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We did that once, actually put lots of effort into it, but now...well...we've devolved into unintelligent individuals and screwed up all of our previous hard work.

But yeah, got a story? LOL.
 
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the feed grounds in the grovont outside of jackson is getting overun with wolves in the winter and is wipeing out all the elk. used to be lots of elk around the area now they only pass through and get run down and killed by the wolves. the g&f see atleast 2 to 3 fresh kills every morning on there patrol in the area. one wolf pack had 15 pups thats too many.. not to mention the other two packs in the area. bye bye elk.
 
I am an advocate of releasing a breeding pair of 6 million dollar wolves in New York's Central Park. Any argument the Greenies used to advocate the wolves reintroduction to Wyoming/ Idaho / Montana should be used to put a pair of breeders into their backyard! Why is there a concern for their park that we don't share as a concern for our state!
 
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ya round up some of the wolves and take them to central park and set them loose. it would take care of the homeless problem and let them see just how good the wolves are for things.
 
umm..no offense, buti'm pretty sure that the elk population in the jackson area is well over the game and fish target numbers. i also know plenty of people that hunt here in the area, and lets just say that its not exactly all that difficult to get an elk..if you can't find one you need to work on your hunting skills, not blame wolves. elk population numbers have actually been so high that game and fish issues tags for hunting on the national elk refuge and in areas of grand teton national park...doesn't sound like a shortage of hunting opportunities for me. call me a tree hugger if you wish, i don't give a damn, but the fact of the matter is that elk, deer, wolves, and grizzly bears have all lived together harmoniously in the greater yellowstone ecosystem for thousands of years in a nice balancing act. wolves have been hunting in the area way longer than humans have, and the elk and deer have managed to survive just fine through it all, and 100 years ago before the eradiction happened there were wayyyy more wolves...and also..believe it or not, there were way more elk and deer too. it was humans that f$$%ed it all up in the first place and tipped the balance. so I'll trust the guys at game and fish to make the right decisions...these are people that rely on science to justify actions, decisions, and population numbers. these are people with real knowledge of the issues, so i trust their opinion a whole lot more than some of the redneck arm chair jockeys on this site. i'll let those guys make the hard decisions. fwiw, i do agree that wolves need to have their population numbers managed just like elk, deer, pronghorn, etc. but there is a huge differance between population control and eradication. i think having a seasonal wolf hunt is a good idea, and i think the quotas for differant areas are a fine way to do it. I also think problem wolves and packs that prey on livestock need to be dealt with. but having open season on wolves all year long sounds a bit ridiculous to me. there are only like 200 something wolves in wyoming anyway..we're not talking populations in the thousands here. so why don't you guys just let game and fish do their job...
 
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This should get interesting with this post ctowles left.

I don't live in Wyoming but I am sure they have the same problem Idaho does too many wolves that are killing just for the hell of it!!!

You may and I mean may be over populated right now but give it time just like the Selway and Bitteroot zones here in Idaho and you will scratch your head and say where are all the elk and moose????
 
the wolves that are in the area are not the same kind of wolf that was in wy to start the ones now are way bigger. living around them sucks to. having a down animal at dark is not fun the wolves and grizz around you trying to get your kill. tell me there not hurting anything after you get stoked by one. hell i dont even walk at night hunting anymore because of walking back in the dark. you should talk to 2 someone from canada and ask them about that the wolf that is in wy. they kill them on sight up there.
 
Kind of like Kansas where your supposed to have a license to kill a rattle snake and a limit of 6 per day. I'd like to turn about 50 loose in the game wardens yard and see how many he kills!!
 
looks like ol ctowles really likes his wolves. and knows more then the game warden i talked to. the game warden wanted the wolves gone he was sick to see what they do. and the wolves here are a little bigger then the old ones. they were brought down from canada. but to each his own. i hunt the grovont with guys in there late 50s who have hunted the area all their life. think they know how to hunt the elk. guess to each his own on the wolf idea. but i say shoot them. :D
 
They are getting bad here in Minnesota too. I have heard of several wolf attacks on dogs in the last week. A few were taken right out of their yards when people were outside. Scary! :eek:
 
I saw 3 of them together in the snowies last year. They are on the move. :mad:
 
umm..no offense, buti'm pretty sure that the elk population in the jackson area is well over the game and fish target numbers. i also know plenty of people that hunt here in the area, and lets just say that its not exactly all that difficult to get an elk..if you can't find one you need to work on your hunting skills, not blame wolves. elk population numbers have actually been so high that game and fish issues tags for hunting on the national elk refuge and in areas of grand teton national park...doesn't sound like a shortage of hunting opportunities for me. call me a tree hugger if you wish, i don't give a damn, but the fact of the matter is that elk, deer, wolves, and grizzly bears have all lived together harmoniously in the greater yellowstone ecosystem for thousands of years in a nice balancing act. wolves have been hunting in the area way longer than humans have, and the elk and deer have managed to survive just fine through it all, and 100 years ago before the eradiction happened there were wayyyy more wolves...and also..believe it or not, there were way more elk and deer too. it was humans that f$$%ed it all up in the first place and tipped the balance. so I'll trust the guys at game and fish to make the right decisions...these are people that rely on science to justify actions, decisions, and population numbers. these are people with real knowledge of the issues, so i trust their opinion a whole lot more than some of the redneck arm chair jockeys on this site. i'll let those guys make the hard decisions. fwiw, i do agree that wolves need to have their population numbers managed just like elk, deer, pronghorn, etc. but there is a huge differance between population control and eradication. i think having a seasonal wolf hunt is a good idea, and i think the quotas for differant areas are a fine way to do it. I also think problem wolves and packs that prey on livestock need to be dealt with. but having open season on wolves all year long sounds a bit ridiculous to me. there are only like 200 something wolves in wyoming anyway..we're not talking populations in the thousands here. so why don't you guys just let game and fish do their job...




Hey TREEHUGGER/WOLF LOVER, This is SNOWEST numbnuts, not save the wolves.com. So go somewhere else and preach about saving wolves, and let us get on with killing them. OH, and you can take that 200# and shove it right up your A$$. Theres that many in the wind river range alone......
 
I've spotted a few in the Snowies to. One had a radio collar on and was just down the road from Ryan Park next to a hill kids sled on all the time.
 
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umm..no offense, buti'm pretty sure that the elk population in the jackson area is well over the game and fish target numbers. i also know plenty of people that hunt here in the area, and lets just say that its not exactly all that difficult to get an elk..if you can't find one you need to work on your hunting skills, not blame wolves. elk population numbers have actually been so high that game and fish issues tags for hunting on the national elk refuge and in areas of grand teton national park...doesn't sound like a shortage of hunting opportunities for me. call me a tree hugger if you wish, i don't give a damn, but the fact of the matter is that elk, deer, wolves, and grizzly bears have all lived together harmoniously in the greater yellowstone ecosystem for thousands of years in a nice balancing act. wolves have been hunting in the area way longer than humans have, and the elk and deer have managed to survive just fine through it all, and 100 years ago before the eradiction happened there were wayyyy more wolves...and also..believe it or not, there were way more elk and deer too. it was humans that f$$%ed it all up in the first place and tipped the balance. so I'll trust the guys at game and fish to make the right decisions...these are people that rely on science to justify actions, decisions, and population numbers. these are people with real knowledge of the issues, so i trust their opinion a whole lot more than some of the redneck arm chair jockeys on this site. i'll let those guys make the hard decisions. fwiw, i do agree that wolves need to have their population numbers managed just like elk, deer, pronghorn, etc. but there is a huge differance between population control and eradication. i think having a seasonal wolf hunt is a good idea, and i think the quotas for differant areas are a fine way to do it. I also think problem wolves and packs that prey on livestock need to be dealt with. but having open season on wolves all year long sounds a bit ridiculous to me. there are only like 200 something wolves in wyoming anyway..we're not talking populations in the thousands here. so why don't you guys just let game and fish do their job...

great post. I agree 100%
 
If you like elk join Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation. Nuff said!!!!

RMEF has a great common sense approach to wolve control and the way they can actually help the elk. Wyoming and Montana have got a big battle with brucellosis in the feed grounds and cattle coming in contact with them. They have even heard from lobbyists that think killing ALL of the elk and bison in the feed ground areas just so the beef producers can maintain their "brucellosis free" status.
 
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