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Weight Vs. Function?

all depends on where you ride ...we rode with some heavier yamms all done up ..at the end of the day the group was a lot smaller ....no yammis around the doo patch
 
Fact: I'd rather dig out a light slead than blow a nut gasket pulling out a heavy one from a stuck :beer;:beer;

----- Gimpster -----

You guys crack me up. Why is it any harder to dig out a Yamaha then any other sled? Is the snow around a Yamaha heavier then it is around an XP? Here's some basic instructions on how to get a sled unstuck so you don't have to lift it up and out of the snow.

1. Dig around the sled and remove the snow.
2. Dig or walk a little path in front of sled.
3. Lift the tunnel up out of the trench (not the whole sled, just the tunnel and set it left or right on solid ground)
4. Start sled.
5. Give the sled gas slowly until the clutch engages and it starts to roll.
6. Hammer the thottle and ride.
5. If necessary you may need to have a buddy or two pull on the skis just to get you rolling. If you have to pull so hard you pop a nut go back to steps 1 and 2.:D

IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THESE INSTRUCTION PLEASE FIND SOME EXPERIENCED RIDERS TO RIDE WITH AND ASK THEM TO TEACH YOU HOW TO DO IT SO YOU DON'T WASTE ALL YOUR ENERGY DEAD LIFTING SLEDS.

DO NOT TRY TO LIFT THE WHOLE SLED UP. SERIOUS INJURY MAY OCCUR. EVEN THE LIGHTEST SLEDS WEIGH ALMOST 400 PDS.
 
The flatlanders bring alot of them yamis(stock and turbo'd) to ride here in Fernie. Rode with a yami apex alpine front mount from (I think a company from kamloops or around there) last year ***g'n turbo half fell off then 2hours of wrenching wasting a blubird powder day we get going and the friggn thing burns to the ground. :eek:
 
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You guys crack me up. Why is it any harder to dig out a Yamaha then any other sled? Is the snow around a Yamaha heavier then it is around an XP? Here's some basic instructions on how to get a sled unstuck so you don't have to lift it up and out of the snow.

1. Dig around the sled and remove the snow.
2. Dig or walk a little path in front of sled.
3. Lift the tunnel up out of the trench (not the whole sled, just the tunnel and set it left or right on solid ground)
4. Start sled.
5. Give the sled gas slowly until the clutch engages and it starts to roll.
6. Hammer the thottle and ride.
5. If necessary you may need to have a buddy or two pull on the skis just to get you rolling. If you have to pull so hard you pop a nut go back to steps 1 and 2.:D.

To many steps in you process.

Step 1. roll your sled over.
Step 2. Ride away.

Done!
 
Good question Rip,
But I think you answer it yourself when you guys are out filming.

I may not be able to jump my Apex like an XP, Dragon or M but I'll launch 20ft off the lip of a hill where any of the others won't even make it to that top...........even tho it may not be a challenge, it puts a bigger smile on my face than when I was riding a stock sled. :D

:beer;:beer;
 
My Nytro is definately heaver to life and move and drag around the garage than my Rev...thus, I know it will be heavier and harder to drag around when its stuck in snow.
:P
That simple.

But I believe when it comes to the end of the season, I'll have had much more fun and time spent riding than my past 2 strokes.

Oh, and maybe I'll get in better shape...I know, thats no ones goal in snowmobiling, but...I'll try it!

I sure don't miss smelling like 2 smoke anymore either...

Oh, and I really am an advocate of light weight. But I ride and enjoy riding a big fat Yamaha..
 
You guys crack me up. Why is it any harder to dig out a Yamaha then any other sled? Is the snow around a Yamaha heavier then it is around an XP? Here's some basic instructions on how to get a sled unstuck so you don't have to lift it up and out of the snow.

1. Dig around the sled and remove the snow.
2. Dig or walk a little path in front of sled.
3. Lift the tunnel up out of the trench (not the whole sled, just the tunnel and set it left or right on solid ground)
4. Start sled.
5. Give the sled gas slowly until the clutch engages and it starts to roll.
6. Hammer the thottle and ride.
5. If necessary you may need to have a buddy or two pull on the skis just to get you rolling. If you have to pull so hard you pop a nut go back to steps 1 and 2.:D

IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THESE INSTRUCTION PLEASE FIND SOME EXPERIENCED RIDERS TO RIDE WITH AND ASK THEM TO TEACH YOU HOW TO DO IT SO YOU DON'T WASTE ALL YOUR ENERGY DEAD LIFTING SLEDS.

DO NOT TRY TO LIFT THE WHOLE SLED UP. SERIOUS INJURY MAY OCCUR. EVEN THE LIGHTEST SLEDS WEIGH ALMOST 400 PDS.

I'd still rather lift a lighter sled out of the snow than a heavy one. Suppose if I take a heavy sled out into the boonies I'll have to round up someone with experience so they can lift it out for me... save on my personal injury that way.... hehehe

----- Gimpster -----
 
I'll be in the market for a new sled next year and find threads like this very interesting. I still have no idea what I'll buy and love to hear all the brand bashing. The truth is in there somewhere.

4-stroke reliability is interesting but I really need to ride one to see how I feel about the extra weight. We built a house recently and the memory of carrying around 50# boxes of nails will last a life time. One or two extra boxes of nails on a sled is serious weight, any way you look at it.
 
The flatlanders bring alot of them yamis(stock and turbo'd) to ride here in Fernie. Rode with a yami apex alpine front mount from (I think a company from kamloops or around there) last year ***g'n turbo half fell off then 2hours of wrenching wasting a blubird powder day we get going and the friggn thing burns to the ground. :eek:

So try not putting a 2 stroke together properly and see what happens, LOL. I suppose you're gonna tell us that 2 strokes don't break down. I only use one end of my Yami for towing. Then again, maybe my installs are done with a little more care.
 
To many steps in you process.

Step 1. roll your sled over.
Step 2. Ride away.

Done!

I like that method. Only difference is when I'm stuck on a steep, I dig a catch hole below the sled so when it's rolled over, it stops in the catch hole before going all the way down the hill tumbling on it's own

----- Gimpster -----
 
100 lb. stupid hottie or 400 lb fatt azz girl that makes me breakfast and loads my sled for me in the morning. I would be hungry and loading my own chit!
I'm goin light on the sled also, they really seem to do well when the snow gets deep.
 
100 lb. stupid hottie or 400 lb fatt azz girl that makes me breakfast and loads my sled for me in the morning. I would be hungry and loading my own chit!
I'm goin light on the sled also, they really seem to do well when the snow gets deep.

Not to mention that it's hard to load your own sled if you've had to chew your arm off to get away:eek:
 
i changed out my rear skid this year in my sled . it came down to 2 skid choices the first droping 40 pounds and working OK. the second mabey dropping 5 pounds and working awsome . i went with the second one :D
 
So try not putting a 2 stroke together properly and see what happens, LOL. I suppose you're gonna tell us that 2 strokes don't break down. I only use one end of my Yami for towing. Then again, maybe my installs are done with a little more care.

Easy there Sly guy! I've seen many yami T's work good. Its usually only the front mounted turbo's that i notice have all the heat issues/problems etc. If you aint a good mechanic or carry a spare fuel controller,they may not be for you.
 
I think light weight is way over rated. I mean, yes it needs to be light but it also has to work well together. The xp doesn't feel balanced or light to me. Hanldes and rides like a very heavy sled. Just my opinion though

x4
The "package" must must work together. It has to be strong enough to hold up as well. Sure, keep it as light as possible, but not at all costs as weight is not everything!
 
yep, id take the lighter over built, (i cant ride for chit) and usually spend more time diggin than riddin:D:D

Don't worry... in 30+ years, you'll want a lighter sled too :beer;:beer;
Wait, 30 years from now I will be 75... Maybe I will want a lead sled to pull my hot tub around with ;)

----- Gimpster -----
 
I know a guy who is 325 lbs and 6'7" and rides a turbo Apex anywhere he wants, in the tightest tree, himarking and he launches the thing, prolly the only guy who looks normal riding such a big sled!!! Thats like 1000lbs prolly, I know he upgraded all his suspension and shocks.


So it defintley seems not to matter about the weight when you have horsepower to carry you, and oh yeah the skill. So definitley all function to a point.
 
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