Witnessing child abuse

[jim]

Reporting it is one thing, but unfortunately you may put that kid in a much worse place for the rest of his life if he's taken away from his parents. We really don't have good solutions in place for issues like this, unless severe abuse is occuring (sexual or severe physical). I think alot of kids need the discipline but where you draw the line is tough. Being PC is tough...but all I know is I see alot of kids running the gamet on their parents...they own em'.

 

[2001rmk700]

when i was younger i got my fair share of spankings, the spoon and the belt, in the long run it kept me out of alot of trouble and taught me to show a lot more respect then how kids act today.
it is a tough call slapping a two years old is a little over board but just think how the results may turn out it could end up a lot worse off

 

[bonz50]

I remember when I was a kid in the 70's my mother had taken us to K-mart. I was like 4 or 5 and my brother was like 9 or 10. We instantly went back to the toy section and generally we were mellow kids out in public. Mom was in the sewing department so we knew that would take forever. We got bored quickly, so we played the game that you try to find and watch someone without being seen. Pretty much like hide and seek or Mall security guard. Anyway unknownst to us my mother was is a frantic looking for us. She had store employees looking for us. We found her and we came out when we saw her starting to cry. One the way out the door we passed a police officer that didn't take a report or anything. But we really didn't know how serious it was and my brother made the comment that he can't wait to come back again and play or some other smart remark. This earned him a red pattern outlining my mothers fingers across the face. Some guy saw this in the parking lot and came over and lectured my mother further, not realizing what we had just put her though. She got in the car and broke down when she got in the car. It was the moment few kids see when one of their parent figures just emotionally crashes. I remember it was a quite ride home with my brother and I apologizing up and down. We deseerved to get the whooping of our lives for putting my mother through that day. She didn't deserve the one sided lecture of a stranger after what we did. Some people just need to either mind their business and let people take charge of thier kids like everyone in America claims parents don't do anymore. Or if you think it is abuse go talk to them about it and counsel them. Don't use the cell phone and make the "anonimous citizen" tip because you may just be making things worse.

F-N-A man... you don't know the whole story behind what happened, stay the fug out of it... 99% of parents are good loving people that want their kids ot grow up right, don't punish the good ones by reporting something when you don't know the whole story...

 

[EastcapeAngler]

If he got that in public I wonder what he gets at home? Only one way to find out. You don't want to beat your kid or your dog around me.

I agree with this concensus,, dunno if it's right or not. But I was beat pretty severely growing up over "not so severe" antics. I don't like seein' it happen.

 

[Superjag]

99% of parents are good loving people that want their kids ot grow up right...

Take it from somebody who does child custody for a living that the percentage of parents who are good and loving is about half that number. Have you been to a mall lately?

 

[bonz50]

Take it from somebody who does child custody for a living that the percentage of parents who are good and loving is about half that number. Have you been to a mall lately?

yes I have... have you seen what doing NOTHING to these kids does??? most of these kids at the mall need their damn jaws slapped around the other side of their heads...

and i don't know what side of the table you sit on, but... if you're in a DCFS style agency, imho, you're part of the problem, no offense

 

[H2SNOW]

didn't catch the age thing at first ...2-3 ...hmmmm kid doesn't even have reasoning or knowing from right or wrong ...I say we all review the tape and meet in an hour....

if a kid says **** you Mom at age 7-20 ....damn right he will get a smack .....this causes two things ....Mom is boss and what she says goes ,and the shame of it 2nd ...for that you achieve a little known trait called " Respect "

that day I got schooled in rerspect !

 

[Hollywood D]

As far as the law in concerned (in CO), no it's not a child abuse. You can discipline your kids any way you want as long as you're not causing an injury. Injury meaning bruises, broken bones, etc. A little red mark from getting spanked isn't really an injury. It goes away after a couple minutes. I wish more parents would discipline their kids that way. There are so many little chit heads out running around b/c they have no Dad and Mom is "afraid of them" so they won't lay a hand on them and expect the state to raise their kids for them.

Being that the kid is about 2yo i would say that it's probably out of line but not illegal though.

 

[H2SNOW]

As far as the law in concerned (in CO), no it's not a child abuse. You can discipline your kids any way you want as long as you're not causing an injury. Injury meaning bruises, broken bones, etc. A little red mark from getting spanked isn't really an injury. It goes away after a couple minutes. I wish more parents would discipline their kids that way. There are so many little chit heads out running around b/c they have no Dad and Mom is "afraid of them" so they won't lay a hand on them and expect the state to raise their kids for them.

Being that the kid is about 2yo i would say that it's probably out of line but not illegal though.

HERE HERE !!!

 

[John]

I hate to see this kind of stuff too but agree that unless you know the whole story or the kid is obviously hurt maybe you should stay out of it.

When I was about 11 we were in the store with my mom and I was being a little p-rick. I just kept pushing her hoping she would snap. Don't ask me why, I was just that kind of a kid. Well she did snap and laid into me verbally right there in the store. I don't remember what I said but her response was to call me a SOB. Me being the wise arse that I was asked her what that made her. Oh boy, I can still remember the crack that was probably heard a mile away as her hand made contact with my face. I had her hand print on my face for a good two hours. Did it make me start treating her with a little more respect? You bet. I'm glad nobody called the cops. Soon after that I discovered there were a lot worse places I could be...

 

[jaxnjil]

if you have to ask it must not have been that bad.
your heart told you to keep quiet then-keep ouiet now

 

[gusto]

If you went up to a person and slapped them in the face, you could be charged with assault...could you not?

When I was a kid, I got my share of spankings, but never a slap on the face. I deserved every spanking I got from my parents.

Slapping a 2 year old in the face is unacceptable. The kid is still in diapers for crying out loud.

I would have confronted the parents, that's for sure.

Fosgate has a unique situation, that I can understand, but if an infant is making a fuss... and that is it... that is totally something else.

I totally agree 2 yrs old is way to young for that.

 

[vmaxfrank]

Me being the wise arse that I was asked her what that made her. Oh boy, I can still remember the crack that was probably heard a mile away as her hand made contact with my face. I had her hand print on my face for a good two hours.

I thought I was the only one that did that! Same result, too. I was one of 3 brothers and what we did to each other was far worse than our parents did. Sling shots to the mouth, tree branches, hammers, etc.

Funniest thing I ever saw was when my 16 year old oldest brother raised a fist to my Dad. Dad asked, you want to fight like a man, huh? Brother got two cracked ribs. I never challenged my Dad to this day.

2 years old, too young for a slap IMHO, but sad fact of life is too many parents don't even care enought to smack their kids or smack them too much. Very few kids are being raised right. I'm doing my best, but I'm still not sure how mine will turn out.

 

[bonz50]

Funniest thing I ever saw was when my 16 year old oldest brother raised a fist to my Dad. Dad asked, you want to fight like a man, huh? Brother got two cracked ribs. I never challenged my Dad to this day.

to this day I still wouldn't do that... and my dad is 65yrs old and I am about 6" taller and outweigh him by some 60-75lbs, i know for a FACT that if he were not my dad I could whoop his azz somethin ugly... respect keeps me from doing so, respect i learned when young about having a healthy fear of him and the consequences of me fuccin up... he never beat me, spanked is a different story though and every time i did i deserved probably a lot worse than he gave

 

[TurboGuy800]

holy crap what a bunch of puzzies, my dad beat me when i needed it, did i deserve it hell no! all i did was tell him to fugg off and i was right!!! yeah right, then i got it and learned that i have to respect people and look i haven't shot up a school or mall or anything. if more parents acted like mine and gave it when needed maybe there wouldn't be so many little fuggers running into the population shooting. you dont know what the kid did to deserve it. not saying you are this way but most people that stick there nose in others business do it cause they cant control their own home, it seems to me.

and i dare some lib to try and tell me how to run my family or train my dog or cut my grass or anything else for that matter you better bring the cops cause i agree with several others there will be a case of abuse, on a whinney little fugger

 

[buck50]

I hate to see this kind of stuff too but agree that unless you know the whole story or the kid is obviously hurt maybe you should stay out of it.

When I was about 11 we were in the store with my mom and I was being a little p-rick. I just kept pushing her hoping she would snap. Don't ask me why, I was just that kind of a kid. Well she did snap and laid into me verbally right there in the store. I don't remember what I said but her response was to call me a SOB. Me being the wise arse that I was asked her what that made her. Oh boy, I can still remember the crack that was probably heard a mile away as her hand made contact with my face. I had her hand print on my face for a good two hours. Did it make me start treating her with a little more respect? You bet. I'm glad nobody called the cops. Soon after that I discovered there were a lot worse places I could be...

similar situation with me when i was 12ish. i had been spanked in the past, not excessively or often, but it did happen. this particular day, i was having a fairly heated argument with my mother, and as usual my dad stayed out of it. well i pushed it a little too far and called my mother a B!*$H. all of s sudden i see my dad stand up, and off to the races i went! ran downstairs, and tried to lock myself in the bathroom. didn't work very well. dad kicked the door in, grab me by the face(palmed my face like a basketball actually), yarded me out of the bathroom and threw me into the wall. on impact, the back of my head broke thru the drywall, i slid to the floor, and my father proceeded to tell me that if i EVER called my mom anything like that again, i might not be around much longer. he never hit me during that exchange, and i'll tell you what, i never called my mom another name, at least not out loud. did he abuse me, h3ll no. did i have much more respect for my mom after that, damn skippy!!!!!! maybe kids these days need a bit more tough love, then maybe there wouldn't be as many kids out there breaking everything and killing eachother. i know it wasn't as big of a problem 25 yearsago as it is today

 

[TurboGuy800]

I thought I was the only one that did that! Same result, too. I was one of 3 brothers and what we did to each other was far worse than our parents did. Sling shots to the mouth, tree branches, hammers, etc.

Funniest thing I ever saw was when my 16 year old oldest brother raised a fist to my Dad. Dad asked, you want to fight like a man, huh? Brother got two cracked ribs. I never challenged my Dad to this day.

this hits home... i was 20 before the three of us me and my two brothers 17 and 14 all of which are in good shape finnally got the best of my dad once! he can really fend off a swarm attack tell ya what. hahaha i dont think i will take him on when he is in a wheel chair for fear of getting the sh!t kick out of me by a cripple

 

[H2SNOW]

similar situation with me when i was 12ish. i had been spanked in the past, not excessively or often, but it did happen. this particular day, i was having a fairly heated argument with my mother, and as usual my dad stayed out of it. well i pushed it a little too far and called my mother a B!*$H. all of s sudden i see my dad stand up, and off to the races i went! ran downstairs, and tried to lock myself in the bathroom. didn't work very well. dad kicked the door in, grab me by the face(palmed my face like a basketball actually), yarded me out of the bathroom and threw me into the wall. on impact, the back of my head broke thru the drywall, i slid to the floor, and my father proceeded to tell me that if i EVER called my mom anything like that again, i might not be around much longer. he never hit me during that exchange, and i'll tell you what, i never called my mom another name, at least not out loud. did he abuse me, h3ll no. did i have much more respect for my mom after that, damn skippy!!!!!! maybe kids these days need a bit more tough love, then maybe there wouldn't be as many kids out there breaking everything and killing eachother. i know it wasn't as big of a problem 25 yearsago as it is today

tahts fcuken geart.....dman skippy lmao

 

[Wish]

My .02

It may not be our business, but in my honest opinion you should report it...I've got 12 years in early childhood education and I can tell you that our system sucks for this kind of thing. There ARE children that are getting abused, and we just don't know. When you call on something like this, it isn't like the kid gets taken away with one call. It unfortunatly takes mulitple incidents (at least in our state) before the system really starts stepping in.
I hate to see things like that, and granted I wish people could mind their own business and let things be family business....but there are just some people that just don't deserve to have a child.

Whats sickening is that it has become socially acceptable, and this lady is smacking her child upside the face while onlookers just pass on by out of fear of the concenquences.
Whatever you decide it has to be what you feel right doing....if that baby is getting abused...its going to take a lot more than just your call to get him/her out of the situation though....

I don't understand why a parent can't see what a blessing they really have...makes me want to go home and hug my kids.

 

[TurboGuy800]

no thats the problem it used to be that at home you learned your place, and if you acted up in public you got what was yours and now instead of being accepted you got a bunch of bleeding hearts that think yelling at a kid for using drugs puts too much stress in their fragile little exsistance, BS smack the little fugger around, have rules and punishments for breaking them. what was seen as ok 50 years ago is now seen as abuse.