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Weight Lifting supplements?

av8er, in other words, keep talkin crap, and minten will come to u and break a board or two in front of your very eyes.

Not really. Cool a board. I was saying that it's cheaper for me to get a personal trainer because I'm really good friends with her.
 
Stay away from it. You don't need it.

When you eat the pizza, eat the box too. You wanna bulk up, eat more.

Supplements are all gimmicks, and at you are you do NOT_ need them. If your coaches are telling you that they're idiots who don't give a damn about you or your future and just want to make themselves look good at your expense.

You wanna bulk up? Eat more an lift harder, its that simple.

You get into supplements now you're setting a VERY BAD precident for yourself for the future, I don't care if they're "legal" or "over the counter" or what.

Between the ages of 16-22 or so your body produces so much testosterone natrually if you take advantage of that with a proper diet and strength training regime you're gonna be bench pressing 4 plates before you know it. Stay the F*CK AWAY from the supplements.

Take it from the man who tips the scales at over 300 and isn't a phat phuk.

Not really. Cool a board. I was saying that it's cheaper for me to get a personal trainer because I'm really good friends with her.

You wanna slip her the Korean noodle, huh?
 
P90x is pretty intense. I tried some new diets at school too. I went one week with out lunch and lost about 20lbs. Both muscle and fat. Then I went and hit the gym hard everyday and gained back about 15 lbs. Checked my body fat and dropped down to about 13% from 15%. Ate a lot of peanut butter and drank a lot of water. Just got to see what works for you. Running 3 or 4 miles a day is a good start.


I call BS on ALL of this.

There is no such thing as a DIET. There are lifestyle changes, but not DIETS.

You have to be a watery goo ball f you can lose 20lbs in a week just by skipping 5 meals. I've seen pictures of you...you are not a watery goo ball.

And you can't drop 2% of body fat in one week. If you weigh 200 pounds, you'd have to BURN 4lbs of FAT.
The people that metabolize THAT much don't have hardly any body fat to begin with...so THEY can't drop that much either.
How are you measuring body fat? With the bathroom scale type (those are NOT accurate)? Skin caliper? Lung displacement (dunk tank test?) A 2% variance is quite common in tests done back to back within minutes of each other.



BTW, on a related note, there is a rule of thumb that's been around for a LONG time.
"You can only burn about 2lbs of body fat a week without buring muscle."





Jacob, I have some advice for you. You have a lot of growing up to do, and even at 15 you are leaving a lot on the table. Believe it or not, you've become the punching bag of Fouled Plug.
Stop posting non-sled related posts and learn how to become a community member on here. Focus your efforts on Tae Kwan Do and your poomses, your schoolwork, sledding skills and your social skills. Stop sticking your neck out so much on here.
 
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I call BS on ALL of this.

There is no such thing as a DIET. There are lifestyle changes, but not DIETS.

You have to be a watery goo ball f you can lose 20lbs in a week just by skipping 5 meals. I've seen pictures of you...you are not a watery goo ball.

And you can't drop 2% of body fat in one week. If you weigh 200 pounds, you'd have to BURN 4lbs of FAT.
The people that metabolize THAT much don't have hardly any body fat to begin with...so THEY can't drop that much either.
How are you measuring body fat? With the bathroom scale type (those are NOT accurate)? Skin caliper? Lung displacement (dunk tank test?) A 2% variance is quite common in tests done back to back within minutes of each other.



BTW, on a related note, there is a rule of thumb that's been around for a LONG time.
"You can only burn about 2lbs of body fat a week without buring muscle."





Jacob, I have some advice for you. You have a lot of growing up to do, and even at 15 you are leaving a lot on the table. Believe it or not, you've become the punching bag of Fouled Plug.
Stop posting non-sled related posts and learn how to become a community member on here. Focus your efforts on Tae Kwan Do and your poomses, your schoolwork, sledding skills and your social skills. Stop sticking your neck out so much on here.
Scott your 100% right on all of this. 2 lbs per week body fat loss is about the most you can do without losing muscle (most cases). Body builders that eat perfectly usually lose .5 to 1% per week, these guys/gals have their metabolisms firing on all cylinders.
 
Scott your 100% right on all of this. 2 lbs per week body fat loss is about the most you can do without losing muscle (most cases). Body builders that eat perfectly usually lose .5 to 1% per week, these guys/gals have their metabolisms firing on all cylinders.

Body builders dropping body fat and eating perfectly DO NOT even belong in the same ballpark let alone sentence.


Scott good advice.
 
BTW, if you think you can lose 20lbs in a week by skipping 5 meals.....

I had a wrestler who had a RAGING metabolism, who was about 5'6" and weighed 240 (yeah...carrying plenty of body fat and body fluid inside).

He JUST got down to 215 by first weigh-in. He skipped 1/2 of his meals for TWO WEEKS.
Just in case you were counting, that's skipping maybe 25 meals for TWO WEEKS. He lost his 20lbs, but he ran 5 miles a day on top of his daily 2 hour intensive workouts, he lived on salad, fig newtons, water and orange juice. He was hungry, dehydrated and ashamed of skipping so many meals. And he wrestled like crap.

You didn't lose 20lbs in a week by skipping lunches.
 
BTW, if you think you can lose 20lbs in a week by skipping 5 meals.....

I had a wrestler who had a RAGING metabolism, who was about 5'6" and weighed 240 (yeah...carrying plenty of body fat and body fluid inside).

He JUST got down to 215 by first weigh-in. He skipped 1/2 of his meals for TWO WEEKS.
Just in case you were counting, that's skipping maybe 25 meals for TWO WEEKS. He lost his 20lbs, but he ran 5 miles a day on top of his daily 2 hour intensive workouts, he lived on salad, fig newtons, water and orange juice. He was hungry, dehydrated and ashamed of skipping so many meals. And he wrestled like crap.

You didn't lose 20lbs in a week by skipping lunches.

Minten's workout advice, and his favorite workout of all time. his partner is one of the guys that he chooses when the cards are played (something he had said in a previous thread that got alot of attention) (minten is the little guy on the left doing the workout. he loves it. alot.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgal68gEPs0
 
Minten's workout advice, and his favorite workout of all time. his partner is one of the guys that he chooses when the cards are played (something he had said in a previous thread that got alot of attention) (minten is the little guy on the left doing the workout. he loves it. alot.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgal68gEPs0

and the girl afterwords is the girl he wanted to take to homecoming. but wanted his friend instead.
 
Please explain?

You don't go from 15 percetn body fat to 2 percent in a healthy way.

I've seen what they do, water and empty food like lettuce to drop fat. then dehydrate yourself to loose that water weight and make the veins pop


Body building like training for a marathon can be great for your body. Showing in comps like running the marathon are havoc on your body.
 
What weight class is your coach wanting you to wrestle at? Is he wanting you to bulk and then cut weight to make weight?

I wrestled for 13 years and now am an assistant coach.
 
Wow, this thread went to hell in a hand basket. As for the original topic, eat a lot of clean food 5-6 times a day. Take a good quality high calorie Protein Powder (Muscle Milk), and lift 4-5 days a week. Lift on a muscle group per day rotation with no cardio except for a good 10 minute warm up and 10 minute cool down.
Monday - 10 minute on bike warm up, legs, slow walk on a tread mill set at 10 degree incline.
Tuesday - 10 minute bike, arms, tread mill cool down 10 degree incline
Wednesday - same warm up and cool down, back
Thursday - off
Friday - Same warm up and cool down, shoulders
Saturday - same warm up and cool down, chest

Eat a good meal with carbs and protein, example being 150gr rice and 150 gr chicken breast before your work outs, have a protein shake after (minimum 45g protein - 2 scoops of powder) and a banana after every work out.

Do not consider Creatine or steroids untill you are at least 23 years old. Your body is still growing and all those things will hurt you in the long run. That being said I do know a lot of people who have used steroids properly to gain muscle mass or cut fat with great success, they have to be used properly and extremly carefully. If you are over 23 years old and already have a strict diet and a good solid work out routine then I would not disagree with the use of steroids as long as they are used properly, safely, and under the supervision of someone who knows what they are doing. Do not take any serious supliments off the advice of someone on the internet.
 
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