And this!
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And this!
After putting quite a few miles on the Axys my opinion of its trail manners has changed. You just have to get used to how it responds and not try to over ride it. It is easier to ride on the trail, for me, than the pro was, you just have to spend some time on it and get a feel for where you need to have your weight to make it corner.
I rode with a 174 T3 yesterday in bottomless pow, it will out climb my 155 2.6 in those conditions
I rode with a 174 T3 yesterday in bottomless pow, it will out climb my 155 2.6 in those conditions
The black spindle is on my sled, pissed me off because it wasn't a very hard hit and they want $200 for a new one, I will fix this one. The rails were on my buddies sled and he hit hard on a climb with a step-up. I think the doo rails are weak, I have rail reinforcements on my 13 and 16 XMs.
one thing to take to this is the poo dealers will void the warranty with the pipe set.
Imagine what that 660 would do to a T3What I know about the 174 T3 is that it does get stuck, and when it is stuck it is more stuck than most. It is definitely hindered by its wide running boards.
The Poo motor has finally caught up IMO. Much smoother and more powerful than before. Easily the equal of the other two. What the Poo has the other do not is an incredible mountain chassis. It gets and stays on the snow better, noticeably better IMO.
They are all great anymore. I do think Poo is the clear leader though.
The Poo motor has finally caught up IMO. Much smoother and more powerful than before. Easily the equal of the other two. What the Poo has the other do not is an incredible mountain chassis. It gets and stays on the snow better, noticeably better IMO.
They are all great anymore. I do think Poo is the clear leader though.
Rode with a T3 174 and 163 yesterday in the deepest powder we have had in 5 years. Both T3's were stock with the exception of a can on each of them. I have an Axys 163 2.6 with the SLP pipe and clutching. We traded high marks all day long, with the T3 174 getting 75% of them. Usually there was only about a sled length between the 174 and my Axys marks, so it was close all day long. I don't remember the T3 163 ever out climbing me, but again it was only a sled length or so difference. Based on what I saw yesterday I would rate my Axys half way between the T3 174 and T3 163 in a deep powder climb.
The T3 owner and several of the other riders (all riding Doo's except for me and my son) commented on how impressive the Axys was. I thought it was interesting that the T3 owner also said if he were buying again today he was buy a 163 T3 because he said that in a steep climb when your start to lose it and trenching down that the 174 was a "female dog" (keeping it family friendly) to turn out with and had got him seriously stuck in some really ugly places.
I am very impressed with the performance of the series 6 2.6" track. I was having some buyers remorse thinking I should have ordered the 3" track, but after yesterday I'm totally satisfied with the 2.6".
The T3 owner and several of the other riders (all riding Doo's except for me and my son) commented on how impressive the Axys was. I thought it was interesting that the T3 owner also said if he were buying again today he was buy a 163 T3 because he said that in a steep climb when your start to lose it and trenching down that the 174 was a "female dog" (keeping it family friendly) to turn out with and had got him seriously stuck in some really ugly places.
I am very impressed with the performance of the series 6 2.6" track. I was having some buyers remorse thinking I should have ordered the 3" track, but after yesterday I'm totally satisfied with the 2.6".
My son and I (he's 12) took an Axys 163 out. 2.6" track and a Quick Drive.
Had bumper deep powder on the trail and off trail. We logged 56 miles on it that day.
In the deep, it was VERY VERY responsive to body language. Didn't take much effort at all to put it where I wanted. (I'm only 5'8" and 150lbs without gear)
Trail manners were better than my 13 Pro (with 156 X3 and Elka Stage 5 shocks).
It was great.
So as for that ride, I'll take back my statements from last January about it not being trail friendly.
Had bumper deep powder on the trail and off trail. We logged 56 miles on it that day.
In the deep, it was VERY VERY responsive to body language. Didn't take much effort at all to put it where I wanted. (I'm only 5'8" and 150lbs without gear)
Trail manners were better than my 13 Pro (with 156 X3 and Elka Stage 5 shocks).
It was great.
So as for that ride, I'll take back my statements from last January about it not being trail friendly.
The t3 174 does take some real estate to turn out. This is where Polaris has one won. They are making a shorter sled go just as far with a 15 inch track.
It started with the 16 inch track. Then they had to compensate with 36, t-motion, and flex edge track trying to make them sidehill. It makes them fatter and more squirrely. There is a reason you don't want wide boards but you can't convince them just like you couldn't convince them you had more leverage and control keeping hands on handlebars and not mountain bars. Then you get what I call the rider forward twitch in the harder snow. Skidoo has a good sled but imo they could have an awesome sled if they ditch the 16 inch track and start over. I'm glad Polaris is going the direction they did and not go 174.
It started with the 16 inch track. Then they had to compensate with 36, t-motion, and flex edge track trying to make them sidehill. It makes them fatter and more squirrely. There is a reason you don't want wide boards but you can't convince them just like you couldn't convince them you had more leverage and control keeping hands on handlebars and not mountain bars. Then you get what I call the rider forward twitch in the harder snow. Skidoo has a good sled but imo they could have an awesome sled if they ditch the 16 inch track and start over. I'm glad Polaris is going the direction they did and not go 174.
Would you believe that I rode my 163 x 2.6 side by side with my friends 163 x 3 AXYS and the first couple of rides, his seemed to have more control through rough sidehills and have more traction but both sleds trenched terribly and were out of control climbing. Now that I have clutched, and geared mine, and made some more suspension adjustments, mine feels to have the edge over his. It really should not out-do the 3".
My point is if you are impressed with the stock set-up, you will love it set up properly. Polaris leaves a lot on the table for set-up.
What'd you do for set up? I haven't messed with it but love the sled the way that it came out of the box
I have no doubt. Set up is absolutely key. Most dealers and riders have no idea how much difference it makes. It's always been that way...
I ride the axys 163 3'' and ride with my cousin who's 35# less with all our riding gear on he has a 163 t3 we are mark for mark any hill any snow hard pack to 3' fresh I'm happy with how even it is my next goal is adding some stuff to try and beat the 174 t3 that's been clutched and geared properly but I gotta figure out this trenching problem that the new polaris series 7 track has unlike the skidoo 174
There is a great deal of adjustabliity to be found in shock set-up with spring pressure and clickers.
Some shocks (not OEM shocks) that allow both slow and high speed dampening AND rebound in addition to the shock preload. It's a combination of all. Many people push their set-ups toward better trail and higher speed performance for pounding through stuff. It takes time to dial in combinations that improve slow speed or soft snow performance vs set-up snow or "trail" performance...or even spring snow.
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Ya I deffenatly agree with the fist post , I only running a 13 pro with a 2.6 track .
And haven't seen any t3 163 doos go where I go
I out climb them in the deep ..
And haven't seen any t3 163 doos go where I go
I out climb them in the deep ..
