UNBELIEVABLE!!!!

[PJ-Hunter]

lets say i was out near an MX park and decided to have a picnic next to the end of a 200' landing, lets say the guy balls it up on the landing and his bike smashed my face in....whos fault would that be? mine

and yes, that is 100% the exact same senerio

It is, it really happened. You should see his face.

True, but if folks never won a lawsuit because of their own stupidity, McDonalds wouldn't have to put a "Careful, contents are hot!" disclaimer on their coffee lids.

 

[Leaf27]

It's all fine for us to judge not knowing all the fact's, lets just hope the courts dont do the same. Another point, the Canadian courts are different than our friends to the south. You cant go and sue Mcdonalds in Canada because you spilled hot coffee on yourself.

I am not saying it is right or wrong. I am not buying the tough attitudes that most on here are giving out, bunch of hypocrits. Walk in his shoes and you might not be so black and white about this.

 

[ruffryder]

It's all fine for us to judge not knowing all the fact's, lets just hope the courts dont do the same. Another point, the Canadian courts are different than our friends to the south. You cant go and sue Mcdonalds in Canada because you spilled hot coffee on yourself.

What if the coffee was so hot that it melted the cup?

 

[James T Kirk]

Responsibility for what? You dont know anything about his circumstances nor do I.. BUT. Maybe he was out riding Revy for the day with his son and came across this event, stopped for lunch to watch and these guys burried him and his son. Who knows... but it is a bit disturbing that peeps on this site can so quickly judge a person that they do not know and who has had serious life changing injuries based off of a couple paragraph news article. Brutal comes to mind

Responsibility for what you ask?? Responsibility for having the proper education to travel in avalanche terrain during periods of Considerable danger. Responsibility to ensure that his son had training as well. Responsibility to park in a SENSIBLE place, which everyone failed to do. Responsibility to follow backcountry travel protocol, they were sitting in the freakin runout, which was stupid even if no one was climbing the hill.

So what if he was out riding with his kid and came accross it, it is still his RESPONSIBILITY to know BASIC avalanche/travel protocol if he is going to go in the mountains, especially with his son. You dont have to have mountain guide level training to avoid a situation like the one at Turbo, just a bit of common sense.

If he is going to sue everyone for his own mistakes and lack of responsibility he gets no sympathy from me.

 

[Leaf27]

Well, if he wins, this will surely change the sport we all know. For the better, maybe! For the worse, maybe!

Just hate it when people judge without knowing the facts.

 

[clarkwinsor]

hes sueing a dead guys family, thats all the facts i need to know. total loser ...... even if i put myself in his shoes, theres still no way i would sue.....i mean hey, he already won in some respect, hes alive and the other guy isnt....RIP

 

[sledheadjake]

Sorry but no sympathy from me to this retard,when you are out sledding your safety is your own responsibility no one elses, if I remember right the danger of extreme avalanche danger was even posted on the trail in that day, what a douche!

 

[jsandgren10]

I was under the impression that the actual event was already over and and when they went and caused the avalanche it was at a different location.

 

[Leaf27]

hes sueing a dead guys family, thats all the facts i need to know.

Happens all the time. Lets say, a guy loses control of his vehicle(falls asleep, road conditions) whatever, piles into another motorist. He dies, guess what the people that might of survived that were in the other car sue, sue, sue. Does that make them evil bastards that should be stoned to death?

 

[James T Kirk]

Happens all the time. Lets say, a guy loses control of his vehicle(falls asleep, road conditions) whatever, piles into another motorist. He dies, guess what the people that might of survived that were in the other car sue, sue, sue. Does that make them evil bastards that should be stoned to death?

Your comparison would only be accurate if the guy suing was siting in the middle of the road having lunch when he was hit by the car. Suing this guys family because the "victim" was sitting in an obvious avalanche path when the slide was triggered is F%$^ing ridiculous.

How anyone would even take this case is beyond me. Whats the difference between a lawyer and a flounder? One of thems a scum sucking bottom dweller and the other ones a fish.

 

[hatchers]

Happens all the time. Lets say, a guy loses control of his vehicle(falls asleep, road conditions) whatever, piles into another motorist. He dies, guess what the people that might of survived that were in the other car sue, sue, sue. Does that make them evil bastards that should be stoned to death?

wow, im not sure how to repond...this video below should do just fine

 

[hivoltagesledhead]

Obviously his balls are in tact....he is going to need them to survive all of the bull**** that will follow.

 

[polaris dude]

Happens all the time. Lets say, a guy loses control of his vehicle(falls asleep, road conditions) whatever, piles into another motorist. He dies, guess what the people that might of survived that were in the other car sue, sue, sue. Does that make them evil bastards that should be stoned to death?

That is not even a close comparison. Are you related to the person suing or something?

 

[Mafesto]

I've read enough & have made my decision.

This sack hair that is suing is nothing more than an opportunist.
Case dismissed.

Next?

 

[tranquillicer]

Liability

now i've never actually read my trail pass when in revy, but doesn't it pretty much say procede at your own risk and that the club can not be found at fault for any injury or damage?

Next time you go down hill skiing read the back of your lift pass...people sue ski resorts for negligence all the time and win and most are settled out of court.
People want the freedom to make decisions on their own and don't want outside interference etc.,you hear this every day in one form the other...then the next thing you hear is crap like this where some one claims some one else is responsible for their own ignorance. Would this same person be sueing if it were another day on a different mountain and he was simply watching some one or a group of some ones having a go at a slope? Stare down the barrel of a loaded gun and sooner or later your gonna have a problem.
I'm certainly not buying into the concept of a law suite for something like this. Why would any club want to create an environment for sledders if this is the result of all their work?

 

[stalefish_132]

i still have my trail pass from the big iron last year, clearly says you ride at your own risk. buddy cant blame anyone but himself for going, theres more of a danger risk driving to revy then riding. you cant fix stupid.

 

[TIM]

To play devils advocate on the revy lawsuit. I fully understand when you go into the mountains there are dangers, and people should be responsible for there own actions. So with that said, shouldn't the people that start slides take some responsibilty for what they caused. Slides just don't happen. the trigger mechanism had to be set off. even in natural slides, the trigger gets set off. yes it sucks the person who set the slide off is dead. It is just something to think about. If some responsibilty is put on the person who caused it, maybe others will think more. myself included, i have cut quite a few in my life. But i don't know if an estate should be sued.

 

[hattan]

There are a few key points here.

1. The trail pass. Did it say all that it needed to? If it was just wrote up with the local club then my guess is no. If it was looked at by an attorny then the chance goes up that it had everything written that it should have.

2. He wasn't climbing the hill. Somebody else was and he was a spectator. He didn't go to the mountain to risk his life, he went to watch others risk there lives.

3. The club and everybody is going to have to prove that the mountain was safe that day. You can never prove that it was going to slide or not slide.

Is it stupid that he is sueing over this? Of course it is but people sue over stupid stuff all the time and win. It will come down to the judge that they have for the lawsuit and what his beliefs are is whats going to win it or lose it for Revy.

My guess is it will be settled outside of court for an undisclosed amount of money. Sad day yes, but I hope we can use this to teach sledders that they should be responsible for themselves. Teach sledders that they should wear beacons and take avy courses. Use this as a positive instead of bitching about the guy sueing. I have no control over who is going to win or lose and niether do you. I am going to take that weekend as a learning experience and gain on it. Will you?

 

[James T Kirk]

There are a few key points here.

1. The trail pass. Did it say all that it needed to? If it was just wrote up with the local club then my guess is no. If it was looked at by an attorny then the chance goes up that it had everything written that it should have.

2. He wasn't climbing the hill. Somebody else was and he was a spectator. He didn't go to the mountain to risk his life, he went to watch others risk there lives.

3. The club and everybody is going to have to prove that the mountain was safe that day. You can never prove that it was going to slide or not slide.

Is it stupid that he is sueing over this? Of course it is but people sue over stupid stuff all the time and win. It will come down to the judge that they have for the lawsuit and what his beliefs are is whats going to win it or lose it for Revy.

My guess is it will be settled outside of court for an undisclosed amount of money. Sad day yes, but I hope we can use this to teach sledders that they should be responsible for themselves. Teach sledders that they should wear beacons and take avy courses. Use this as a positive instead of bitching about the guy sueing. I have no control over who is going to win or lose and niether do you. I am going to take that weekend as a learning experience and gain on it. Will you?

Yea, hopefully you will learn that sitting in the runout of a huge slidepath makes you as much at fault as anyone who was climbing it, maybe more so. You dont sit on the landing hill at a ski jumping competition and hope no one hits you.

 

[94fordguy]

This is total B.S.

Take responsibility for your own actions and man-up when you make bad decisions....

I don't see how the R.S.C or S.R.S. can possibly be found liable anyway, the trail pass CLEARLY releases them from any and all liability.

The disclaimer from the Trail Pass you purchase at the trail head any day of the week:


S.R.S. - Snowmobile Revelstoke Society
RSC - Revelstoke Snowmobile Club
B.C.S.F. - British Columbia Snowmobile Federation

By accepting this Snowmobile Trail Pass, I agree to save harmless and keep indemnified the Province of BC any landowner from which the S.R.S.'s & RSC's trail operates and the RSC and S.R.S., it's members, directors, officers, employees, and their respective agents, officials, servants, and representatives from and against all claims, actions, costs and expenses and demands in respect to death, injury, loss or damage to my person or property or to the person or property of any driver or passenger operating the aforementioned permitted snowmobile, however caused, arising out of or in connection with the use of the Revelstoke Trail System, notwithstanding that the same may have been contributed to or occasioned by the negligence of said bodies, or any of them, their agents, officials, servants or representatives. It is further understood and agreed that this agreement is binding upon myself, my heirs, executors, administrators and assigns.

I hereby expressly waive any and all claims I may have and hereby expressly release from liability the Province of BC, the B.C.S.F., RSC, and S.R.S., their members, their employees, agents, representatives and contractors for any loss or damage to property or personal injury, including death, which I may suffer or be subjected to as a result of my participation in activities on Province of BC, B.C.S.F., pr S.R.S. trails or property. Arising out of any cause whatsoever, including without limitation, the negligence of the Province of BC or B.C.S.F., RSC, or S.R.S. or any of said members, employees, agents, representatives or contractors.

I am aware that snowmobiling presents certain dangers and I accept full responsibility for the risks inherent in such an endeavor. Such Dangers include but are not restricted to traveling in to mountainous or forested terrain which in their natural state present many obstacles and hazards.