The UP of MI is alot different than out west but it is not uncommon to see Vipers and Sidewinders playing off trail here. I think the main reason is the sidewinders can be had for a stupid low price, a local dealer is selling a new 2016 MTX 162 for $6,300. I dont mind the extra weight when you have an easily accessible trail within a mile of your location but out west you can get well off the beaten path and be SOL if you are not a decent rider. I absolutely love the reliability of these machines and am a firm believer that the chassis is stout, but like mentioned before there is one main issue that needs to be addressed... WEIGHT!!! I do not care with a simple reflash you can be making 300hp when I bury the thing once and I want to be done riding for the day or all of my buddies are giving me **** about getting a "tank" unstuck. I love everything else yamaha but feel that they have almost given up on the sled industry and wish they would invest more R&D time into these machines.