My 17 year old son slipped off board and hit it with his hip and snapped the 13 assault,right where it glues in.The 14 pro is my wifes sled and i was on it ,pulled it on its side and hooked a small rock,broke it just at bolt hole ,where it mounts to tunnel.Trust me they are junk.The board is tuff but the back piece with holes molded in is crap..
who's got time on a 14 kitty
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Have to agree. Rode a 10 that felt like a turd compared to a 14.
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carlc
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I am on my second primary clutch, original secondary, 6 belts, one chain, and a piston on my 12 proclimb. Swapped my. 40" a arms for 38s, never bent an a arm. It has a boondocker turbo and about 3600 miles. Two buddies bought 14 assaults, one bent an a arm at 150 miles, one bent his tunnel with his rump when he slid off the back of the seat, saw a locked up 14 pro on the trail today, said he had 440 miles on it.
IMO from what I have seen I can take my cat and other friends can take their cats to the same places as any pro we have ridden with. The difference is we don't have to worry about our engines, QD belts, tunnels, glue, etc. and be careful with the whole warranty deal, lots of Polaris places like to deny warranty because of a can.
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IMO from what I have seen I can take my cat and other friends can take their cats to the same places as any pro we have ridden with. The difference is we don't have to worry about our engines, QD belts, tunnels, glue, etc. and be careful with the whole warranty deal, lots of Polaris places like to deny warranty because of a can.
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rmscustom
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Funny how experiences differ. I see Pros run day after day with no problems and PCs with 20 trips to the dealer in 2 years and Cat turning their back on them guys and their only choice was to sell them and buy XMs or Pros.
Sure you can take them there, all you have to do is work harder at it. I don't "worry" about my engine, belts or tunnel, I just ride the snot out of it. If something breaks I fix it, just like on the Cats I used to ride, and just like you do. Nobody is denying warranty based on an aftermarket can. That was years ago in the 800 Dragon days. I had less than a week left on my warranty and brought in a blown QD belt. Polaris replaced it no questions with a new improved '14 version. I didn't even bring the sled in.
You simply can not lay the Cat on its side an super low speeds and crawl through the trees like the Pro will. The Cats don't get up on the snow like the Pro does either. Much of this you wouldn't know without riding one for a while. The light weight and superior geometry of the Pro put it in a completely different class than the rest. I chose to deal with the potential of an engine problem over having to horse a fat pig through the woods every ride. I know I made the right choice for my riding style, my buddies on Cats and Doos hate following me through the woods.
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anziconda
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I've got just under 600 miles on my 14 prolite 800. This sled is a hoot!! It side hills like a dream for me, gets up on the snow quick. I noticed the front end wanting to dive on my first ride. Put Polaris grippers on the second ride and that was a huge difference. My secondary seems to run a little on the hot side, but belt looks new with just under 600 miles. We have had awesome snow here in Montana too, so it's been worked. The track is unreal!! It's like a tractor, lol I hardly even need to be on the throttle to go places I'm used to be pinned through. Only problem so far is my grip warmers quit...getting fixed with warr., but haven't had time to take it in...too busy working and riding.
Note:I still haven't ridden a stock pro climb, lol. Only seat time I have is on a 13, and 14 prolite.
Note:I still haven't ridden a stock pro climb, lol. Only seat time I have is on a 13, and 14 prolite.
Pick your poison..... We have both in our riding group. the guys with the PC spend money on bdx front ends and skiny'n up the plastics(makes them "slow" side hill like a pro, good money spent IMO), team secondary (cat clutches are junk)and cans(easy 15lbs gone) and new running boards, also helps the 'slow' side hill (air frames or b&m in our group). The guys with the pros spend money on big bores, and tracks (3" on a poo is goooood and the stock track is mediocre at best, power claw is very good on the cat. IMO). At the end of the day the sleds are so close.i went with cat b/c the dealer was better and I still have warranty at the end of the day b/c my cat doesn't have a big bore. People that say the poo has better bottom end where not riding a good cat..... No way! They are both awesome sled. I was hoping one of our group would get a xm so we can 'diversify' even more, but no good dealers in out area. My .02
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ARICH
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Spent last week on a 13 pro 163 in some deep untouched cooke city snow, It is definitley a good chassis and so easy to sidehill with.
My only complaints (i know most are fixable):
1. It had an annoying low end bog(probably from aftermarket can)
2. When sitting on the seat being lazy just cruising along it doesnt like to steer worth a crap without rider input
3. its snappy, but really needs ten or fifteen more hp
4. when i finally decide to get over the junk motor thing and buy one, two of my buddies blow their newer pro's up
We are heading back out on thursday and i plan to rent a 14 M8 for a day and then i will make my decision but im pretty sure i will have a pro in my shop this fall!
My only complaints (i know most are fixable):
1. It had an annoying low end bog(probably from aftermarket can)
2. When sitting on the seat being lazy just cruising along it doesnt like to steer worth a crap without rider input
3. its snappy, but really needs ten or fifteen more hp
4. when i finally decide to get over the junk motor thing and buy one, two of my buddies blow their newer pro's up
We are heading back out on thursday and i plan to rent a 14 M8 for a day and then i will make my decision but im pretty sure i will have a pro in my shop this fall!
I have completely given up on trying to ride the Pro from the seat. If set up well for the powder, you are right, it doesn't steer at all on the trail. Of course, we don't buy them for the trails! I just stand all the time now, I only use the seat when we are stopped.
How many miles on the blown Pros? I really think compression tests need to start at 1000 miles. If it drops, it is piston time. Waiting ensures more expensive failures.
Mine is running really strong... just about to 800 miles. Pistons over the summer for sure. If you do pistons and head you pick up ~15hp putting you even with the others and picking up reliability.
How many miles on the blown Pros? I really think compression tests need to start at 1000 miles. If it drops, it is piston time. Waiting ensures more expensive failures.
Mine is running really strong... just about to 800 miles. Pistons over the summer for sure. If you do pistons and head you pick up ~15hp putting you even with the others and picking up reliability.
i have a ’13 cat with all the ’14 updates and skid relocation to match the ’14. seems like i fight the sled all the time. it simply does not go where i want it too. it does not do sidehills at slow speeds (granted, a lot has to do with my riding ability). However, I rode my buddy’s ’14 assault with the stance on the narrowest setting, and I could slowly sidehill and make the sled go where i wanted it to much easier. it just felt easier to ride and did not seem as big.
i did notice the motor did not seem as powerful at the cat, but his engine is new and i didn’t want to rail it since it was not mine.
i’m pretty sure i will be buying a pro this week and keeping the cat for a buddy/backup sled
i did notice the motor did not seem as powerful at the cat, but his engine is new and i didn’t want to rail it since it was not mine.
i’m pretty sure i will be buying a pro this week and keeping the cat for a buddy/backup sled
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SSWIM
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I have both. A 2014 Proclimb, and a 2013 Pro. 163" and 162". Both work really well. Amazing what the new sleds will do. I have had 4 Pros and a 2012 Proclimb. The Pros were 2011 & 2012. Still have the 2012 Pro. The 2014 Proclimb is so much better than the 2012 Proclimb its crazy. Even though they didn't do a ton of stuff, the upgrades they did were substantial. The 2013 Pro is better than the 2012 Pro. I can't comment on the 2014 Pro, as I haven't ridden one. Some say they are better. My 2011 Pro had a turbo. I have had a fairly long list of turbos in my stable in the past.
With that said, I have quite a bit of experience on both. Our riding style is mostly tree bashing, some climbing and mostly backcountry riding. First off, I am NO Chris Burandt or Matt Entz. I am fairly proficient at boondocking but make no claims to be a star.
My opinion. The Pro has set the bar regarding backcountry riding, no doubt. The 2014 Proclimb is as good or better in everything other than a VERY VERY technical sidehill. One that is probably only ridden .5% of the time. The Proclimb is easier to ride and sidehill. I will get flamed for this statement, but it is my opinion. Very little rider input is needed. Am I saying the Pro is hard to ride. Not at all. Its a great sled. We did quite a few comparisons this winter and the Pro is the King when it comes to sidehilling and getting on top of the snow, DEEP snow that is. The Proclimb was right there with the Pro in the very deep snow. Get in the snow that is what we ride 90% of the time and the Proclimb would perform better. The 2.6 track really works well. Another thing that is very obvious is the snow build up. Many scoff at it as a marketing ploy. HAHA. It is real. The Proclimb holds very little snow where the Pro seems to hold quite a bit. No, we haven't weighted them, but the difference is there, and real. Climbing in deep soft snow, the Pro is a lot closer to the Proclimb than we thought would be. The Pro climb will out mark the Pro, but not by much. In the heavier snow, the Proclimb is at definite advantage due to the track. At the end of the day the Pro tires me out more than the Proclimb.
Eric Woog\VOHK did a write up last year pertaining to the two sleds and I feel hew hit it right on. It would be interesting to see the same comparison to the 2014 Proclimb, as it is a better sled than the 2013 he wrote about at that time.
Again, my 02. Many will disagree. that's cool. we need debate to keep things lively.
Oh yea, the reliability?? I blew up the 2011 Pro due to fueling of the sled (turbo). My fault. The other 2 have been perfect.
Bottom line. Both are incredible sleds and will provide plenty of performance.
Sam
With that said, I have quite a bit of experience on both. Our riding style is mostly tree bashing, some climbing and mostly backcountry riding. First off, I am NO Chris Burandt or Matt Entz. I am fairly proficient at boondocking but make no claims to be a star.
My opinion. The Pro has set the bar regarding backcountry riding, no doubt. The 2014 Proclimb is as good or better in everything other than a VERY VERY technical sidehill. One that is probably only ridden .5% of the time. The Proclimb is easier to ride and sidehill. I will get flamed for this statement, but it is my opinion. Very little rider input is needed. Am I saying the Pro is hard to ride. Not at all. Its a great sled. We did quite a few comparisons this winter and the Pro is the King when it comes to sidehilling and getting on top of the snow, DEEP snow that is. The Proclimb was right there with the Pro in the very deep snow. Get in the snow that is what we ride 90% of the time and the Proclimb would perform better. The 2.6 track really works well. Another thing that is very obvious is the snow build up. Many scoff at it as a marketing ploy. HAHA. It is real. The Proclimb holds very little snow where the Pro seems to hold quite a bit. No, we haven't weighted them, but the difference is there, and real. Climbing in deep soft snow, the Pro is a lot closer to the Proclimb than we thought would be. The Pro climb will out mark the Pro, but not by much. In the heavier snow, the Proclimb is at definite advantage due to the track. At the end of the day the Pro tires me out more than the Proclimb.
Eric Woog\VOHK did a write up last year pertaining to the two sleds and I feel hew hit it right on. It would be interesting to see the same comparison to the 2014 Proclimb, as it is a better sled than the 2013 he wrote about at that time.
Again, my 02. Many will disagree. that's cool. we need debate to keep things lively.
Oh yea, the reliability?? I blew up the 2011 Pro due to fueling of the sled (turbo). My fault. The other 2 have been perfect.
Bottom line. Both are incredible sleds and will provide plenty of performance.
Sam
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ARICH
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One is a 13 with broken crank, just over 1k
the other is a 14 with <1k
I realize its not a trail sled and thats not where my complaints come from, but it would be nice if it would steer from the seat while your trying to rest a little bit.
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ARICH
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SSwim, I pretty much had my mind made up to get a pro, untill a couple guys i know on 14 cats said they where night and day vs the 12&13 pc's, one of the guys i know was all about the pros untill he rode the 14 cat and now he owns one.
thanks for your .02!
I will let you guys know what i think of the 14 pc this weekend
thanks for your .02!
I will let you guys know what i think of the 14 pc this weekend
Sam's post is pretty well spot on. The 14 cat is awesome. They do side hill easier. I guess it is not that they sidehill easier. They tip up easier or take less effort to get them there. Everything out there is easier to tip than the pro. The pro has a breaking point where the others are kind of linear. The cool thing about the pro is it is stable yet easy. I think the proclimb could be squirrely if you get tired. The pro takes it in the trees but the cat is more fun in the open or not so technical. It will boil down to the riders. I really like how the cat doesn't seem to drag the running boards and body like the xm does. I have been lucky with all my pros so I don't buy into all the unreliable bs that is on hear. It is always on my mind but I have been lucky. I am going to try out a supercharged pro and proclimb on monday so we will see witch is better. It is the pro I am more interested in. Should be a hoot.
