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Buzzard3487 said:
Not being a brand Loyal Person. I would just like a truthful answer to this Question. Why after years of blown motors, broken axles, broken suspension bolts, broken drive belts and numerous other Quality Issues do People still buy Polaris Snowmobiles,,,,,,after the third or fourth blown motor...i would run like HE#$ to another more reliable brand. Just asking why!!!!!!:sorry:
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Because out of all the reasons you just mentioned I have not experienced any of them yet. My sled runs great and is a ton of fun.
 
I'm asking myself the same question .......
Snowchecked a 2012 Pro Rmk, and still chasing electrical gremlins!
 
Hey Rugby! You've got the lookout cabin as your pic, sweet! Sorry to hear about the electrical issues. I've got an M1100 for sale right now if you're interested. No electrical issues and has monster power.
 
Buzzard3487 said:
Not being a brand Loyal Person. I would just like a truthful answer to this Question. Why after years of blown motors, broken axles, broken suspension bolts, broken drive belts and numerous other Quality Issues do People still buy Polaris Snowmobiles,,,,,,after the third or fourth blown motor...i would run like HE#$ to another more reliable brand. Just asking why!!!!!!:sorry:
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Polaris industries is probably wondering the same thing....why do people keep buying this **** that we build???
 
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Buzzard3487 said:
Not being a brand Loyal Person. I would just like a truthful answer to this Question. Why after years of blown motors, broken axles, broken suspension bolts, broken drive belts and numerous other Quality Issues do People still buy Polaris Snowmobiles,,,,,,after the third or fourth blown motor...i would run like HE#$ to another more reliable brand. Just asking why!!!!!!:sorry:
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My take on this; Polaris has always done right by me, granted I have built all my sleds from scratch for 18 years. Solely selecting the best stock and aftermarket parts and modifying or making my own, if a quality part that suited my requirements was not available. That being said the Polaris base is good to work with and as I build the sled I can fix all the identified short comings. Over the years for the most part there have been more options available for Polaris because they have carried the lions share of all sled sales and especially the mountain sled market fairly consistently for the last twenty plus years and have a known history of being the most innovative. All while keeping ahead of the other three in manufacturing technology and materials. Even if their sleds are twenty years behind the materials used in other high end motor sports. I have never had any of the issues with any of my builds that get so passionately debated and published on here. Some of which I likely have averted before hand by well selected parts and preventative choices. Much like my decision to only run long rod engines in my current builds, to not only get a better rod ratio but to gain needed crankcase volume to be an effective efficient air pump, the small crankcase volume is handicapping the volumetric efficiency of the 800's. You can crutch this up with a turbo and force the air thru it but the long rod eliminates the stock vibration issues, the cylinder skirt cracking issues, and while you are in their fix the taper that Polaris seems to have trouble keeping out of their mono-block cylinders. My second choice would be Skidoo, although they have always been too heavy and to ill handling for my taste and now that they are running the wide utility sled tracks I have no use for one. My third choice would be Cat, but their chassis has aways been too heavy and too flimsy where it counts. They flex too much right between the front suspension and the engine. I've re-welded more than my fair share of friends cat chassis and in my opinion they are ill engineered junk, but they seem to attract a following for some reason, likely the loud, gay riding gear colors. Which caters to the younger crowd in search of an identity. Lastly Yamaha (Sherman tank on snow) too heavy even without any engine in it. I once had a full mod Yamaha in the shop, doing some chassis work before the engine was installed. That pig broke every sled dolly in my shop before we even set the engine in it. The original Phasers were the opposite too light and fragile drop into an existing track and both bumpers would smack your helmet at the same time.

I'm glad that I've never needed to resort to any of the other three brands, as Polaris has always offered me what I was looking for in a sled. Whether in the whole sled package or just the parts I desired for my builds. Additionally their parts are fairly priced. Cat parts are typically a bit cheaper but the base sled is junk. Ultimately you need to find what you like and ride it like you stole it. They all have their followings for whatever reasons.
 
I am fairly certain that Ski-doo, Arctic Cat and Yamaha or not free from any of these problems either.
 
Paul_Aris said:
I am fairly certain that Ski-doo, Arctic Cat and Yamaha or not free from any of these problems either.
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Exactly:
Some XMs have had the T-motion break and some have burnt to the ground due to a fuel nipple breaking/leaking.

The M series from Cat was chewing up belt like crazy last year, I believe the 1100T was destroying the reverse gears. Haven't browsed the Cat Pro forums for info in the 2013s.

Yamaha - well don't know of any other than they weigh a ton and those that bleed blue are desperately wishing Yamie will build a mtn sled.
 
richracer1 said:
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Some XMs have had the T-motion break and some have burnt to the ground due to a fuel nipple breaking/leaking.

The M series from Cat was chewing up belt like crazy last year, I believe the 1100T was destroying the reverse gears. Haven't browsed the Cat Pro forums for info in the 2013s.

Yamaha - well don't know of any other than they weigh a ton and those that bleed blue are desperately wishing Yamie will build a mtn sled.
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I'm not 100% sure on the Yamaha mtn sleds but I know some of the trail models suffered from really bad shock calibrations, and bad handling.
 
Paul_Aris said:
I'm not 100% sure on the Yamaha mtn sleds but I know some of the trail models suffered from really bad shock calibrations, and bad handling.
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This doesn't leave you down, unable to ride for weeks.

Polaris reliability is crap...but I love the Pro chassis. But there is a point where you have to be realistic.

I think it'll be a compromise to give up on the Pro. But if I'm fighting chassis setup or chassis design flaws..at least I would not be replacing engines/electronics every 1000, or afraid of being towed out, always worried about the engine, clutches, drive shafts....etc


I really would like Yamaha to build a mountain sled (that means realizing LESS weight is actually a priority)..and adds factory boost already.
 
all sleds have some problems,i sold my 09 m1000 w/slp pipe,clutch mods,burandt shocks etc.for my pro, my m1000 had a great motor but used a lot of gas and oil.could explode a belt if you didn't watch it,steering feel and effort were the worst of any sled i've had,trenched like mad plus my friends pro climbed better,handled better, stayed on top of the snow,used less gas and oil,has fantasic belt life etc.with no mods,the pro has a top end problem but if you take precautions it will be fine,and you really don't miss the power because every thing else works so well, so ride what you like no sled is perfect,
 
rotax said:
This doesn't leave you down, unable to ride for weeks.

Polaris reliability is crap...but I love the Pro chassis. But there is a point where you have to be realistic.

I think it'll be a compromise to give up on the Pro. But if I'm fighting chassis setup or chassis design flaws..at least I would not be replacing engines/electronics every 1000, or afraid of being towed out, always worried about the engine, clutches, drive shafts....etc


I really would like Yamaha to build a mountain sled (that means realizing LESS weight is actually a priority)..and adds factory boost already.
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True. They have had bigger issues than that but more rare with a Yamaha. Of course those aren't really in the same category as a Pro, XM, or Proclimb. I don't know a lot of people with Etecs but of the ones I do know of 2 of them went down as well. I guess any of them can have issues but one just seems to have more when it comes to the engines and and electrical.

To be fair you could probably get your motor built to be reliable (long rod) for what it wold cost to lighten a yamaha.
 
rotax said:
This doesn't leave you down, unable to ride for weeks.

Polaris reliability is crap...but I love the Pro chassis. But there is a point where you have to be realistic.

I think it'll be a compromise to give up on the Pro. But if I'm fighting chassis setup or chassis design flaws..at least I would not be replacing engines/electronics every 1000, or afraid of being towed out, always worried about the engine, clutches, drive shafts....etc


I really would like Yamaha to build a mountain sled (that means realizing LESS weight is actually a priority)..and adds factory boost already.
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Sell that P.O.S and buy something else.:deadhorse:
 
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