So... I have to make a mistake MYSELF, to learn from it?? Sorry, I don't think it has to be that way.
I like CPC, but honestly I'm just saying that the ONLY company I hear consistent issues with (people I know & people on here) is BD. I was just going to leave it as it is, but there's a TON of people I know who HAVE bought a BD product & won't do it again, I can learn from THEIR mistake without making my own. (also I've had 4 or 5 bd boxes & after years of working with them, never did get ANYWHERE near the runnability that I get from an attitude box in about 5 minutes.) If I could get a BD turbo without their electronics... I'd be all over it.
Btw, I know there's a bunch of people out there that ARE happy with their kits, but I go with the numbers & they just have a higher proportion of unhappy customers than the others.
Not what I'm saying at all. This topic has been beat to death, a search will give you a wealth of information. The same people come on every thread and make comments about a kit they know very little about.
You say BD has more problems than anyone else, you do realize that they have sold more kits than all of the manufactures you mentioned combined, right? I would guess that any builder will have more issues with sleds as they produce more sleds. You say "I go with the numbers & they just have a higher proportion of unhappy customers than the others." You say the proportion of unhappy customers is higher, you have no way of knowing that. If you knew the numbers of boondocker kits that were on the snow, you would be blown away. Believe it or not, most turbo owners aren't on snowest...some haven't even heard of snowest.
The Dobeck box has been around forever and is far from advanced but yes it works. They are not without flaws though.
http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=255426
Have you tuned a BD simple tuner turbo box? Even an idiot can figure that thing out and get it right. The N/A box and the Turbo box are not even in the same ballpark. I personally like being able to subtract fuel with out having to take my glove off, roll up my sleeve and shove my hand in the gas tank full of gas. But hey, that's personal preference.
You recommend Quantum Velocity, how many of those kits have you been around?
There are a ton of variables with each kit, people lower gears, change clutching, primary weight, header wrap pipes, remove pipe heat shields, do oil deletes and a host of other things that affect the way a sled runs without having anything to do with a manufacturers design of a kit. I personally have received great customer service from Shain at Twisted, Travis and Garr at OVS, Dale at CPC, Kevin at MMSports and Jerrod and Junior at Boondocker. I also know from being around the shops of all but Twisted, Boondockers place is a zoo compared to the others and using a good dealer like Justin at Code Red or Eric at VOHK is really important when running a BD kit. It was previously posted that you would be better off to run a kit that others in your area are running or a dealer in your area knows something about. That's probably the most sound advice offered in this thread.