Waterboarding?

[wildcard]

So the house and senate have outlawed waterboarding...Great. it was used three times on very high level prisioners. Three! Thats it. Whats t big deal? I think we should be doing much more! Untill every captured troop and contractor is accounted for we should be using every means available. The bad guys don't play "fair" why should we be so restricted?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,330810,00.html

 

[priest lake rmk]

I agree.

 

[ArcticBoy]

How many lives were saved from some of the info obtained I wonder? Bet it was worth it!!!

 

[Mafesto]

Either way, it need not be in the news.

 

[Sturgis Sledder]

Yeah, we shouldn't be so mean to them, I mean after all when they capture our guys all the do is torture and then behead them.

 

[xrated]

Either way, it need not be in the news.

I agree. I'm sure there is stuff going on we don't want or need to know about with this stuff.

Also may sound like a dickhole, but contractors are a bit differnt to me then our boys who get caught.

 

[stripe]

shouldn't be so mean to them

 

[Fosgate]

Contractors are expensive SF troops, and they definatly don't have to deal with a bunch of red tape like the troops do. Friend of mine that was over training Iraqi troops the first year had a mortor attack and had orders not to enguage with recieving direct fire holding weapons etc. There was a grove of trees that had dust kicked up that they knew the rounds were coming from but under the rules of enguagement at the time they could not fire back. Blackwater had guys on the ground in the same area taking fire from the same mortor crew and they called in one of their choppers to mow down the treeline and got'er'done. Security Contractors are not all bad in my eyes. But we should have guys doind the stuff the service contractors are doing. Cheney has got to be rolling in the cash on this deal.

 

[milehighassassin]

It is restricted because of this little piece of "paper" that we call the constitution.

 

[weetee]

It is restricted because of this little piece of "paper" that we call the constitution.

The constitution says we can't waterboard?

 

[Sturgis Sledder]

If hooking one of those ahole's nuts up to a battery saves even one of our soldiers lives, I only have one thing to say: Red is positive and black is negative.

 

[RMK7SledHead]

If hooking one of those ahole's nuts up to a battery saves even one of our soldiers lives, I only have one thing to say: Red is positive and black is negative.

and make sure his nuts are wet!

 

[milehighassassin]

The constitution says we can't waterboard?

You know it doesn't say that specifically but if you translate it over, it would not be allowed.

 

[Dogmeat]

Personally I think they should be allowed to interrogate people by whatever means are necessary to obtain information from them, short of causing death or paralyzation ...

Screwing with somone's mind, which is what my impression of waterboarding is, doesn't put them in any danger of dying, but it'll sure make them think they're about to die.

In which case, if that yields useful information to us, why is this wrong? It emotionally scarred them? Oh wah.

 

[RMK7SledHead]

Personally I think they should be allowed to interrogate people by whatever means are necessary to obtain information from them, short of causing death or paralyzation ...

Screwing with somone's mind, which is what my impression of waterboarding is, doesn't put them in any danger of dying, but it'll sure make them think they're about to die.

In which case, if that yields useful information to us, why is this wrong? It emotionally scarred them? Oh wah.

the only counter-argument I have heard to this is:

do you want the enemy doing the same thing to our troops when captured?


personally, I think they already do much worse to our troops, so to me it's a moot point.

 

[Dogmeat]

the only counter-argument I have heard to this is:

do you want the enemy doing the same thing to our troops when captured?


personally, I think they already do much worse to our troops, so to me it's a moot point.

It's an incredibly moot point. Do you think that when our enemies capture our troops they show any kind of compassion, reserve, ANYTHING at all?

Hell no they don't ...

As far as I can tell people who are POW's of the US never had it so good in their entire lives ...

 

[buck50]

the only counter-argument I have heard to this is:

do you want the enemy doing the same thing to our troops when captured?


personally, I think they already do much worse to our troops, so to me it's a moot point.

very moot point. for a real life account of how prisoners are treated over there, read a book by andy mcnab, called bravo two zero. he was a british SAS that got caputred in the first gulf war. he goes into detail about what happened to him while a prisoner, and let's just say, waterboarding would've been his fun day while there. very good read, and true

 

[Dawson]

Why are we concerned about waterboarding when we allow our police forces to tazer hundreds of people every day?? Isn't that a form of torture? Would our interigators be allowed to tazer prisoners to get information out of them?

 

[Sturgis Sledder]

Why are we concerned about waterboarding when we allow our police forces to tazer hundreds of people every day?? Isn't that a form of torture? Would our interigators be allowed to tazer prisoners to get information out of them?

Tazering people is better than shooting them, how else do you expect the police to subdue the bad guys or people behaving erratically?

 

[buck50]

Tazering people is better than shooting them, how else do you expect the police to subdue the bad guys or people behaving erratically?

i think he was saying that the military should be allowed to taser people as well, not that cops shouldn't