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You will never guess what I just bought with the Donation money!!!!!

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Well I didn't order a shirt so that must mean that I'm not a relevant party and don't deserve an explanation. That's fine. What I can't understand is that if the donation was in fact made, I would have expected you to provide proof of it and make Paul look like an idiot for doubting you. Most important, it would give you far more credibility than just a couple of guys saying that you are a great guy. If it were me, I would provide some type of tangible proof to put this thing to bed for good. Why are you refusing to do this?
 
Well I didn't order a shirt so that must mean that I'm not a relevant party and don't deserve an explanation. That's fine. What I can't understand is that if the donation was in fact made, I would have expected you to provide proof of it and make Paul look like an idiot for doubting you. Most important, it would give you far more credibility than just a couple of guys saying that you are a great guy. If it were me, I would provide some type of tangible proof to put this thing to bed for good. Why are you refusing to do this?

I would have said this myself but, can't be said any better than that!!

Tick, tock....................:face-icon-small-con
 
Really what he is saying is that its not most of our's business, and that if it really is your business then call the guy and he will provode you with the proof. Which makes sense. No need to prove anything to a bunch of strangers that have nothing to do with it.
 
Really what he is saying is that its not most of our's business, and that if it really is your business then call the guy and he will provode you with the proof. Which makes sense. No need to prove anything to a bunch of strangers that have nothing to do with it.

It is Paul's business and he has talked to the guy repeatedly and still no proof. I think that is why Paul called him out.
 
Really what he is saying is that its not most of our's business, and that if it really is your business then call the guy and he will provode you with the proof. Which makes sense. No need to prove anything to a bunch of strangers that have nothing to do with it.

I think when the legitimacy of a charitable fund is called into question, it's everybody who has, will or may donate in the future to something similar's business because a question left in someone's mind may cause them to reconsider whether they are willing to donate in the future. I have absolutely zero interest in this personally, but it makes me wonder about the things I have donated to in the past which makes me leary about my future dealings.

As one who stays away from the club, good ole boy's network in sledding I tend to not get involved in this stuff, but had I ever read the threads about this stuff & seen it was going to charity I would have donated.

My only point is that charitable orginazations have it tough enough, they don't need the doubt in folks' mind to keep them from giving when they likely would otherwise. Proof is a very simple thing & would set people's mind at ease about future dealings.
 
I think when the legitimacy of a charitable fund is called into question, it's everybody who has, will or may donate in the future to something similar's business because a question left in someone's mind may cause them to reconsider whether they are willing to donate in the future. I have absolutely zero interest in this personally, but it makes me wonder about the things I have donated to in the past which makes me leary about my future dealings.

As one who stays away from the club, good ole boy's network in sledding I tend to not get involved in this stuff, but had I ever read the threads about this stuff & seen it was going to charity I would have donated.

My only point is that charitable orginazations have it tough enough, they don't need the doubt in folks' mind to keep them from giving when they likely would otherwise. Proof is a very simple thing & would set people's mind at ease about future dealings.

Yeah, it would raise doubt about the legitness of the person/group doing a fundraiser for a charity. I would prove I paid the charity, not to rub it in the other guys face, but to clear up the whole charity fraud issue, but aparently this guy has his reasons, and maybe part of it is the way the other guy came across yesterday about it. Just got to be careful on the charity stuff.
 
Everybody loves ya Dukie! Most just don't know your overture to friendship is extreme abuse. lol

Wish I didn't have to re-iterate all this carp again, but Troy got my post pulled. Didn't think you'd care about the phone # being listed....since you do like to talk about yourself and you re-listed it here.

The rest of the story..again! sorry for the novel...

No Troy, I really don't need to be talked at again. You’re a great talker! Talk, talk talk...We talked enough. Action is what I'm after. My request has been the same since November and your response hasn't changed. Who's name is on the check or credit card or a check # is all I want so I can verify it. Sorry that’s rude of me to ask, but it was your actions that made me mis-trust you in the first place. Yeah, i was drunk the other night, but no, I don't get drunk too often. I do like to drink, but there is a difference. I was hammered! Oops. You don't know me, you met me once and chatted on the phone/email some. Seems your being a little mean now, and yes, so am I, but it's not the way I like things to go. Sometimes you have to get mad. Yes, i was mad the first time I had to call you to clean up your mess. No you didn't know that because I was trying to get your cooperation. Your excuse was lame and a few hours time would have seen all the shirts in the mail, so no, I no longer trusted what you said. Yes, I wondered about the donation, so I checked. Thanks for cooperating on the shirts and I really didn't mind the helping out, it was the way you just dropped us like a stinky load. If you would have followed up with me, I would have been happy enough to pull some of the load, but you didn't. I had to hunt you down and ask you to make good. I shouldn't have had to do that. Made me mad.

You disappeared in October and just now came back here. What are we to think of your character and integrity? I judge a person’s character by the way I see them. Your pedigree is impressive and props to you for all that, but it means not a lot to me in my dealings with you.

I did think the whole 100% donation thing sounded a little strange. I recommended you keep a percentage to cover your costs. You said no, but that you'd start keeping all the profits for the shirts after the snow-show run of shirts was sold. To be honest, that didn't sit well with me. Not sure why, but I let it go.

I typically don't make hollow adolescent beat down internet threats, but you did. Should I post the pm with the first childish threats between us? Post mine, I don't recall any other than my response to yours in the thread you had pulled. I did make a snyde comment regarding donations in Beer Guts post, and yes it was pointed at you, but very few would have gotten that bad joke. I was fed up, am fed up and continue to be fed up. It did get ya back on SW though and that’s when we had our little PM fight where you ended saying you’d make me eat that receipt. Still waiting to do that and I will if it’s dated OCT 2 or so. That’s what you posted on OCT 2 “wrote a check to children’s hospital for $1200 today”. Think it was in the snowshow pictures thread. I have it saved with the rest.

I could be wrong on some of the tidbits, but I think I have a handle on the big picture. I asked you nicely for some proof on paper in November for ride records purposes. You said you hadn't received the canceled check back yet. Mentioned it again a month later and asked just for the name the donation would be under. No response on that question. You do only answer the questions your interested in (see above for proof). Children’s has no record of a donation in any of the three biz names I have for you, your name, your last name, snowest forum ride, nor do they have any donations for the amounts between $1100 and $1300 dollars meeting any conceivable description for you between sep 1 2008 to Nov 30 2008. They could have fouled up and I could be as wrong as wrong, but i'm holding out for something more than you've offered thus far. Phone dials out to and you got my number, but I have a feeling the information I want won't be forthcoming.

I called Children's again today and went through the whole mess again. Nada. Comon, make it easy for us Troy. I’m not alone on this either and the people I’m talking about have money in this.

Yep, got your $166.41 and might be donating it to Children’s hospital, but I already told you that too. Might not though, time will tell. This isn’t personal for me Troy, just something that needs doing and I’m the lucky one. PROVE me wrong. Make me look like the drunken mean spirited idiot your painting me as. I’ll keep my analysis of you to myself now. All I want is…well I think that’s clear!





 
Everybody loves ya Dukie! Most just don't know your overture to friendship is extreme abuse. lol

Wish I didn't have to re-iterate all this carp again, but Troy got my post pulled. Didn't think you'd care about the phone # being listed....since you do like to talk about yourself and you re-listed it here.

The rest of the story..again! sorry for the novel...

No Troy, I really don't need to be talked at again. You’re a great talker! Talk, talk talk...We talked enough. Action is what I'm after. My request has been the same since November and your response hasn't changed. Who's name is on the check or credit card or a check # is all I want so I can verify it. Sorry that’s rude of me to ask, but it was your actions that made me mis-trust you in the first place. Yeah, i was drunk the other night, but no, I don't get drunk too often. I do like to drink, but there is a difference. I was hammered! Oops. You don't know me, you met me once and chatted on the phone/email some. Seems your being a little mean now, and yes, so am I, but it's not the way I like things to go. Sometimes you have to get mad. Yes, i was mad the first time I had to call you to clean up your mess. No you didn't know that because I was trying to get your cooperation. Your excuse was lame and a few hours time would have seen all the shirts in the mail, so no, I no longer trusted what you said. Yes, I wondered about the donation, so I checked. Thanks for cooperating on the shirts and I really didn't mind the helping out, it was the way you just dropped us like a stinky load. If you would have followed up with me, I would have been happy enough to pull some of the load, but you didn't. I had to hunt you down and ask you to make good. I shouldn't have had to do that. Made me mad.

You disappeared in October and just now came back here. What are we to think of your character and integrity? I judge a person’s character by the way I see them. Your pedigree is impressive and props to you for all that, but it means not a lot to me in my dealings with you.

I did think the whole 100% donation thing sounded a little strange. I recommended you keep a percentage to cover your costs. You said no, but that you'd start keeping all the profits for the shirts after the snow-show run of shirts was sold. To be honest, that didn't sit well with me. Not sure why, but I let it go.

I typically don't make hollow adolescent beat down internet threats, but you did. Should I post the pm with the first childish threats between us? Post mine, I don't recall any other than my response to yours in the thread you had pulled. I did make a snyde comment regarding donations in Beer Guts post, and yes it was pointed at you, but very few would have gotten that bad joke. I was fed up, am fed up and continue to be fed up. It did get ya back on SW though and that’s when we had our little PM fight where you ended saying you’d make me eat that receipt. Still waiting to do that and I will if it’s dated OCT 2 or so. That’s what you posted on OCT 2 “wrote a check to children’s hospital for $1200 today”. Think it was in the snowshow pictures thread. I have it saved with the rest.

I could be wrong on some of the tidbits, but I think I have a handle on the big picture. I asked you nicely for some proof on paper in November for ride records purposes. You said you hadn't received the canceled check back yet. Mentioned it again a month later and asked just for the name the donation would be under. No response on that question. You do only answer the questions your interested in (see above for proof). Children’s has no record of a donation in any of the three biz names I have for you, your name, your last name, snowest forum ride, nor do they have any donations for the amounts between $1100 and $1300 dollars meeting any conceivable description for you between sep 1 2008 to Nov 30 2008. They could have fouled up and I could be as wrong as wrong, but i'm holding out for something more than you've offered thus far. Phone dials out to and you got my number, but I have a feeling the information I want won't be forthcoming.

I called Children's again today and went through the whole mess again. Nada. Comon, make it easy for us Troy. I’m not alone on this either and the people I’m talking about have money in this.

Yep, got your $166.41 and might be donating it to Children’s hospital, but I already told you that too. Might not though, time will tell. This isn’t personal for me Troy, just something that needs doing and I’m the lucky one. PROVE me wrong. Make me look like the drunken mean spirited idiot your painting me as. I’ll keep my analysis of you to myself now. All I want is…well I think that’s clear!





Call me. you keyboard jockey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Not one call today not one. Man up and call me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Everybody loves ya Dukie! Most just don't know your overture to friendship is extreme abuse. lol

Wish I didn't have to re-iterate all this carp again, but Troy got my post pulled. Didn't think you'd care about the phone # being listed....since you do like to talk about yourself and you re-listed it here.

The rest of the story..again! sorry for the novel...

No Troy, I really don't need to be talked at again. You’re a great talker! Talk, talk talk...We talked enough. Action is what I'm after. My request has been the same since November and your response hasn't changed. Who's name is on the check or credit card or a check # is all I want so I can verify it. Sorry that’s rude of me to ask, but it was your actions that made me mis-trust you in the first place. Yeah, i was drunk the other night, but no, I don't get drunk too often. I do like to drink, but there is a difference. I was hammered! Oops. You don't know me, you met me once and chatted on the phone/email some. Seems your being a little mean now, and yes, so am I, but it's not the way I like things to go. Sometimes you have to get mad. Yes, i was mad the first time I had to call you to clean up your mess. No you didn't know that because I was trying to get your cooperation. Your excuse was lame and a few hours time would have seen all the shirts in the mail, so no, I no longer trusted what you said. Yes, I wondered about the donation, so I checked. Thanks for cooperating on the shirts and I really didn't mind the helping out, it was the way you just dropped us like a stinky load. If you would have followed up with me, I would have been happy enough to pull some of the load, but you didn't. I had to hunt you down and ask you to make good. I shouldn't have had to do that. Made me mad.

You disappeared in October and just now came back here. What are we to think of your character and integrity? I judge a person’s character by the way I see them. Your pedigree is impressive and props to you for all that, but it means not a lot to me in my dealings with you.

I did think the whole 100% donation thing sounded a little strange. I recommended you keep a percentage to cover your costs. You said no, but that you'd start keeping all the profits for the shirts after the snow-show run of shirts was sold. To be honest, that didn't sit well with me. Not sure why, but I let it go.

I typically don't make hollow adolescent beat down internet threats, but you did. Should I post the pm with the first childish threats between us? Post mine, I don't recall any other than my response to yours in the thread you had pulled. I did make a snyde comment regarding donations in Beer Guts post, and yes it was pointed at you, but very few would have gotten that bad joke. I was fed up, am fed up and continue to be fed up. It did get ya back on SW though and that’s when we had our little PM fight where you ended saying you’d make me eat that receipt. Still waiting to do that and I will if it’s dated OCT 2 or so. That’s what you posted on OCT 2 “wrote a check to children’s hospital for $1200 today”. Think it was in the snowshow pictures thread. I have it saved with the rest.

I could be wrong on some of the tidbits, but I think I have a handle on the big picture. I asked you nicely for some proof on paper in November for ride records purposes. You said you hadn't received the canceled check back yet. Mentioned it again a month later and asked just for the name the donation would be under. No response on that question. You do only answer the questions your interested in (see above for proof). Children’s has no record of a donation in any of the three biz names I have for you, your name, your last name, snowest forum ride, nor do they have any donations for the amounts between $1100 and $1300 dollars meeting any conceivable description for you between sep 1 2008 to Nov 30 2008. They could have fouled up and I could be as wrong as wrong, but i'm holding out for something more than you've offered thus far. Phone dials out to and you got my number, but I have a feeling the information I want won't be forthcoming.

I called Children's again today and went through the whole mess again. Nada. Comon, make it easy for us Troy. I’m not alone on this either and the people I’m talking about have money in this.

Yep, got your $166.41 and might be donating it to Children’s hospital, but I already told you that too. Might not though, time will tell. This isn’t personal for me Troy, just something that needs doing and I’m the lucky one. PROVE me wrong. Make me look like the drunken mean spirited idiot your painting me as. I’ll keep my analysis of you to myself now. All I want is…well I think that’s clear!





I have all the proof you need, you only have to call and ask for it.

You are the one that has to prove your accusations!!!!

Enough internet brave man crap!!!


you know the drill...................CALL ME
 
To put and end to it all I called up the Childrens Hospital and got the Un-deniable truth !!! For your viewing pleasure.........

reciu5.jpg
 
Everybody loves ya Dukie! Most just don't know your overture to friendship is extreme abuse. lol

Wish I didn't have to re-iterate all this carp again, but Troy got my post pulled. Didn't think you'd care about the phone # being listed....since you do like to talk about yourself and you re-listed it here.

The rest of the story..again! sorry for the novel...

No Troy, I really don't need to be talked at again. You’re a great talker! Talk, talk talk...We talked enough. Action is what I'm after. My request has been the same since November and your response hasn't changed. Who's name is on the check or credit card or a check # is all I want so I can verify it. Sorry that’s rude of me to ask, but it was your actions that made me mis-trust you in the first place. Yeah, i was drunk the other night, but no, I don't get drunk too often. I do like to drink, but there is a difference. I was hammered! Oops. You don't know me, you met me once and chatted on the phone/email some. Seems your being a little mean now, and yes, so am I, but it's not the way I like things to go. Sometimes you have to get mad. Yes, i was mad the first time I had to call you to clean up your mess. No you didn't know that because I was trying to get your cooperation. Your excuse was lame and a few hours time would have seen all the shirts in the mail, so no, I no longer trusted what you said. Yes, I wondered about the donation, so I checked. Thanks for cooperating on the shirts and I really didn't mind the helping out, it was the way you just dropped us like a stinky load. If you would have followed up with me, I would have been happy enough to pull some of the load, but you didn't. I had to hunt you down and ask you to make good. I shouldn't have had to do that. Made me mad.

You disappeared in October and just now came back here. What are we to think of your character and integrity? I judge a person’s character by the way I see them. Your pedigree is impressive and props to you for all that, but it means not a lot to me in my dealings with you.

I did think the whole 100% donation thing sounded a little strange. I recommended you keep a percentage to cover your costs. You said no, but that you'd start keeping all the profits for the shirts after the snow-show run of shirts was sold. To be honest, that didn't sit well with me. Not sure why, but I let it go.

I typically don't make hollow adolescent beat down internet threats, but you did. Should I post the pm with the first childish threats between us? Post mine, I don't recall any other than my response to yours in the thread you had pulled. I did make a snyde comment regarding donations in Beer Guts post, and yes it was pointed at you, but very few would have gotten that bad joke. I was fed up, am fed up and continue to be fed up. It did get ya back on SW though and that’s when we had our little PM fight where you ended saying you’d make me eat that receipt. Still waiting to do that and I will if it’s dated OCT 2 or so. That’s what you posted on OCT 2 “wrote a check to children’s hospital for $1200 today”. Think it was in the snowshow pictures thread. I have it saved with the rest.

I could be wrong on some of the tidbits, but I think I have a handle on the big picture. I asked you nicely for some proof on paper in November for ride records purposes. You said you hadn't received the canceled check back yet. Mentioned it again a month later and asked just for the name the donation would be under. No response on that question. You do only answer the questions your interested in (see above for proof). Children’s has no record of a donation in any of the three biz names I have for you, your name, your last name, snowest forum ride, nor do they have any donations for the amounts between $1100 and $1300 dollars meeting any conceivable description for you between sep 1 2008 to Nov 30 2008. They could have fouled up and I could be as wrong as wrong, but i'm holding out for something more than you've offered thus far. Phone dials out to and you got my number, but I have a feeling the information I want won't be forthcoming.

I called Children's again today and went through the whole mess again. Nada. Comon, make it easy for us Troy. I’m not alone on this either and the people I’m talking about have money in this.

Yep, got your $166.41 and might be donating it to Children’s hospital, but I already told you that too. Might not though, time will tell. This isn’t personal for me Troy, just something that needs doing and I’m the lucky one. PROVE me wrong. Make me look like the drunken mean spirited idiot your painting me as. I’ll keep my analysis of you to myself now. All I want is…well I think that’s clear!


Hey BUSHY,
I like how you think and I would love to hang out with some
more drunks! lol!! Wanna ride sometime? :beer;:beer;:beer; for the drunks!!!!!
Alrevdup, just give him some proof, this is sh!t my five year olds
would pull. I wasn't involved either and from the sounds of it, I
probably never will!!!!! Good luck fellas
 
Read it again and comprehend this time. The talk is done, I have nothing to say to you and I'm not interested in your talk talk talk act. You have only one thing I'm interested in, or don't have it....the proof, and that you can email me or pm. Next excuse.

If you were giving people tangible verifiable proof that doesn't rely on your running mouth, then i'd have heard about it already.

Sorry T&A1000, I'll drink to that with ya.
 
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Read it again and comprehend this time. The talk is done, I have nothing to say to you and I'm not interested in your talk talk talk act. You have only one thing I'm interested in, or don't have it....the proof, and that you can email me or pm. Next excuse.

If you were giving people tangible verifiable proof that doesn't rely on your running mouth, then i'd have heard about it already.

Sorry T&A1000, I'll drink to that with ya.
If you wont call then prove your accusations!!

I'm done with this snake pit!
 
I am sorry, I don't know what the truth is in this matter. I know that I have a shirt that was wonderfully designed, which took ALOT of time, by Troy. I also know, on the other hand, if I had the GOD DAM receipt I would post it.

Either way, that post was fricking HILLARIOUS Johnny!!!!!!!!!!


To put and end to it all I called up the Childrens Hospital and got the Un-deniable truth !!! For your viewing pleasure.........

reciu5.jpg
 
Popcorn sounds good and it goes good with beer for us drunks!!!!!!
Bushy, you ever feel like you're having a war of wits with someone that's unarmed?? GREEN FOR BUSHY! It was getting old, now I can't quit lmfao!!
 
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