I
Insaneboltrounder/sjohns
Well-known member
You have your view .... I have mine.
Big iron shootout
- Thread starter Trukker
- Start date
I
Insaneboltrounder/sjohns
Well-known member
You have your view .... I have mine. Yours is wrong tho
P
pano-dude
Member
Ya know what, this is what pisses off the locals, fricking attitude. Not the fact that some of you flat landers come out to enjoy our back yards or park in the parking lots.
All it takes is 1 jacked up crew cab with a 4 place enclosed and red and white plates to park right in front of Sobey's door and wham! People's attitude towards sledders goes down.
Remember it's not the people locals hate, it's the ATTITUDE. Check it at the border.
Never been to the BIS and not sure if I ever will but I don't get it. Why would "O" Zone contact you after the letter he recieved in 06. It was clear the society doesn't want the event or Dave in Revelstoke. You collect all that cash for the grooming and don't do any thing to support this event, so it isn't an official event. Just some guy's out in the hills doing things they can do any time they want.
You can't stop it since it happens in a free country so how about getting behind it and helping.
If I have it wrong enlighten me.
How can you deny access to members? They have prepaid their trail fee.
The town,mayor and club all seem to forget who has supported them through out the past years.Most businesses would be crying for an event like this with the economy heading where it is.The ski hill and the attitude that goes with it is doing some serious changes to the way Revy is perceived .
I don't believe the club would ever want to stop people from enjoying the mountian. I do believe it was all the aftermath and fall out they took from the government that resulted in the letter they "tried to give to Dave" at the Calgary sled show. The directors on the board are concerned for peoples safety and the security of the future for the riding area. (If I was a board member I'd be worried about liability)
Pretty wide brush saying "club doesn't want Dave" (Rutt-King ) in Revy. All the people I know on the board welcome sledders and all people alike to Revy.
The money collected from grooming fees didn't cover the costs of the last event, and the $$$$$ lost having the dance that "some people" were saying all the tickets were sold when they knew tickets were still available.
There are discussions on going about RCMP and the extra cost being passed onto the club. More people=more problems=more police=more costs.
The powers to be "government" will be the ones who allow or disallow this event to happen. The club will only do their very best to make all club members and guest feel welcome as they always do.
"If I have it wrong enlighten me" I don't know that you have it wrong, you are only getting the "tip of the iceburg" facts of the whole story. Why don't you call the club and get there side of the story. They are accountable to their membership so you will only get the truth.
Last edited:
The GOVERNMENT can certainly put a stop to it (Ministry of Forests, etc. that oversees this segment) and it will be far beyond what you, me and the club can do about it. They can put a stop to snowmobiling in that area period and they've rattled that sabre previously.
Everyone needs to act responsibly so there are no repercussions on the small group that has to deal with the gov't in their negotiations, which is a constant and ongoing struggle, to keep these riding areas accessible.
I
Insaneboltrounder/sjohns
Well-known member
Im sure the mexicans hate the ppl that come and sit on thier beaches but too frikkn bad. If you want tourism you have to put up with the notsofun stuff too. By the way.. my plates are green and white , i dont park in front of anyones stores , i pack out what i bring in , i dont ride the closures .
Thanks, very informative. I guess there is more to this than what one reads on here.
I was under the impression he did receive that letter. He had it and I read it so my interpretation was the BIS was not welcome which I assumed included Dave. I just don't understand why the club doesn't take control here to prevent the after math and fallout. They organize other events. Did O Zone organize a dance?? If so, why would the club have to cover the cost's with grooming fees?
Last edited:
Does any body know if parking the trailers the night before the event will
be frowend upon or allowed at Boulder parking lot?
be frowend upon or allowed at Boulder parking lot?
haven't allowed it in the past for BIS or just coming out to sled for a weekend.
I
IRONMAN
Well-known member
I see this event as profitable, it just needs to be done rite. You have people (2-3000 mabey more) that want to see a event like this and would pay 30 bucks to get up the mountain. Give 10 to a charity and call it the BIS cancer fund raiser. The gov is not shuting down a fund raiser and MoF definalty will not shut it down. Makes us sleders look like the great people we all are. Puts a real positive spin on what seems to be looked at through dark glasses. The way it seems now if you go, your going to put a end to our sport. We need to put a positive spin on it so nobody can see it as a negative. The club, grooming society, and charity of choice would all see 30,000 each if 3000 peeps show up. Take out the costs they would still make a profit, wouldnt they? That dosent mention the full hotels, resturants, bars, pubs, so on. I know it would take some work but the opertunity is there to make it profitable.
Oh and did I mention we would raise some money for a charity????
Something great would happen if the town of Revy, the mayor & council, the club & possibly bcsf would get behind an event like the BIS. It could provide $$$ to the town, the club, etc. Why can't this event happen without all the political BS? Is it because of what other Snowest posters have said: "can't find a screwdriver in town, thanks for Lordco" and "can't keep a decent sled shop open." How is it that a place like Revy with all the snow, a natural place for snowmobiling can't find a way to make it sustainable & prosperous?
Sure rely on the new found skiers to provide the winter's economic stimulus. Enjoy the high real estate values. Good luck getting people to work in town when land values & rent exceed wages. Alot of problems follow such things. Without a major airport close by Revy will not enjoy the same level of prosperity of Whistler and others that have airports to bring skiers out. They'll come once but go to closer hills after that.
I think skiing & sledding can co-exist in Revy, just need people to back it. Same with the BIS.
PS to those going, I was in Boulder parking lot at 5am in 2006 with alot of others. May not be allowed to camp overnight but if you don't get there early the 1000 max limit will probably be reached by 830am. Have fun to all going, be responsible, pack out your trash & drink back in town!
Sure rely on the new found skiers to provide the winter's economic stimulus. Enjoy the high real estate values. Good luck getting people to work in town when land values & rent exceed wages. Alot of problems follow such things. Without a major airport close by Revy will not enjoy the same level of prosperity of Whistler and others that have airports to bring skiers out. They'll come once but go to closer hills after that.
I think skiing & sledding can co-exist in Revy, just need people to back it. Same with the BIS.
PS to those going, I was in Boulder parking lot at 5am in 2006 with alot of others. May not be allowed to camp overnight but if you don't get there early the 1000 max limit will probably be reached by 830am. Have fun to all going, be responsible, pack out your trash & drink back in town!
I did hear Dave aka: Ozone, aka: Rutt-King did finally get the letter they tried to give him at the Calgary show. That's what you would have read. But are you not leaving out the part that BIS was not a positive in it's current state, that changes needed to happen!!
It's not up to the club to police a event when the organizers won't contact the club to inform them of there intensions until after most of the plans are made. eg:the banner ad is placed on Snowest, the poster is printed, etc.
Ozone didn't organize or put any money towards the dance he asked the club to get a certian band. The club looking back now probably wouldn't have bought into the hype and horse $hit of doing the dance that they lost so much $$$ on.
Having a empty sled crate flown up the mountian by helicopter, I don't think will solve the garbage problem.
P
powder puff
Well-known member
Bobsledder the letter was handed to O-zone by the club president at the time. O-zone did not accept the registered letters from the SRS, the city of Revelstoke, the RCMP, the MoE, and the MoF. All we asked were that some conditions be met before this event was to happen again. Dave is always welcome in Revy and he is a club member this yr. again. The club and society have always said we are not against the event being held but conditions had to be met. We are the ones who have to deal with the aftermath.
It would not be the club or society stopping the event, gov. could step in at any time and shut us down. An event like this takes months of planning to be successful. What is happening now is it is being thrown into the faces of a bunch of volunteers who are really tired of playing the game with O-zone.
As for all the money everyone figures we rake in, as far as I know only the snow if FREE. We are not supported by the city or gov. to run our grooming programs, the club and society are run on trail pass fees and memberships.
Members of the club and guests are always welcome to enjoy any of the other riding areas here that we are continually fighting for with gov. to keep open for us all to enjoy on Mar. 15 if the 1000 rider limit is met.
If putting a limit of 1000 riders on the hill will prevent us taking the heat of 1/4 million $`s of damage done to reforested cut blocks again that is what we will have to do.
Last edited:
Iron Man: You hit the nail on the head exactly "It just needs to be done rite" I don't think anyone would disagee in supporting a charity, for sure not the club directors. They are only concerned in safety for all that would attend. One thing to remember is when you have the Revy mayor who is on the MOF not looking at the BIS through the same rose coloured glasses as the passionate sledders do.
I don't know a sledder who wouldn't support a worth while charity. What a great way to put a real positive spin on what has been a very challenging year with the loss of so many of our own to the avalanches.
Last edited:
C
Comp 670
Well-known member
I hope everybody sees the club is really in kind if a no win deal here.After the last BIS they had alot of problems cleaning up and then dealing with the aftermath for years with the forest service.
O-Zone cares only about himself,he proved that from the last event.The club is looking at the future and how hard is is going to be to even have a place to ride.Another event like 2006 and you can bet the outcome will be having the mtn CLOSED to sledders,just not worth it for one day of fun if you ask me.
This event is going to be watched closely by the goverment for ANYTHING they can use against sledders to close riding areas.
I hope it all works out for the club and everybody involved,I hate to see a area the club has put a incredible amount of work into hurt for years for one event to happen.
Flame on......
O-Zone cares only about himself,he proved that from the last event.The club is looking at the future and how hard is is going to be to even have a place to ride.Another event like 2006 and you can bet the outcome will be having the mtn CLOSED to sledders,just not worth it for one day of fun if you ask me.
This event is going to be watched closely by the goverment for ANYTHING they can use against sledders to close riding areas.
I hope it all works out for the club and everybody involved,I hate to see a area the club has put a incredible amount of work into hurt for years for one event to happen.
Flame on......
C
Comp 670
Well-known member
The two biggest probs I heard of from 2006 were ALOT of garbage left on the hill and $250,000.00 of damage to newly planted trees("cut blocks" as powder puff said) from sleds riding over them.People were told to stay on the trails until the top and that rule was not followed by everybody.It was a few making all sledders look bad.
It only takes a few idiots to give the goverment enough ammo to shut the mountain down to all sledders.For those that dont think it will happen,things are alot different these days and we could end up with no place to ride if we are not careful.
Last edited:
Wow, the other side of the story. Thanks for sharing.
It does sound like O Zone is not co operating. He should in my opinion, be willing to meet wth the club and meet the required conditions. Maybe his ego is to big or he doesn't want to give up any control to the club. Who knows?
It's to bad as an event like this run properly should be really good for the club. What happened in 06 that was so bad?
I will do my part and ride at home that week end.
How do we keep those idiots out of those cut blocks every other day of the year?
The potential is there everyday and it is logical that the increased volume of BIS only made it worse.
