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Zrbos or HOLZ A-Arms?? Inputs!

I'm torn on this sway bar issue.... On a sled that is already a monster to manuever wouldn't ditching the sway bar make it easier to pull over when the need arises? And it arises a lot for me...

I'm still looking for the combination of shocks/arms/spindles/sway bar that will make this a FUN sled rather than a total full body workout requiring an evening in the hot tub rather than at the bar.;)
 
HOLZ.

I sincerly appreciate your time you have taken to check and reply to this post. It truely shows your devotion to helping your customers understand your products and you customer service..so thank you first off...

I currently run your spindles, however they are not the newer style, so i cannot adjust the spacers to change ski stance...and i am also buying a set of your 41" wide arms for my wifes 06 700 RMK...she is set on running the OEM say bar and I know your products are excellent in every way..and i will always stand behind them...

The only info that through me off between your items vs zbroz items, was the ski stance..i have zero experience with other then OEM widths..therefore i started the thread to clarify basically..

I was unaware that your A-Arms were adjustable in widths from 40-42"...but i take complete responsibility in my decision, i should have called and talked to each company and had you explain..

I was set on either the 40", 41", and 43"...just didnt have much to go off of..

But again, I am sure others out there appreciate your reply..as well as those from other companies that take the time to get on here and help out..those are the ones that will get the vote 99% of the time..(i.e. Curt at FASTRAX, Rob at Better Boards, COBE ect ect..)

I will contact you about my wifes a-arms set that i am buying shortly...

Sean Armstrong

You are right, with our 'older' spindles, there are no options for ski stance. Our new spindles do not offer much over the previous design except for the adjustable stance.
We know that not everybody will like or buy our products, that's just the way it is, but I needed to get on here and represent our products to give a more biased opinion on the "Zbros vs nothing else" thread that we have going here:face-icon-small-hap
 
Seems like you have already made your decision, but my 2c neways...i have the same exact sled you have and have a 05 turbo 900 as well now

1. have ran the holz spindles by themselves, loved them, incredible from the original tank of a polaris spindle

2. have also ran the older holz arms with the spindles as a whole with no sway bar, made the 05 chassis roll like the 09 which i loved! thats the whole point of them right?

3. Now have the new spindles and new arms with the 09 sway bar...will probably never go back to anything else, you know that diving feeling you got with your old assembly, is gone with the 09 assembly.

anyways like i said just my 02cents since i have had the same sled and combination with all three holz options, and also just one more point on the board for holz, i cracked a mount on the original spindles that i had bought and they replaced the broken one for free. Thanks Holz, but just FYI this isnt to bash Z-Broz i have never ridden them or been around them. Just window shopped.
 
I'm torn on this sway bar issue.... On a sled that is already a monster to manuever wouldn't ditching the sway bar make it easier to pull over when the need arises? And it arises a lot for me...

I'm still looking for the combination of shocks/arms/spindles/sway bar that will make this a FUN sled rather than a total full body workout requiring an evening in the hot tub rather than at the bar.;)

It is our opinion that removing the sway bar does very little for better handling and more for very soft and unpredictable ride.
If you describe your sled as being "a monster to manuever" then I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that it's an '07 or older IQ.
There are options available to lighten the steering feel of your sled that will not require you to remove the sway bar only to find that removing doesn't really help much IMO
This is the part where I plug our spindles... :)
 
On public forums you always have to consider the source. A bad review of an excellent tried and true product from one of the leading aftermarket manufacturers on the planet should throw up the automatic RED FLAG!

Properly setup and applicated the HOLZ Racing Products 09-10 front suspension kit with either Evol R or Evol X shocks is the single best option for all around performance. No other product offers the combination of field tunability with correct geometry in a super strong yet light weight package for your Polaris IQ RAW or Ski Doo XP sled.

You can pull your 09-10 anti-sway bar in about five minutes to test and see if you like it with out. I've tried it a few full riding days without and did not enjoy the results. Thankfully its just as easy to reinstall!

Polaris-RMK-IQ-RAW-155-163-Peformance-Partner-Sled-front.jpg
 
On public forums you always have to consider the source. A bad review of an excellent tried and true product from one of the leading aftermarket manufacturers on the planet should throw up the automatic RED FLAG!

Properly setup and applicated the HOLZ Racing Products 09-10 front suspension kit with either Evol R or Evol X shocks is the single best option for all around performance. No other product offers the combination of field tunability with correct geometry in a super strong yet light weight package for your Polaris IQ RAW or Ski Doo XP sled.

You can pull your 09-10 anti-sway bar in about five minutes to test and see if you like it with out. I've tried it a few full riding days without and did not enjoy the results. Thankfully its just as easy to reinstall!

Polaris-RMK-IQ-RAW-155-163-Peformance-Partner-Sled-front.jpg

I will back Holz and Rob on this one 100%. I spent some time on Rob's sled last winter. That sled is an absolute dream to ride. I have never jumped on a random sled and been able to ride and control it better than my own. Rob's sled w/ the Holz rear and front fit perfect.
 
Holz

Seems like you have already made your decision, but my 2c neways...i have the same exact sled you have and have a 05 turbo 900 as well now

1. have ran the holz spindles by themselves, loved them, incredible from the original tank of a polaris spindle

2. have also ran the older holz arms with the spindles as a whole with no sway bar, made the 05 chassis roll like the 09 which i loved! thats the whole point of them right?

3. Now have the new spindles and new arms with the 09 sway bar...will probably never go back to anything else, you know that diving feeling you got with your old assembly, is gone with the 09 assembly.

anyways like i said just my 02cents since i have had the same sled and combination with all three holz options, and also just one more point on the board for holz, i cracked a mount on the original spindles that i had bought and they replaced the broken one for free. Thanks Holz, but just FYI this isnt to bash Z-Broz i have never ridden them or been around them. Just window shopped.



X2 I have no personal experience with Z- Broz, but have purchased lots of Holz products. The 41" arms with the 09 swaybar is the $hit, IMO. The 09 swaybar takes care of the body roll that is inherit in the older swaybar. I am sure the Z-Broz works as well as the Holz but without the swaybar Z-Broz must run a stiffer shock package to compensate for the body roll.
 
x3...I have holz 09 arms sitting here for mine..along with the 09 bar....I rode mine once without the bar(mine does have holz float-2's on it..) it makes the sled really squirlly both on and off trail unless you have the shocks super stiff(I normally run about 65 pds..I was up over 105 pds and still didnt like the handling)..keep the bar on the raw chassis...
 
On public forums you always have to consider the source. A bad review of an excellent tried and true product from one of the leading aftermarket manufacturers on the planet should throw up the automatic RED FLAG!
Properly setup and applicated the HOLZ Racing Products 09-10 front suspension kit with either Evol R or Evol X shocks is the single best option for all around performance. No other product offers the combination of field tunability with correct geometry in a super strong yet light weight package for your Polaris IQ RAW or Ski Doo XP sled.
You can pull your 09-10 anti-sway bar in about five minutes to test and see if you like it with out. I've tried it a few full riding days without and did not enjoy the results. Thankfully its just as easy to reinstall!

Polaris-RMK-IQ-RAW-155-163-Peformance-Partner-Sled-front.jpg

Rob, you forgot the Z-bro's suspension package for both the IQ and XP chassis sleds. It is an excellent package for either sled and has the benefit of being cheaper than the comparable Holz package (XO shocks) and offering more ground clearnace than the Holz arms. Z bro's is standard with the triple rate spring package and a ride gurantee, both things to take into account when making a large purchase. Holz traditionally has had very good products, but others in the industry are passing them up in terms of performance, fit/finish and customer satisfaction.

I find it difficult to accept your words at face value as you have a fianancial interest in the health of Holz (their sponsorship of you) and are actively marketing their products. I also find it concerning that in any post that doesn't support the products that are your sponsors you call into question the validity of the users gripes and then their competency to have installed the product properly.

On my comments about fit and finish being better on the Z-bro's stuff vs. Holz. It stands. The 09 IQ arms we installed on a buddies sled had a few things we didn't like.

1. Powdercoat in the balljoint area, had to be sanded off to get the lower ball joint in properly.
2. Upper Heim joint connection is a threaded portion rather than the lock nut/jam nut like stock. The problem came for us when we measured the engaged portion of the threaded arm and found it to be less than stock.
3. Coarse adjusment of camber with the threaded portion, we lost much of the adjustability with the Holz than what was available stock.
4. Powdercoat doesn't match Anything that is a factory red accessory or stock decal on the sled which is an 07 RMK. It has more orange in it than he would have liked.
5. Ground clearance, the Holz arms protrude lower than the Z-bro's units, Bryan is worried he is going to damage one of the lower arms on a rock (which is why he bought the Holz units)
 
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I believe both Holz and Zbroz make a good product. I went with the Zbro's setup because I was impressed with their Exit shocks and knew their arms were bullet proof as well. It's all about how things are setup, it can make or break the setup.
 
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