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What turbo kit

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Shred Master

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Hey everyone,
So I picked up a new 2011 m8 snopro 153 3 weeks ago and love it great sled happy with the change over from Polaris but need to add boost Im from Vancouver so I ride whistler and coquilhalla quiet often so my elevations 4000 to 8000 feet maybe more but what kit would be best for my sled I'm thinking of the pump gas boondockers kit but will I have to change to the older head add race gas to prevent det input would be great

Cheers
 
There are way better options than boondickers.
They would be my last choice.
Cutler, OVS, Twisted, Quantum Velocity....
lots of options without dealing with them.
 
I will tell you to go with a CPC stage 2 or 3 kit, you will love it.. My buddy who lives out on the coast runs a boondocker kit that works very well. Don't rush your install and do it right the first time and it doesn't matter too much who's kit you go with. But go with the CPC;)
 
You need to go with a kit from a builder that will give you good support. There are no real cat dealers in the lower mainland that do turbo installs. So if you have a buddy that rides with boost I would probably get whatever he has. If you don't have that make friends with Never Enough Snow he doesn't work and has lots of time to do another install :lol:.

Personally I would not run a pumper on an M8 go race gas!!!
 
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I will tell you to go with a CPC stage 2 or 3 kit, you will love it.. My buddy who lives out on the coast runs a boondocker kit that works very well. Don't rush your install and do it right the first time and it doesn't matter too much who's kit you go with. But go with the CPC;)


I agree go with CPC Dale is very good to deal with before and after the sale. I am still getting the same customer service a year of my purchase as I did the day I arrived at his store to buy it.
I was going to do the Boondocker kit but after getting the run around for 2 months desided to to a CPC.
 
Thanks guys, how's everyones running and what is the max boost I could run on pump fuel without hittin det rob at my elevation 6psi?
 
Based on what? How many Boondocker Kits have you owned?

So... I have to make a mistake MYSELF, to learn from it?? Sorry, I don't think it has to be that way.

I like CPC, but honestly I'm just saying that the ONLY company I hear consistent issues with (people I know & people on here) is BD. I was just going to leave it as it is, but there's a TON of people I know who HAVE bought a BD product & won't do it again, I can learn from THEIR mistake without making my own. (also I've had 4 or 5 bd boxes & after years of working with them, never did get ANYWHERE near the runnability that I get from an attitude box in about 5 minutes.) If I could get a BD turbo without their electronics... I'd be all over it.

Btw, I know there's a bunch of people out there that ARE happy with their kits, but I go with the numbers & they just have a higher proportion of unhappy customers than the others.
 
Thanks guys, how's everyones running and what is the max boost I could run on pump fuel without hittin det rob at my elevation 6psi?

on AV gas you could get around 10 pounds if your pump gas unit allows you to turn it up that high......... maybe.
You will max out your injectors as well.
 
Cutler's are always happy to give u tech support for free

whether you bought something from them or not, I had a Cutler Dragon 1000 big bore motor in my m7 which I bought from MMsports they were happy to give me advice, the boonie box I had on it sucked, bought the attirude, it was easier to use than boonie, but still had it's share of problems, now i'm running a Tm901 with boonie turbo and box, i can't wait until the day comes where there will be a stand alone box like the PCV for turbos which eliminates all of the box adjustments. the boondocker is probably the one with the most sales, the Cutler is a little more expensive, but great support, the Attitude seems to perform really well once tuned, but at a much higher cost + $1k over Boonie
 
Twisted or cutler, I prefer twisted its the most basic to get the power and builds more power at lower boost. Just My opinion. But this is the first year I have seen a Boonedocker kit that actually worked the way they said it should, but the jury is still out, they have way more crap on them than compared to the other kits and the others are proven reliable.
 
I am running an OVS propane turbo on a 2011 m8 and couldn't be happier. Once adjusted no need to adjust just ride and even in the States propane is a whole lot cheaper. Just my 2 cents.
 
I am running an OVS propane turbo on a 2011 m8 and couldn't be happier. Once adjusted no need to adjust just ride and even in the States propane is a whole lot cheaper. Just my 2 cents.

I thought of the propane kit but how would I filL up on the trail I want to be able to ride all day long and not have to go back to the trucks to fill up or worry bout running out of fuel
 
So... I have to make a mistake MYSELF, to learn from it?? Sorry, I don't think it has to be that way.

I like CPC, but honestly I'm just saying that the ONLY company I hear consistent issues with (people I know & people on here) is BD. I was just going to leave it as it is, but there's a TON of people I know who HAVE bought a BD product & won't do it again, I can learn from THEIR mistake without making my own. (also I've had 4 or 5 bd boxes & after years of working with them, never did get ANYWHERE near the runnability that I get from an attitude box in about 5 minutes.) If I could get a BD turbo without their electronics... I'd be all over it.

Btw, I know there's a bunch of people out there that ARE happy with their kits, but I go with the numbers & they just have a higher proportion of unhappy customers than the others.

Not what I'm saying at all. This topic has been beat to death, a search will give you a wealth of information. The same people come on every thread and make comments about a kit they know very little about.

You say BD has more problems than anyone else, you do realize that they have sold more kits than all of the manufactures you mentioned combined, right? I would guess that any builder will have more issues with sleds as they produce more sleds. You say "I go with the numbers & they just have a higher proportion of unhappy customers than the others." You say the proportion of unhappy customers is higher, you have no way of knowing that. If you knew the numbers of boondocker kits that were on the snow, you would be blown away. Believe it or not, most turbo owners aren't on snowest...some haven't even heard of snowest.

The Dobeck box has been around forever and is far from advanced but yes it works. They are not without flaws though.

http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=255426

Have you tuned a BD simple tuner turbo box? Even an idiot can figure that thing out and get it right. The N/A box and the Turbo box are not even in the same ballpark. I personally like being able to subtract fuel with out having to take my glove off, roll up my sleeve and shove my hand in the gas tank full of gas. But hey, that's personal preference.

You recommend Quantum Velocity, how many of those kits have you been around?

There are a ton of variables with each kit, people lower gears, change clutching, primary weight, header wrap pipes, remove pipe heat shields, do oil deletes and a host of other things that affect the way a sled runs without having anything to do with a manufacturers design of a kit. I personally have received great customer service from Shain at Twisted, Travis and Garr at OVS, Dale at CPC, Kevin at MMSports and Jerrod and Junior at Boondocker. I also know from being around the shops of all but Twisted, Boondockers place is a zoo compared to the others and using a good dealer like Justin at Code Red or Eric at VOHK is really important when running a BD kit. It was previously posted that you would be better off to run a kit that others in your area are running or a dealer in your area knows something about. That's probably the most sound advice offered in this thread.
 
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I thought of the propane kit but how would I filL up on the trail I want to be able to ride all day long and not have to go back to the trucks to fill up or worry bout running out of fuel


Give Travis or Garr a call, They run all day on the tanks. Very nice looking setup with the custom seat and all.
 
BD has always had a good idea it just never seemed to come together, instead of a fix they would do something different that wasn't any better, this year they kept the same kit and fixed a lot of problems. It seems to be something that works and a pretty cool idea as well. But still testing.

Biggest factor is you need a good dealer or you better know your stuff.

The twisted is the easiest in my opinion to understand and least likely to fail, along with big power, my dealer sales the hell out of bd kits so I'm on my own with twisted and wouldn't have it any other way. But if I had lots of money and not so much mechanical tuning skills I would do what ever my dealer said.
 
CPC

All I can say is when you talk to someone like Dale Cutler and listen to his passion about building motors and turbo's, you realize you have some of the best support out there, even after the sale. I've called Dale 2 months after purchasing stuff from him and it's usually a 30 min conversation on the phone primarily because he cares about our questions, problems, ect and that's what's important. So what I'm trying to say is CPC is the way to go, not knocking the others, but staying with what works is a comforting feeling, especially when there's high $ involved!
 
the Cutler is a little more expensive, but great support, the Attitude seems to perform really well once tuned, but at a much higher cost + $1k over Boonie

Actually, looking on BD's site, apples to aples the cutler race gas (stage II) is cheaper than the BD pump. $4425 without cold air or clutching, compared to $4625 for BD.

Bighoe, I know there are many of the bd kits on the snow, and I'm sure a large percentage of them are happy, but I know as many people with cutler kits as bd kit (I do, personally) and the comment I made stands. Of the guys with BD kits... I don't know anyone who has been trouble free.

Sorry, I spent a lot of time dealing with BD & I HATE the way they do business. They screwed me, and I've seen them do nothing special for anyone else who has had their kit & they've burned a bunch of people I know. With Dale... it seems to me that he treats everyone like they're a friend & he makes things right. (though I have yet to have any issues that required "righting" because he puts out a product THAT WORKS.)

I didn't want to turn this into a "dale is better than rocky" post... but, well... yeah. It doesn't take much. Oddly enough, you burn people & they WILL come on every thread & tell people.


Bitter enough for ya?:focus:
 
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