yamaha can **** off

[whittaker727]

... or a clutch going bad because you are towing 50k lbs?

I don't know if you mean to, but you sound like the dealer that won't do the warranty work because all customers are stupid. Like I said, I was with him and this happened on the break in ride for the turbo (no more than 5lbs of boost) and when we got back home is when it was noticed. Not everyone is a crook or looking for something for free. JMO

 

[euge]

Fender with a dent= sign of impact/abuse
Clutch is a wear item good for around 40-60000 miles
I can even see them not covering the ball joints as they are a wear item
but when you have a frame, that is bent w/ no sign of impact or abuse w/ little time on it I would expect it to be covered
Ford Dodge Yugo or Yamaha
I do not see the similarity between a dented Fender or burned out clutch and a bent subframe..... Just my opinion....yo have a right to yours

 

[TurboMatt]

Fender with a dent= sign of impact/abuse
Clutch is a wear item good for around 40-60000 miles
I can even see them not covering the ball joints as they are a wear item
but when you have a frame, that is bent w/ no sign of impact or abuse w/ little time on it I would expect it to be covered
Ford Dodge Yugo or Yamaha
I do not see the similarity between a dented Fender or burned out clutch and a bent subframe..... Just my opinion....yo have a right to yours

I have to agree.
IMO, if anything should be bending here it should be a-arms. the frame should be the last thing to bend.

 

[TurboMatt]

This like getting Ford to warranty a dent in a fender cause the guy claimed
he didn't hit anything... so it's Fords fault that the fender wasn't thick enough?

Maybe they are week, some are bending, some are not but as someone stated, they don't bend on their own. I clipped a rock or a stump with
mine the other day, hard enough to eject me and no bending.

You need to think before you post from now on.

No one here is claiming they are bending on there own. We are claiming that they are bending under "normal use" conditions. We are claiming there was no impact. IE. trail riding bumps, normal trail conditions. Hell for all I know they could be bending from going over normal trail bridges(carbide catching). It's that's the case they is still something wrong, 'cause I don't know about your's but mine came with carbides stock, so it should strong enough to withstand this kind of abuse. I should be able to pound this this through 1"-2" whoops on the trail. They sold me this sled as a "rough trail sled". So I want to be able to use it on a rough trail without worry.

 

[yammerhammer]

You need to think before YOU post because you obviously misunderstood what I'm saying. Maybe this will do it... prove to anyone that an impact didn't bend it. Now do a search, It's in that black banner in the middle of your screen, (I know you're a new'b) for my user name and you'll find that I have went through this with Yamaha on another issue. Breakage, no impact and I had a figtht on my hands. I agree the "A" arms should bend before the frame (remember the REV?). If the "A" arm was bent, should they warranty it?

I'm done with this. Gawd dang!

Cheers

 

[TurboMatt]

You need to think before YOU post because you obviously misunderstood what I'm saying. Maybe this will do it... prove to anyone that an impact didn't bend it. Now do a search, It's in that black banner in the middle of your screen, (I know you're a new'b) for my user name and you'll find that I have went through this with Yamaha on another issue. Breakage, no impact and I had a figtht on my hands. I agree the "A" arms should bend before the frame (remember the REV?). If the "A" arm was bent, should they warranty it?

I'm done with this. Gawd dang!

Cheers

I am not trying to start something here. I'm just not that guy. but you did say:

This like getting Ford to warranty a dent in a fender cause the guy claimed
he didn't hit anything... so it's Fords fault that the fender wasn't thick enough?

And that is nothing like the subframe issue we are having.
Also, I did prove to someone that I hit nothing. I obviously proved it to dealer if they are covering it. Right? That's really the only one I have to prove it to I guess. I don't understand why everyone thinks someone is trying to screw the next. I am being honest about this whole deal. What happened to "the customers always right". It seems now its turn into: "guilty till proven innocent."
And to call "newb" on me. comeon. I can garrentee that i've been around web forums as long as you, just not this one. That's silly.
I did read about your shocks breaking. If this would have happened to me, I can garrantee you I would have expected Yamaha to cover it.

 

[yammerhammer]

Nor am I but what I'm saying is thats it's tough to prove you didn't hit anything with it, thats all.


Yamaha didn't cover mine the second time... the dealer did.



And I said I was done. lol

 

[rotax]

Yep, this is the same issue Doo had w/ "nuns"...

Of all manuf, I can't believe it'd be Yamaha to play this same game.

Weaken the proper point in the system find a cheaper bending/breaking point, the a-arm.

I guess I may be drilling holes in the Nytro arms too, after looking at the front end on the Nytro, I don't see it being any easier/quicker/cheaper to fix than a Rev.

If I bend a stock arm, I can put on some aftermarkets instead.

 

[Stlhead]

When I first bent mine I thought that it would be better to weaken the A arms and save the frame. But after riding the sled with a bent frame for a long time then changing the frame only I rethought that position. If you tater the A arms spindle and supporting hardware you will also tater the shock and the control arms, trust me it is a lot tougher to get the sled back to the truck with the later scenario. I have been down that trail on one ski, give me a bent subframe that just slides one ski back a few inches. It is cheaper to just replace the subframe than it would be to replace all of the other gear. And as for comparing the subframe to a nun, if the nun could be changed in an hour and a half by one guy and under $400.00 in parts then mabee.

 

[skidoomutt]

well to share what happened today. I got a call back from the product specialist manager, and for the forum appropriate word he was a a**hole he hung up on me two times. I called him back twice, he then turned the story to telling me the just talked to the dealership that is replacing my subframe, Yamaha told him they were not going to cover any of it end of story the dealer said that was fine. I got off the phone called the same dealer Yamaha had just got off the phone with, and get this the dealer hadnt talked to yamaha in two days so they made that story up now how proffessional does that sound, I dont know about you guys but I dont like getting lied to. Matthew the product specialist told me that the would have implimented goodwill if I had just said I hit something, so I said for you guys to cover this part I would have had to lie, and not tell you what really happened again doesnt make much sense to me. And as for Yammahammer posts you have your opinion about stuff, and you have no idea what happened in this instace if your nytro is holding up then good for you, If mine isnt holding up to normale trail riding after forty miles then thats a problem. To go back to your analogies thats like buying a new truck and on the drive home the front axle falls out of, so what your saying is you would be fine with that.
Matthew the product specialist told me that the nytro wasnt desighned to take any kind of an impact, so thats if its bent its our falt, correct me if I am wrong but isnt this a mountain sled and on top of that isnt this their racing platform. They told me today that even if I sent my old subframe into them for inspection that due to the reps write ups that they would not even inspect it for flaws. So basicley even if they are wrong they wont inspect it and admit it. Someone explain to me how a rep that hasnt even seen it in person can decide what happeneds. If there is enough guys that have this problem pm me I would like to discuss some legal routs the local dealer told me to pursue. It should never come to this exspecialy on a relativley inexpensive fix, to Yamaha.

 

[rkymtnman]

I think most of you missed YH's point entirely.

It is VERY difficult to prove you didn't hit anything when something is broke. He had a very similiar problem with his shocks - lost plenty of riding time because of it - Yammie reps did look at it - they warrantied the FIRST time after a good 2 week "discussion" - the second time it happened, the dealer stepped up and took care of it.

Dealer here is key, IMO. And FWIW, Yamaha watches these forums - that is a fact as on the same ride I center punched a big azz rock - they initially declined the claim since they made the assumption it was my sled that had the busted shocks not YH's.

Sucks to be in your position for sure but I would look hard to my dealer to step up for me and go to battle on my behalf since presumably, they are the ones who took the sled apart and "inspected" it for damage in the first place. Good luck - I hope this works out better than it sounds currently.

 

[Turk]

At 1000 miles my right ski was 3" further ahead then my left ski(08 fx shorty). At 1400 miles they are dead nutz even. Traded er off as she sits on a 09 xtx!I noticed the diff cus i have an aluminum enclosed & see how the skiis line up with the front of the enclosure. 1st time i saw it i go WTF???? Corrected itself 400 miles later.
true story!!!

 

[Viper5]

Is it always the right hand side pushed back? My brothers was bent after he hit a tree rh side pulled it straight rode it the rest of the year.

 

[rednytro]

yep yamaha does watch these forums . when i was trying to get a track out of them and put it on here that the mav is a pos they must have been watching . a week after i took my track into have it looked at i got a call back from yamaha canada saying that they found out my sled is turbo ed and is now red flaged . what a joke ! thats why my full name isnt on my profile any more , guess i learned that lesson the hard way

 

[sledskiing]

IMO Dealer doesn't have much say in what is warrantied. If they warranty something themselves it is most likely a result of the dealers work. If the dealer doesn't do an install correctly they should warranty it. The subframe was not installed by a dealer and the dealer has no say in if yamaha will warranty it. Some will sugar coat it to make you feel all warm and nice but the yamaha district rep makes the call.

My 2 cents I could be wrong. It's not the dealer it's Yamaha. Your dealer may be stupid but it's out of their hands.

Ohh BTW mine is bent. Don't really know if i hit anything to cause it. It's only noticeable on the trails so i just stay off them.

 

[whittaker727]

Basicly, Skidoomutt was told don't go on the trails, don't go off the trials because these sleds weren't engineered to be ridden. Not quite that bad, but to be told the sled is not to have any impact or be jumped is rediculous. Maybe it's not designed to be jumped like Quinlin, Burandt, Blaze or any of the big guys do, but who gets off the trail without lifting the ski's either on purpose or by accident?

 

[spring snow hero]

been there done that

I had a brand new polaris that thehood would not stay in the belly pan. you nail it and the hood poped out....like clockwork. every dealer from spokane to oregon tried to adjust the hood, the pipe.....you name it. I took a 5 minute video of what was happening and measured every single aspect of the hood available.....they laughed at me and sent me another set of hood straps.

to say I was pizzed would be an understatement. I sold it and all my other polaris' and have never owned one since.....oddly enough, almost two years after the sled was sold I recieves a phone call from polaris offering to warranty my hood...I told them I had bought a new hood and sold the sled, but would be more than happy if they would send me the hood as I lost $600 on a new one, they declined.

that was 1997 and I have had 8 sleds since, not one of which was a poo nor will I ride one if they give it to me.....well maybe.

so I say argue your case and stand your ground, choose your principals and go with it. in my case I was 21 and planned on buying a new poo every year till something would beat em' in the end I did.

I would call them every hour till they changed their number. ask everyone you talk to for their name and their supervisors name.....take notes and be persistent.

 

[Ultralord]

Wow this makes me feal real good I take out my new Nytro in the morning I would beat this like a dead horse remember the squeaky wheel gets the grease!!!!!!! I would sue them in small claims court. Then sue the district rep in small claims court and then the dealer who sold this to you I would report it to the ntsb,and your state Attorney General and then to the BBB. But I will say I am very surprised Every Yamaha I have ever had Has mowed down stumps, trees, rocks and has done many cartwheels down hills and the most I ever bent was a tie rod. Good luck man

 

[skidoomutt]

yup that is why I think this situation is so strange I have heard nothing but how durable yamahas are , even to the point that they are over built henc the weight. Dont get me wrong I like my sled no complaints about power performance , just one small thing that has soured my opinion about them, I wouldnt even be so mad if they had at least aggreed to look at the thing and get all the dealers that have seen my sled on one call and sort it out, but they arnt even willing to inspect it for a warranty claim, its just no and thats it, end of story.

 

[noob]

guess I better go check my subframe. skiidoomutt, I do hear what you are saying. If I go to a dealer and they dont' make any effort whatsoever, It dont' make me happy. at least try and see if there are some ways to run it through would make me satisfied. believe this, where there is a will, there is a way. If a dealer wanted to, and someone's already said they had theirs warrantied, they will and can do it for you. I would love an alternative, but the 1800 bones that is being offered on the aftermarket chormolly option is a little out of the price range. Nothing against' the producer of said product, if it was half that I would prob make the switch.