA BLLLLLAAAA BLLLAAAA JESSSSISSS H KRIST... Yet another Worthless reply... You're right both of your Chevy's and the other guys Dodge and the other guys Ford and .....BLAA BLAA are all better than everything else made... I am very glad you like what you drive good on ya... but yet again it has nothing to do at all with what I asked....how cool would it be if we all lived in a world where there was only ONE truck made then just think of the fun you would have convincing everyone that you had the coolest truck in town! Ya know on second thought maybe I will run right down to the Chevy dealer in the morning and trade in my brand spankin new Tundra for a Chevy and take the loss on it because Dano702 said it was the best thing made!!!

I asked for input from people who own the truck and have gotten a little feedback from people who know but way more BS feedback from people who insist they know more and have the best truck ever made... It is refreshing to see the BS and the "Mines better than yours" BS doesn't end with sleds but extends to trucks as well.... by the way I own a 4 wheeler, sled, guns and a lab so please feel free to tell me how much better yours are. No need to tell you the brand of any of these items as I am certain yours are far superior to what I have....

 

[cmantle1]

BLLAAA BLLLLLAAAA BLLLAAAA JESSSSISSS H KRIST... Yet another Worthless reply... You're right both of your Chevy's and the other guys Dodge and the other guys Ford and .....BLAA BLAA are all better than everything else made... I am very glad you like what you drive good on ya... but yet again it has nothing to do at all with what I asked....how cool would it be if we all lived in a world where there was only ONE truck made then just think of the fun you would have convincing everyone that you had the coolest truck in town! Ya know on second thought maybe I will run right down to the Chevy dealer in the morning and trade in my brand spankin new Tundra for a Chevy and take the loss on it because Dano702 said it was the best thing made!!!

I asked for input from people who own the truck and have gotten a little feedback from people who know but way more BS feedback from people who insist they know more and have the best truck ever made... It is refreshing to see the BS and the "Mines better than yours" BS doesn't end with sleds but extends to trucks as well.... by the way I own a 4 wheeler, sled, guns and a lab so please feel free to tell me how much better yours are. No need to tell you the brand of any of these items as I am certain yours are far superior to what I have....

I dont want to BS you cause ive only test driven a new tundra, but remeber, its a toyota. Those GM guys can say how many problem free miles they have had but nothing compares to yotas reliability. Yes they all have problems, but toyota are built tough. My buddies 84 4 runner has 260k miles. ONE head gasket.....something to be said for that

 

[OuraySledder]

I know I am OT, not trying to hyjack but you guys considering the "new" diesels, 6.7 CTD, 6.4 PS or the new D-max are going to be painfully surprised with the poor milage. The new emissions controls cause more fuel use, the milage gap is closing and diesel is more expensive, for now anyway.

Dano, If you give that D-max to your brother and buy a new one, you'll want to trade him back The Avy you'll be stuck with, especially if it has that pig 8.1 in it. No market for those at all.

Looks to me like a couple guys did respond specificlly about the Tundra. Poor milage, shifting issues....like most half tons, it is just a tall 4wd car, which is fine if you don't want/need a truck

Hope you enjoy it, I really do, new trucks are friggen spendy.

 

[Dano702]

BLLAAA BLLLLLAAAA BLLLAAAA JESSSSISSS H KRIST... Yet another Worthless reply... You're right both of your Chevy's and the other guys Dodge and the other guys Ford and .....BLAA BLAA are all better than everything else made... I am very glad you like what you drive good on ya... but yet again it has nothing to do at all with what I asked....how cool would it be if we all lived in a world where there was only ONE truck made then just think of the fun you would have convincing everyone that you had the coolest truck in town! Ya know on second thought maybe I will run right down to the Chevy dealer in the morning and trade in my brand spankin new Tundra for a Chevy and take the loss on it because Dano702 said it was the best thing made!!!

I asked for input from people who own the truck and have gotten a little feedback from people who know but way more BS feedback from people who insist they know more and have the best truck ever made... It is refreshing to see the BS and the "Mines better than yours" BS doesn't end with sleds but extends to trucks as well.... by the way I own a 4 wheeler, sled, guns and a lab so please feel free to tell me how much better yours are. No need to tell you the brand of any of these items as I am certain yours are far superior to what I have....

Yea , sorry about that .



You will get what you paid for , that is one thing i can tell you .


Good Luck.

 

[NewMTNsldr]

Kong, thanks for your insightful reply... informative and just the feedback I was actually looking for...thanks again

 

[Kong]

I know I am OT, not trying to hyjack but you guys considering the "new" diesels, 6.7 CTD, 6.4 PS or the new D-max are going to be painfully surprised with the poor milage. The new emissions controls cause more fuel use, the milage gap is closing and diesel is more expensive, for now anyway.

Dano, If you give that D-max to your brother and buy a new one, you'll want to trade him back The Avy you'll be stuck with, especially if it has that pig 8.1 in it. No market for those at all.

Looks to me like a couple guys did respond specificlly about the Tundra. Poor milage, shifting issues....like most half tons, it is just a tall 4wd car, which is fine if you don't want/need a truck

Hope you enjoy it, I really do, new trucks are friggen spendy.

Afraid you are pretty much right about the new diesels. I was lucky to get a new 07 5.9 with the 4 speed in November of 07. Will work just fine for me and about as tried and tested as I can get. Little bit slower, but I have friends with them and other than some trans issues (which I hope are better BUT I have major warantee) they have been pretty bullet proof. And great mileage. sure is nice to open the hood and see all the empty space.

 

[Dano702]

I know I am OT, not trying to hyjack but you guys considering the "new" diesels, 6.7 CTD, 6.4 PS or the new D-max are going to be painfully surprised with the poor milage. The new emissions controls cause more fuel use, the milage gap is closing and diesel is more expensive, for now anyway.

Dano, If you give that D-max to your brother and buy a new one, you'll want to trade him back The Avy you'll be stuck with, especially if it has that pig 8.1 in it. No market for those at all.

Looks to me like a couple guys did respond specificlly about the Tundra. Poor milage, shifting issues....like most half tons, it is just a tall 4wd car, which is fine if you don't want/need a truck

Hope you enjoy it, I really do, new trucks are friggen spendy.

The Av is the one i will NEVER sell , i will rebuild the Rat myself a few times at least. You could never buy the 2500 Av with anything but the 8100 , and that truck is my favorite hands down.

Every one hates them because the MPG , it pulls almost as good as the Dmax. It turns like a 1/2 ton , and it rides better than any pre GMT 900 i have ever rode in .

By far my favorite 3/4 ton truck to date , god damn i love my Big Block Av!

 

[Veedy]

If I had the dough, an '08 Tundra crew would be in my driveway. Until then my '96 dodge V10 beater will have to do.

 

[Jaynelson]

Jeezus what a trainwreck.....guy asks about Tundra driving experiences and gets 10,000 pixel pictures of people's ***gin GM's and a bunch of 1/2 assed comments from douchebags who've never even driven the truck in question.

Stuff I like about the Tundra:

- Tighter (ie more positive) steering than any other full-size truck
- Smoother, more sorted ride off-road than the domestics. My Sierra, for example, rides great on the highway, but hit the logging roads and it rattles, flexes, groans, bounces, etc, where the Toyotas don't. Tacos/Tundras just feel like they're screwed together better on rough roads. I think lots of truck owners never drive their shiat anywhere but the freeway, but out here in the boonies it's a big deal.
- Big power from the 5.7....haven't had a chance to tow with one yet, but they're fun around town!
- Auto LSD with VSC gives you great options for traction, safety, and burnouts
- I have more confidence (from personal experience) with Toyota's drivetrains and major componentry. They all have problems, but stuff like balljoints and brakes just last longer in Toyota's all other things equal. The "tight" feeling stays around longer....
- JBL sound system rocks for a factory system

Stuff I don't like:

- My Sierra has more comfortable seats....Tundra's are good, but the GM has 12 way power adjust on the passenger side too.
- Front bumper hangs too low, like all new trucks.
- GM fits a quad in the bed with the gate up....Tundra doesn't.

Mileage is about the same as my 5.3, which is neither good or bad really....there's no miracle solution if you want a 300hp+ truck.

Overall if I were buying a new 1/2 ton, it would be a Tundra....to make matters worse, there's a black lifted one with a double sled deck just down the road that taunts me everyday on the way to work