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the reality of the new xp like it or not

M1000's are blowing up on the second ride? :rolleyes: I haven't had to do any shaft replacing 30 miles away from the truck over six knarly hill climbs...

I dont want to get into a pissing match with you, leys just get that clear. Maybe you have had good luck with your 1000 and im happy if you did:) Two friends got 1000 this year, one blew up on the second ride the other has been chopperd out twice. Im sure there is a bunch that work good like the xps.
 
Are you kidding, Dragon clutching issues? That's the pot calling the kettle black. Also, I have yet to hear about a single 08 800 crank issue.

I heard the Dragon is the most perfect sled on the planet...well except for the migraine of owning one!!!! and having to read posts like this guys

Question D8 fuel injection and running issues.
Ok Can someone tell me if the fuel injection on the new d800 has a closed loop system and what the parameter are that run it?

I did a lot of analysis this Saturday based on everything everyone is saying about fixing the mid range miss and this is what I found and why I am asking the question.

The sled run fine if my throttle is near wide open it will never stumble, hard to keep it there all the time.

I ran it down a wide somewhat straight trail and found that if I am running near 1/2 throttle and between 7100 and 7500 it will not run right, period, one cylinder seems to stop running. Once I got it in this zone the rpms drop to 6300 +or - . I squeezed the fun flipper to the bars while it's was running flat and it stayed flat, rpm's read 6250 on the nose with no fluctuation, which I held for 10 seconds to see if I can get the check light to come on, and it sounds like it running on one cylinder. Pull over check plugs; clutch side looks perfect, the mag side is all wet and oily. Thought maybe the problem is a bad plug, so I changed the plug and nothing changed and I can repeat the problem all day long. So sometimes I notice this poor running and sometime I don't because I don't alway ride in condition that I have this combination of rpm's and thottle position.

So... here is what I don't know. Is the fuel injection running in a closed loop at this point like most car system and what sensor would it be running off of or is it running strictly off a map based on temp, alt and throttle position?

Why is one plug wet? Can the system shut down the coil to one cylinder or does it only have a single shared coil like I believe it does. If it can't shut down one cylinder then it must be under fueling or over fueling one cylinder to create this problem. If that is the case is there a failsafe in the system to create this because I would think that under all normal condition the brain would be sending the same signal to both cylinders at the same time.

If there is a fail safe to crate this condition why does my motor think it has this condtion to create this? If there isn't a failsafe then do I have a corrupt map or if not then why isn't everyone experiencing this issue? From what I am reading and being told it is only a handful of sleds with this problem.

Can anyone else that is having this mid range missing repeat what I have found by trying to cruse between and 7100 and 7500 rpm?(around 1/2 throttle)

The dealer has checked all sensors and setting and can not find a problem and I’m getting a little short on temper waiting for Polaris to fix this there has to be an answer in here someplace that addresses these running issues. Maybe they need to give me a new Brain because mine is tired.
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Im sure the XP's are great and with their high power and light weight they are hard to beat stock for stock. But not everyone wants to be wrenching on a brand new $12K+ sled just to get it to work right. And its not only XPs from Doo that are having problems. 2 Skandic SWT's (one 2007, one 2008) blew up close by a couple days ago. And when I say blew up I dont mean they fried the engine. They literally exploded, catching one guy on fire resulting in 3rd degree burns. Hopefully Doo gets sued for everything so they realize safety items need to be recalled immediatly and not after someone gets killed.

Ive only had to change plugs on my Cat in 3500miles.
 
I am a use and abuse type of rider.
The chasis is just not strong enough for me. i want to get out before i break it. I am a bigger guy and i tend to break things anyway. Just to fragile for my liking. Nothing wrong with the sled, just not a good fit.

tim
 
I bought an M7 and turboed it for $9200 and not only does it get better fuel mileage than the xp, it makes em look stupid at 2lbs of boost.

Thats reality :) Pretty sad huh? and I dont wrench .25% of what BRP riders do nor do I complain. 20k? I think not, I have yet to find a sled that will match it dollar for dollar. And its just a 700 :rolleyes: and an 05', and im still on the same belt at 230hp at elevation 400 miles later........

And remember, were not talking stock for stock, your talking dollar for dollar, so dont spew your stock vs mod bullcrap with me :) the way it looks, even with buying race fuel my sled is cheaper to run than the new 800xp

ouch.......:eek:


230HP????? i can't see it man & if you have 400miles on ur belt.........THAT'S AWSUM!!!!!
 
Here's one for you non-Doo riders............I just Grenaded my second belt on my XP. This one had 120 miles on it. I have enough "dog" hair inside my engine compartment to knit a sweater. Guess what? I could care less! This sled is a ripper! A belt ripper, sure. But get it in the pow and enjoy. I'm going to buy 2 of the new belts tomorrow;) Put that in your pipe and smoke it:D
 
WOW M7 with 2lbs boost running 230 hp at elevation . NO belts (not even the free ones) and gets like 200-300 miles on a tank of fuel . Was that Nate or Jesus
 
Hey Nate. Why don't you and slick hook up for a jog or something. Maybe a Latte? Soak in the tub?.........................................take it easy, I'm only goofing. And yes I guess i'm an idiot because my sled blew a belt. Thanks for enlightening me Slick;)
 
Tim, you bring up a good point. What happens 2 years down the road after I hit the pinecone in the trail and my XP has no resale or trade value because it is broken in half? Thats why I shyed away from the XP. I have no plans of riding a 3 year old sled the way technology is changing so rapidily, and I dont want to get abused like I did with my 900 RMK. That still hurts
 
Hey Nate. Why don't you and slick hook up for a jog or something. Maybe a Latte? Soak in the tub?.........................................take it easy, I'm only goofing. And yes I guess i'm an idiot because my sled blew a belt. Thanks for enlightening me Slick;)

Your welcome. Hey don't be embarrassed, we all can learn !
 
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