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There is/has been a lot of complaining. This is true.

As a small business owner, I would welcome my existing customers complaints.
That right there is an opportunity for improvement.

You guys act like complainers should simply go away.
That is why you would never make it as business operators.

With your mentality....If someone doesn't like govt. run health care, they should just shut up & accept it. After all whiners are just trouble makers.;)
 
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There is/has been a lot of complaining. This is true.

As a small business owner, I would welcome my existing customers complaints.
That right there is an opportunity for improvement.

You idiots act like complainers should simply go away.
That is why you would never make it as business operators.

With your mentality....If someone doesn't like govt. run health care, they should hust shut up & accept it. After all whiners are just trouble makers.;)

Legitimate complaints are one thing. Constant whining tatrums, of how you're going to leave because of being picked on is another. Like I said in an earlier post, if somebody doesn't like it here, don't let the door hit ya in the @ss on the way out. Sw doesn't have a gun to anyone's head making them stay here, at least that I know of. It's a free site at least to this point, once it becomes a pay site, then and only then might a complaint have some merit once actually paying for the service. Oh and I also own a couple businesses and I'm pretty sure I could probably buy you ten times over, so your business operator statement is pretty stupid.:rolleyes:
 
Legitimate complaints are one thing. Constant whining tatrums, of how you're going to leave because of being picked on is another. Like I said in an earlier post, if somebody doesn't like it here, don't let the door hit ya in the @ss on the way out. Sw doesn't have a gun to anyone's head making them stay here, at least that I know of. It's a free site at least to this point, once it becomes a pay site, then and only then might a complaint have some merit once actually paying for the service. Oh and I also own a couple businesses and I'm pretty sure I could probably buy you ten times over, so your business operator statement is pretty stupid.:rolleyes:

lmao...

This is a very true statement... spot on.
 
Legitimate complaints are one thing. Constant whining tatrums, of how you're going to leave because of being picked on is another. Like I said in an earlier post, if somebody doesn't like it here, don't let the door hit ya in the @ss on the way out. Sw doesn't have a gun to anyone's head making them stay here, at least that I know of. It's a free site at least to this point, once it becomes a pay site, then and only then might a complaint have some merit once actually paying for the service. Oh and I also own a couple businesses and I'm pretty sure I could probably buy you ten times over, so your business operator statement is pretty stupid.:rolleyes:

WOW, My d*ck is bigger than yours lol:rolleyes: what does it matter who you could buy out, Maybe I could buy you out, does that make any of my arguments any more valid Than yours?
 
you said it brother, all the energy complaining from some of those guys, just seems like they are just trying to get a huge post count:beer;:beer;:beer;

yep that how we got up passed 36 posts, not from starting in 01 and when sw went to a new system 1000's were lost!
 
Legitimate complaints are one thing. Constant whining tatrums, of how you're going to leave because of being picked on is another. Like I said in an earlier post, if somebody doesn't like it here, don't let the door hit ya in the @ss on the way out. Sw doesn't have a gun to anyone's head making them stay here, at least that I know of. It's a free site at least to this point, once it becomes a pay site, then and only then might a complaint have some merit once actually paying for the service. Oh and I also own a couple businesses and I'm pretty sure I could probably buy you ten times over, so your business operator statement is pretty stupid.:rolleyes:

Maf, You've been called out. Why don't you let this guy buy you out 10 times over? Then you would be 10 times richer:D

Who gives a darn how many businesses you own Dooski. When you stop listening to your customer base you begin to have problems. That is all Maf was saying. Noone wanted to know anything about your doink. I hope you don't run your "businesses" with that if you don't like it don't let the door hit you in the butt attitude. If so you won't be buying out anyone. You need your customers they don't need you.
 
Some customers are better not dealt with... sometimes it's just not worth the money...

I've seen it happen in many times in a dealer, the service dept mainly, people get *****y and disrespectful, they get "Take your sh!t somewhere else, your business is not wanted here"
 
I've seen it happen in many times in a dealer, the service dept mainly, people get *****y and disrespectful, they get "Take your sh!t somewhere else, your business is not wanted here"

I have seen this happen in many different types of businesses.
 
I'm pretty sure I could probably buy you ten times over, so your business operator statement is pretty stupid.:rolleyes:

I delivered some fresh red rep for ya. You're welcome!

You actually seem more like one of those guys who are bulletproof behind a keyboard.

BTW...My dog is better than yours!:D
 
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You actually seem more like one of those guys who are bulletproof behind a keyboard.

BTW...My dog is better than yours!:D

Obviously you don't know me very well. I'll pm you my phone #, if you'd like to discuss. Far as the dog goes you're probably right, mine doesn't listen for sh!t.:D
 
You guys act like complainers should simply go away.
That is why you would never make it as business operators.

Lmao! You get called out because of your stupid statement, then get butt hurt about being called on it. I'll say it one more time slowwwwwly to you and the other whiners, if you don't like this place, don't let the door hit ya in the @ss. I've clearly stated legitimate complaints are one thing, constant whining is another. Now I know how Glenn Beck came up with his book title, Arguing with Idiots................ITS A FREE SITE, NOBODY IS BEING CHARGED YET. So your are entitled to what this place wants to give you for FREE, once it becomes a pay site it will be a different story. I know the concept is hard to grasp for some damn....................
 
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Lmao! You get called out because of your stupid statement, then get butt hurt about being called on it. I'll say it one more time slowwwwwly to you and the other whiners, if you don't like this place, don't let the door hit ya in the @ss. I've clearly stated legitimate complaints are one thing, constant whining is another. Now I know how Glenn Beck came up with his book title, Arguing with Idiots................ITS A FREE SITE, NOBODY IS BEING CHARGED YET. So your are entitled to what this place wants to give you for FREE, once it becomes a pay site it will be a different story. I know the concept is hard to grasp for some damn....................

Settle down Clarence.
First off, any of the criticism that I have given has been in regards to many of the changes this site has received in the recent months.
I have not "whined" about it becoming a pay to play site.
Therefore, that makes ME the one who appears to be arguing with an IDIOT!

So pour yourself a nice hot cup of STFU and we will get along just fine.

Good day Sir.
 
Oh and I also own a couple businesses and I'm pretty sure I could probably buy you ten times over, so your business operator statement is pretty stupid.:rolleyes:

i have never seen anything so stupid in written word as what you just said...maybee its time for you to retire those two kool-aid stands
 
Back to the topic. I left but then I look back that I have been with this site since probably 1997ish. At that time I was also on Amsnow and watched them do the same thing SW is doing now. I paid for the first year over there and while most all the trash talkers left, so did virtually all the knowledge after a few months. (I recall Big AL was a major contributor and I think he stopped posting after a few months and went elsewhere) Where you could get an answer for ideas in minutes, turned into days and weeks. If you look at their forum now it is dropped from any section filling 3-5 pages of posts a day to maybe 1 or 2 posts a day.

What has me upset is that there is a site already out there that shows us what is in store for the future of SW forum. I believe at the time AMSnow had far more members than SW until they started charging for the forum (even though you got a subscription with it for $20 a year). And just like the AMSnow mods, the SW mods and some senior members just put the blinders on and tell everyone that the Titanic is unsinkable and return to the bar.

Monetary value is moot, it's the principle that someone is charging for information that is free elsewhere that has got people chapped. Someone has the idea that people are so loyal to SW because of how long they have been here are in for a rude awakening in about a year when the first round of people who pay for the first year, do not renew.

AMSnow was great in the day with inside scoops, a ton of members and posts and they were in the same belief that they were going in a better direction. I don't know if it helped the publishing side but it killed the so called "better forum".

I'll keep my SW membership and lurk a bit more and watch it dwindle to a trickle. In turn I will probably spend more time on Arcticchat, hardcore, BCR and junkie until one of them evolves into the next main site.
 
i have never seen anything so stupid in written word as what you just said...maybee its time for you to retire those two kool-aid stands

I suppose we all can take somebody's comments a bit to seriously. I'll admit my comment was a bit over the top, but none the less I still feel this is a great site. I'll also agree with some there's a few things that need fixed, but I really don't think the way some are acting, is going to make SW want to just run out and bend over backwards to accomodate them. Hope everybody has a fun, safe year tearing up some snow this year................
 
I'll keep my SW membership and lurk a bit more and watch it dwindle to a trickle. In turn I will probably spend more time on Arcticchat, hardcore, BCR and junkie until one of them evolves into the next main site.

Yah, I just wonder how long that will take. Probably a year or so..
 
Yah, I just wonder how long that will take. Probably a year or so..

You say that like it's a long time. I recall SW dies down in Mid to late April and doesn't really pickup again until Sept or October. I think by late November early December we'll have a clear cut idea if people intend to renew or not. If the site does meet expectations I would expect about an 85% retention rate. If it does not however I would only expect maybe a 25-30% retention for renewals. I estimate these figures from my 12 years customer service experience in various industries. I would like to see SW the site it has been over the years, but I find it highly unlikely.
 
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