Water to Air intercooler on m1000?

[sledfvr]

I would like to put a water to air on my m1000, but I'm wondering if these sleds have enough power to run the water pump? The guy I bought the sled from had a battery to run the afr gauge. Would it be hard on the stator if I do run one? I have a water/air on my apex and it works great. Any input would be great.

 

[Snowmow]

If you have a updated CCU you should be good on voltage. What is your fuel pump and oil pump being ran off of? With the updated CCU the only thing I ran off of the reverse beeper is the oil pump. The fuel pump and afr gauge have their own circuit. I know I've seen a few water to air kits that have very low voltage draw. It your building your own. I would check out frozenboost.com they have alot of good stuff.

 

[sledfvr]

I used frozenboost on my apex, it is really good stuff for a great price. I'm not sure if the ccu is updated or not. Thanks for the info

 

[Snowmow]

Take a pic of the ccu you have on your sled and I could tell you.

 

[Snowmow]

Ohh, and. Do you know how your fuel pump is powdered?

 

[sledfvr]

fuel pump is wired to accessory, the oil pump is wired to the old fuel pump line.

 

[Snowmow]

Does anything charge the battery being used for the afr gauge. I think I would power a charging wire off that accessory circuit. And use the battery for the afr,fuel pump and the to be water pump.

 

[sledfvr]

It doesn't have a battery in it anymore. It was used to power the afr gauge and then he pulled them out once tuned in and it has egt's now. Is my ccu updated?

 

[Snowmow]

The picture doesn't show up

 

[sledfvr]

can you see it now?

 

[Snowmow]

Yep. That's the good one.

 

[Snowmow]

I can't remember what wire i tied into for the afr and the fuel pump. Hopefully hillclimbpro will tell us here in a minute. I know the oil pump for the turbo was ran off the reverse beeper wires.

 

[Hillclimbpro]

You want to use the big red/black wire for positive and the big black wire for negative coming from CCU for power.

 

[rusty rider]

I would like to put a water to air on my m1000, but I'm wondering if these sleds have enough power to run the water pump? The guy I bought the sled from had a battery to run the afr gauge. Would it be hard on the stator if I do run one? I have a water/air on my apex and it works great. Any input would be great.

I pm'ed my # to you, give me a call if you want.

 

[rusty rider]

http://www.go2marine.com/product/15...mp-magnetic-drive-hot-water-59510-series.html

Here is the pump I use.

 

[Arctic Thunder]

I guess I have to ask. Why?

Why do you want to run a water/air exchanger or a intercooler on a turbo M1000?

In the fourstroke world it is a must. But on my TM1000 I don't feel a cooler or intercooler would make a hill of beans of difference in performance (other than a negative due to lag caused by the increased volume of the charge chamber). This is at 11lbs of boost. I suppose if you plan to run 18lbs, and pull 2500' long chutes the charge temps will play a larger roll. But at 11lbs I haven't found a hill long enough to have the charge temps cause a problem.

IMO


Thunder

 

[smokindave]

I guess I have to ask. Why?

Why do you want to run a water/air exchanger or a intercooler on a turbo M1000?

In the fourstroke world it is a must. But on my TM1000 I don't feel a cooler or intercooler would make a hill of beans of difference in performance (other than a negative due to lag caused by the increased volume of the charge chamber). This is at 11lbs of boost. I suppose if you plan to run 18lbs, and pull 2500' long chutes the charge temps will play a larger roll. But at 11lbs I haven't found a hill long enough to have the charge temps cause a problem.

IMO


Thunder

More horsepower at lower boost on lower octane fuel.
I wanna try one on one of my M1000's...

 

[Turbo11T]

More horsepower at lower boost on lower octane fuel.
I wanna try one on one of my M1000's...

The idea behind water to air is simple. Consistency, You can keep the water one temp with a properly sized and built system. If you can keep the cooled charge temps within a small operating range no matter the conditions it is going to always run the same. With air to air you have a lot of factors that stack up against you. Ground speed and heat soak being the major two. At one point and time you may be pulling a big hill and moving twice as much air through the intercooler as you would if you in 5 foot of fresh powder just creeping along.

Also it is no secret that water to air with an ice box. Much like a snowmobile with a dedicated loop for the intercooler can produce super high efficiencies for the intercooler sometimes as high as 95%.

The only downfall of a water to air intercooler is added weight and voltage needed to run the pump. If someone was creative they could run a mechanical pump off the oil pump side of the water pump shaft very easily.

 

[sledfvr]

I guess I have to ask. Why?

Why do you want to run a water/air exchanger or a intercooler on a turbo M1000?

In the fourstroke world it is a must. But on my TM1000 I don't feel a cooler or intercooler would make a hill of beans of difference in performance (other than a negative due to lag caused by the increased volume of the charge chamber). This is at 11lbs of boost. I suppose if you plan to run 18lbs, and pull 2500' long chutes the charge temps will play a larger roll. But at 11lbs I haven't found a hill long enough to have the charge temps cause a problem.

IMO


Thunder

More power at less boost, colder intake temps mean less chance of detonation. Also, a more consistent intake temp for less messing with tuning.

 

[kingkat1150]

WTA intercooler

I have the pumps already. Putting one on a 2013 m8 in a week or so.