Who has tried a Jannetty Header?
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NM
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If you spend 1300.00 on a part that is supposed to work, and then drive 1300 kms to ride, and about 1500.00 on gas, Diesel, and food...and then your sled runs like crap for three days, how would you feel?
And then when you get home, the guy that sells you the part says " I make no claims of power, only quality and craftsmanship". He tells me my set up is wrong, when I know it is not. So I ask him if I set it up the way he wants, and it still will not work, then can I please get my money back(yes I did say please). He gives me the " I make no claims of power".
C'mon, this is a performance shop. Am I being unreasonable?
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no I don,t think you are being unreasonable if it in fact does lose performance. what good is quality if it doesn,t perform.
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HYFLYR
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I see what your saying and i have read all of it on TY, and i hate to say this but he is right. He makes no claim of hp but does with craftsmanship, and thats why you bought it right? To stop cracking headers or am i wrong? Im not saying you have no right to be pissed, i would be upset too if i had lost some power. However, you also admitted your sled was running lean and had 13 to 14 on your a/f, why not try to adjust this and get them to 12 or 12.5 where they should beand if it doesnt work then you might have an argument. I have rode one of these type headers and it was impressive to say the least, yeah it doesnt spool the fastest but it does what it was designed to and that is NOT CRACK! To me you took a chance on an aftermarket item, your unhappy, wow like this has never happened with an aftermarket product for everyone. You take that risk when you play in the aftermarket world. Either ride it and make it work or put on your old crackin headers and be done with it. Just my .02
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Would you have bought it if he told you it may hurt performance? He never did disclose this to me until after I found out it would not work. I explained that I ran high A/F all of last season, and my sled ripped. Ask Irmen if it was fast when I drove by his sled at Big Dawg. (sorry Mike) Veedy has this sled on a lot of film, and it hauls. (See Boost Duece) I am just trying to save someone else from making the same mistake. I have the new Alpine header on order, and they are sweet. They make more power than there previous header, and the way they build them now, they have not yet have one crack.
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If you knew so much about this alpine header and how good it is why didnt you buy it in the first place, its been out almost as long as the jannety header.Ok maybe you didnt know about it, thats a possibility. Ive seen the sled, i have the movies, thats all good and dandy, you got a fast sled, so do alot of other people. Like i said before, people were buying these to prevent cracking and the headaches of replacing headers, if you didnt realise there might be a loss of performance from a log style header you need to do some research, thats a known fact, has been for a long time. For the average rider and boost levels i think this header will work great, im agreeing with you that in the upper levels of boost it might not work that well because of its design style, but like i said you should have known that going into this. Chaulk this one up to the aftermarket gods, the header works as designed, to not crack, power might be sub par compared to old but it works. Im with you though, its a bummer deal but thats the game we play with these sleds, trial and error.
I don't understand how he can charge $1600 for his race manifold, thats just nuts. I could build that same manifold for $300 in parts and then my time, and from looking at the design it wouldn't take much time.
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Sorry to hear about your header issues that sucks, I'd be pissed off.
I'm running Alpine's new header and downpipe (true 4 into 1 design) and it hauls a$$. I wouldn't have thought an Alpine kit could spool any faster but it does with the new header. No reason for a supercharger with a kit that's as expolsive as this.
I'm running Alpine's new header and downpipe (true 4 into 1 design) and it hauls a$$. I wouldn't have thought an Alpine kit could spool any faster but it does with the new header. No reason for a supercharger with a kit that's as expolsive as this.
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Hyflyr, get off the "crack" pipe. Your starting to sound like an arse kissing TY guy.
Ok here lets try it again.
Your soo right use2bdoo, what an azzhat manufacturer, he doesnt know chit, he ripped you off fo sho, we should all kick him in the nuts and throw his headers at him! Better?
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The problem still kind of lies in the fact that Jannetty thinks his product will make equal power, and is marketing it in that manner. Like I said before, I just really don't want anyone to waste their money like I did. What Jannetty should have done, was Dyno this against the Alpine so he could give good information...at that point it is up to the consumer. Look at how he is selling it, it says replacement, it does not say anywhere that it may lose power. And then he bashes me and calls me an idiot...who took who's money.
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Remmy
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I haven't been on TY in months, but when the header was first released I specifically recall discussions regarding the log-style vs. a true 4 into 1 design. Ted claimed back then that the difference in hp between the two styles was so little that it was hardly of significance. Maybe you should do a search on the forums and remind him of his past comments. Although, unless someone can do a direct comparison on a dyno it probably wouldn't matter.
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Ya Remmy, I wish I would have known. Now I have a shiny wall ornament that cost me 1300.00. I have the same header as you on order and I know they work good. When you Alaska boys gonna come down to BC and ride with us? Alpine ride Feb 23-24, or maybe Yamafest end of March?
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I will take 50 please.
The merge collector alone from Burns Stainless with a t-25 flange and double slips, in 321 cost 600.00 alone, 321 stainless J bends are like 100.00 each you need 3 to build the header, then you have the head flange at 60.00 and 8 hours of cut and weld time + welding supplies and electricity.
Just an FYI.
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Yeah, to me those remarks are bogus, i have never heard of a log style making better response or more power, thats why all the ricer cars run equal length headers, 4 to 1 or 6 to 1 in their cars with turbos. Every car and every system is different but from everything i have rode or driven a equal length header and individual tube will make better boost due to its individual pulse design keeping the turbo spooled. Does he have a good header yes, will it be the best performance wise, i say no.
http://www.ty4stroke.com/viewtopic.php?t=54401
Show me were I bashed you and called you an Idiot (Please)
